General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (12 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[MT15]

Take any demographic of voter, Soccer mom, LGBTQ, pro life, pro choice, teachers, doctors, billionaires..

If you turn out your idiots, you’ve already got half of every individual demographic. Most of the non idiots know which party they are voting for before the campaign starts, and they are always the most likely voters.

By not focusing on the idiots, we are wasting time and effort on the least persuadable voters, just because they are the “likely voters”.

Likely voters don’t swing close elections. It’s the unlikely voters (idiots).

Trump has figured this out, and we better catch up.

Or we can have a discussion about the electoral college as any hope of changing it passes us by.

Trump won one (1) election by a very thin margin. He’s not a political genius. He’s got a canny way of pulling media focus, but that’s about it.

 

[MT15]

 

[samiam5211]

Trump won one (1) election by a very thin margin. He’s not a political genius. He’s got a canny way of pulling media focus, but that’s about it.

Whether Trump narrowly wins or loses is irrelevant.

They have a superior model, and a model that is going to only get better. The idiot vote is the most influential bloc in the country and there isn't any doubt about it.

We have plenty of idiots on our side, but we are too good to cater to them. Instead, we think trying to change minds of people who disagree with us is a better use of our effort. "High five Liz Cheney. "Meanwhile, our bench is on Instagram and TikTok slowing changing teams, because they don't really care about any of this crap. Then the other side makes them start to care. If we don't make our idiots care, someone else will.

I don't like it.

Reality doesn't care if we like it, but it will kick the shirt out of us if we don't accept it.

Completely backing off Joe Biden calling them garbage was a mistake. She should have said "I'm sure that some of them are very fine people".

 

[samiam5211]

The Idiots aren't anyone involved in random forums like this.

Even Farb and SFL aren't the idiots of their side, they are like the god damn Rhodes scholars compared to their idiots.

 

[MT15]

Completely backing off Joe Biden calling them garbage was a mistake.

So we have Lapaz saying she didn’t go far enough and you saying she completely backed off. I actually think she hit the right note - she didn’t comment on Biden at all and just clarified her own message - which has been consistent - that she will work for everyone, not just her voters.

If the election was over - absolutely go with your quip. Morally justified and satisfying.

Most of the idiots don’t vote, even MAGA idiots. I remember someone at a Trump rally speaking to them and most of them weren’t even registered.

I think early voting indicates strong turnout - and that generally favors Dems. Trump hasn’t gained as many voters as he lost with Jan 6. I am hopeful about this election.

 

[MT15]

So now he changed the design of some sort of military vessel during his term?

 

[samiam5211]

So we have Lapaz saying she didn’t go far enough and you saying she completely backed off. I actually think she hit the right note - she didn’t comment on Biden at all and just clarified her own message - which has been consistent - that she will work for everyone, not just her voters.

If the election was over - absolutely go with your quip. Morally justified and satisfying.

Most of the idiots don’t vote, even MAGA idiots. I remember someone at a Trump rally speaking to them and most of them weren’t even registered.

I think early voting indicates strong turnout - and that generally favors Dems. Trump hasn’t gained as many voters as he lost with Jan 6. I am hopeful about this election.

Yes, but you thinking she hit the right note doesn't matter. You were voting for her, even if she had slightly missed the note.

The people she needs to get off the couch, need to see a line on social media that make them go ooooohhh I'm going to get up to go vote for that birch. We are talking about complete morons here, whose vote counts every bit as anyone's if they bother to cast it.

I would bet that most people posting in this thread have already voted if they are going to vote. There isn't anything that is changing any of our minds, even if that is not the case.

 

[efil4]

I think a couple of previous presidential candidates were scrapped for looking less goofy than this idiot:

Dukakis is like "wheeew. Finally"

 

[superchuck500]

Dukakis is like "wheeew. Finally"

He looks like the Chick-Fil-A manager out walking the drive-through line

 

[superchuck500]

 

[MT15]

Yes, but you thinking she hit the right note doesn't matter. You were voting for her, even if she had slightly missed the note.

The people she needs to get off the couch, need to see a line on social media that make them go ooooohhh I'm going to get up to go vote for that birch. We are talking about complete morons here, whose vote counts every bit as anyone's if they bother to cast it.

I would bet that most people posting in this thread have already voted if they are going to vote. There isn't anything that is changing any of our minds, even if that is not the case.

Women who have never voted before are showing up. A couple of posts about the election so far:

 

[MT15]

This guy is a close ally of RFK, Jr and would probably be appointed to some sort of HHS position. These guys are so delusional and dangerous.

 

[fooferdoggie]

So now he changed the design of some sort of military vessel during his term?

looks like someone shot his face with a bunch of paintballs that vest brings out the color in his face

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I think a couple of previous presidential candidates were scrapped for looking less goofy than this idiot:

Dude looks like a Dennis Doll!

Side note: This is from an episode called Making Paddy's Pub Great Again!

 

[not2rich]

I think this cynical attempt of MAGA being offended at being called garbage (if the shoe fits) is going to increase the backlash against the Puerto Rican slur. These bitches have the nerve to be casually racist and turn around and whine about being called the trash they are?

 

[LA - L.A.]

Again, this changes the vibe going into the last week. You don’t want anything negative occuring.

I don't see or hear any negativity about the comment being associated to Harris by anyone other than some media outlets, a few posters here, and as expected, from fascist right wing liars.

I haven't seen anything that shows voters have reacted with the negativity that some are worried about.

 

[LA - L.A.]

...but it is all over right-wing media and being used on the Trump campaign trail...I think it is going to remain a topic until she clearly kills denounces it.

And this is where your line of thinking breaks from reality.

Nothing Harris can say will keep the fascist right wing media from continuing to pump lied about this story.

If as you constantly claim, some voters are on a razor fine edge as to who to vote for, then nothing Harris can say will keep the fascist right wing lies from pushing them over the edge toward Trump.

Your line of thinking is illogical.

 

[LA - L.A.]

It could have an effect on voter turnout. It could turn off a few voters, and that might be enough. It doesn't have to be a huge deal to simply confront the topic. If Harris does it more completely than she did at Andrews AFB, but also empathizing, then it could go away. Until then, the right will keep using it to neutralize the comic's disgusting remark.

Harris will get right on it as soon as you send her the magical words she has to say to satisfy you and those other voters you're so worried about.