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    Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

    There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:


    She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

    She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

    This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



    To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

    I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

    Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.
     
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    Lapaz said:
    Since he believes that cognitive tests should be required, he should lead the way by providing his. He won't even provide his health information, so I assume that there is bad information in it. Has he ever released a tax return?
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    no he needs a real test by a real doctor. not the quack he uses.
     
    Checking in from New Zealand…it appears our media is obsessed with this election. Listening to local talk radio this afternoon while I was in Christchurch (largest city on the South Island) and I was floored by the number of callers that were supporting the Republican nominee. On most other subjects, the callers are usually more supportive of our opposition parties (Labour, Green, Māori). This is really a paradox as our current government coalition (National, ACT, and NZ First) which although considered here to be conservative would actually be left-leaning by US standards.
    I’m sick to death of hearing about the election so I don’t know how you guys deal with the incessant, in-your-face coverage?!?
     
    KiwiSaint said:
    Checking in from New Zealand…it appears our media is obsessed with this election. Listening to local talk radio this afternoon while I was in Christchurch (largest city on the South Island) and I was floored by the number of callers that were supporting the Republican nominee. On most other subjects, the callers are usually more supportive of our opposition parties (Labour, Green, Māori). This is really a paradox as our current government coalition (National, ACT, and NZ First) which although considered here to be conservative would actually be left-leaning by US standards.
    I’m sick to death of hearing about the election so I don’t know how you guys deal with the incessant, in-your-face coverage?!?
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    Lately, I don't watch cable TV at all other than sports, so I don't have to deal with all of the election coverage. Just watch shows and movies on my streaming services.

    That said, I'll probably be watching on election day.
     
    Most western Europeans – and even many who vote for far-right parties – would like Kamala Harris to win the US presidential election, polling suggests, but fewer are confident that she will and most expect violence if Donald Trump is not elected.

    The YouGov Eurotrack survey of voters in the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden and Denmark found that the Democratic vice-president was the preferred winner in every country , with sizeable majorities in favour of Harris in all except Italy.

    Denmark’s voters were the most eager to see Harris in the White House at 81%, followed by 71% in Germany, 65% in Spain, 62% in France and 61% in the UK; the 46% of Italians who shared the same view was still almost double the percentage of those who instead opted for Trump.

    Unsurprisingly, support for the Democratic candidate was strongest among Europe’s left-leaning and centrist voters, reaching 80% to 90% among backers of parties such as the Social Democrats and the Greens in Germany, Sumar in Spain, Emmanuel Macron in France, the Social Democrats in Sweden, and the Liberal Democrats in the UK.


    However, those who recently cast their votes for traditional centre-right parties also preferred Harris over Trump, by often significant margins: 89% of Venstre voters in Denmark, 78% of Christian Democrat (CDU/CSU) voters in Germany, 66% of People party voters in Spain and 58% of Conservative party voters in Britain.

    And even among western Europeans who recently voted for far-right, nationalist and populist parties, sizeable numbers of respondents in all seven countries said they would rather see Harris elected president than her Republican rival.

    Trump was the favoured candidate of far-right voters in Spain, the UK, Germany and Italy, with 54% of Vox voters (against 23% who preferred Harris), 51% (27%) of Reform UK voters, 50% (36%) of Alternative for Germany voters in Germany and 44% (32%) of Brothers of Italy voters saying they wanted the former president to secure a second term.

    But among far-right Sweden Democrat voters, 49% said they would prefer Harris in the White House against 31% who favoured Trump, while 46% who voted for Marine Le Pen in the second round of France’s 2022 presidential election said they would rather the US Democratic party candidate won, against 31% who preferred Trump.……

    www.theguardian.com

    European voters – even some on far-right – want Harris victory, poll finds

    YouGov survey suggests fewer are confident that Harris will win and most expect violence if Trump is not elected
    www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
     
    MT15 said:
    More projection. Trump could be used as a study case for psychiatric classes for years.

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    Im convinced that he is a "Manchurian candidate". They rely on his "celebrity" to draw in the voters. To watch/listen to the folks that platform him, to nod in agreement at some of the most unbelievable lies, they have sold their morality for one shot at being part of the "power/policy structure" of the US. They want to have a seat at the table and the only way to do so is to platform this guy, get in his good graces, and do his bidding.

    BUT the Mad King doesnt even see that HE is the one being manipulated thru adulation and admiration. The con man is actually being conned.

    Fascinating.
     
    Not about the election exactly but the jobs number is brutal but there is nuance there

    Both dude will try to spin this
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — America’s employers added just 12,000 jobs in October, a total that economists say was held down by the effects of strikes and hurricanes that left many workers temporarily off payrolls.

    The report provided a somewhat blurry view of the job market at the end of a presidential race that has pivoted heavily on voters’ feelings about the economy.

    Last month’s hiring gain was down significantly from the 223,000 jobs that were added in September. But economists have estimated that Hurricanes Helene and Milton, combined with strikes at Boeing and elsewhere, had the effect of pushing down net job growth by tens of thousands of jobs in October.

    Friday’s report from the Labor Department also showed that the unemployment rate remained at 4.1% last month. The low jobless rate suggests that the labor market is still fundamentally healthy, if not as robust as it was early this year.

    Combined with an inflation rate that has tumbled from its 2022 peak to near pre-pandemic levels, the overall economy appears to be on solid footing on the eve of Election Day……..


    apnews.com

    US employers added just 12,000 jobs last month as hurricanes and strikes sharply reduce payrolls

    America’s employers added just 12,000 jobs in October, a total that economists say was held down by the effects of strikes and hurricanes that left many workers temporarily off payrolls.
    apnews.com apnews.com
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Most western Europeans – and even many who vote for far-right parties – would like Kamala Harris to win the US presidential election, polling suggests, but fewer are confident that she will and most expect violence if Donald Trump is not elected.

    The YouGov Eurotrack survey of voters in the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden and Denmark found that the Democratic vice-president was the preferred winner in every country , with sizeable majorities in favour of Harris in all except Italy.

    Denmark’s voters were the most eager to see Harris in the White House at 81%, followed by 71% in Germany, 65% in Spain, 62% in France and 61% in the UK; the 46% of Italians who shared the same view was still almost double the percentage of those who instead opted for Trump.

    Unsurprisingly, support for the Democratic candidate was strongest among Europe’s left-leaning and centrist voters, reaching 80% to 90% among backers of parties such as the Social Democrats and the Greens in Germany, Sumar in Spain, Emmanuel Macron in France, the Social Democrats in Sweden, and the Liberal Democrats in the UK.


    However, those who recently cast their votes for traditional centre-right parties also preferred Harris over Trump, by often significant margins: 89% of Venstre voters in Denmark, 78% of Christian Democrat (CDU/CSU) voters in Germany, 66% of People party voters in Spain and 58% of Conservative party voters in Britain.

    And even among western Europeans who recently voted for far-right, nationalist and populist parties, sizeable numbers of respondents in all seven countries said they would rather see Harris elected president than her Republican rival.

    Trump was the favoured candidate of far-right voters in Spain, the UK, Germany and Italy, with 54% of Vox voters (against 23% who preferred Harris), 51% (27%) of Reform UK voters, 50% (36%) of Alternative for Germany voters in Germany and 44% (32%) of Brothers of Italy voters saying they wanted the former president to secure a second term.

    But among far-right Sweden Democrat voters, 49% said they would prefer Harris in the White House against 31% who favoured Trump, while 46% who voted for Marine Le Pen in the second round of France’s 2022 presidential election said they would rather the US Democratic party candidate won, against 31% who preferred Trump.……

    www.theguardian.com

    European voters – even some on far-right – want Harris victory, poll finds

    YouGov survey suggests fewer are confident that Harris will win and most expect violence if Trump is not elected
    www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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    Europeans are better at Democracy than we are. They also know that Trump is anti-NATO, and will weaken it. I bet if a similar poll was conducted in Russia, Trump would win easily. Probably China too. I bet if we polled Ukraine, Harris would get close to 100% of the vote.
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Not about the election exactly but the jobs number is brutal but there is nuance there

    Both dude will try to spin this
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — America’s employers added just 12,000 jobs in October, a total that economists say was held down by the effects of strikes and hurricanes that left many workers temporarily off payrolls.

    The report provided a somewhat blurry view of the job market at the end of a presidential race that has pivoted heavily on voters’ feelings about the economy.

    Last month’s hiring gain was down significantly from the 223,000 jobs that were added in September. But economists have estimated that Hurricanes Helene and Milton, combined with strikes at Boeing and elsewhere, had the effect of pushing down net job growth by tens of thousands of jobs in October.

    Friday’s report from the Labor Department also showed that the unemployment rate remained at 4.1% last month. The low jobless rate suggests that the labor market is still fundamentally healthy, if not as robust as it was early this year.

    Combined with an inflation rate that has tumbled from its 2022 peak to near pre-pandemic levels, the overall economy appears to be on solid footing on the eve of Election Day……..


    apnews.com

    US employers added just 12,000 jobs last month as hurricanes and strikes sharply reduce payrolls

    America’s employers added just 12,000 jobs in October, a total that economists say was held down by the effects of strikes and hurricanes that left many workers temporarily off payrolls.
    apnews.com apnews.com
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    This is going to be spun in so many different ways.
     

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