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    Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

    There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:


    She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

    She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

    This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



    To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

    I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

    Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.
     
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    New focus groups of skeptical young men planning to vote in this fall’s most critical battleground states illustrate how, for those voters, it’s all about Donald Trump.

    The former president has been the dominant figure in American politics and culture since they were teens — or even earlier than that, for some of them. Those leaning toward Vice President Kamala Harris described their choice as more of a vote against Trump than a demonstration of support for her — “the lesser of two evils” or a “step in the right direction, even if it’s a small step.”

    By contrast, those leaning toward Trump were far more likely to describe their vote as affirmative support for Trump, reminiscing about the “prosperity” and “stability” they associate with his first term in conversations as part of the NBC News Deciders Focus Group, produced in collaboration with Syracuse University and the research firms Engagious and Sago.

    Polling has found a significant gender gap in the race, with Trump holding the upper hand among men and Harris among women. And while Democrats have long performed better among younger voters, the gender gap persists with that group, too: This month’s NBC News Stay Tuned Gen Z Poll powered by SurveyMonkey found Harris leading among Gen Z women by a much wider margin, 30 points, than her 4-point edge over Trump among Gen Z men (within the margin of error).

    The two campaigns have been vocal about their attempts to target young men — Trump through the world of influencers and combat sports and Harris through targeted ads and the constant refrain about vice presidential nominee Tim Walz’s past as an assistant football coach. And considering those voters live in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, states regularly decided by small numbers of voters, the ultimate margin among them could prove pivotal.

    A distinct difference emerged in how those voters ultimately ended up preferring each candidate. Not one of the Harris-leaning voters is voting because he is proactively pro-Harris.

    “Young male Harris leaners were so traumatized by Trump 1.0 they’re desperate to avoid a sequel, while young male Trump leaners recall Trump 1.0 so fondly they yearn for a repeat,” said Engagious President Rich Thau, who moderated the sessions.

    That trend was clear throughout the two focus groups, one with seven Harris-leaning voters under 30 years old and a second with eight leaning toward Trump.

    “The endorsement of Kamala Harris seems more like a rejection of Donald Trump and the current Republican Party. It comes from a few, either you call them beliefs or topics that I feel strongly about, like LGBT rights, reproductive rights. So it makes it impossible to support anyone currently in the Republican Party,” said William C., 29, of Morton, Pennsylvania............


    www.nbcnews.com

    For young men who grew up in the Trump era, the 2024 election is about one big thing

    In two focus groups with skeptical young male voters, virtually all described their votes as more about backing or opposing Trump than anything about Harris.
    www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    New focus groups of skeptical young men planning to vote in this fall’s most critical battleground states illustrate how, for those voters, it’s all about Donald Trump.

    The former president has been the dominant figure in American politics and culture since they were teens — or even earlier than that, for some of them. Those leaning toward Vice President Kamala Harris described their choice as more of a vote against Trump than a demonstration of support for her — “the lesser of two evils” or a “step in the right direction, even if it’s a small step.”

    By contrast, those leaning toward Trump were far more likely to describe their vote as affirmative support for Trump, reminiscing about the “prosperity” and “stability” they associate with his first term in conversations as part of the NBC News Deciders Focus Group, produced in collaboration with Syracuse University and the research firms Engagious and Sago.

    Polling has found a significant gender gap in the race, with Trump holding the upper hand among men and Harris among women. And while Democrats have long performed better among younger voters, the gender gap persists with that group, too: This month’s NBC News Stay Tuned Gen Z Poll powered by SurveyMonkey found Harris leading among Gen Z women by a much wider margin, 30 points, than her 4-point edge over Trump among Gen Z men (within the margin of error).

    The two campaigns have been vocal about their attempts to target young men — Trump through the world of influencers and combat sports and Harris through targeted ads and the constant refrain about vice presidential nominee Tim Walz’s past as an assistant football coach. And considering those voters live in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, states regularly decided by small numbers of voters, the ultimate margin among them could prove pivotal.

    A distinct difference emerged in how those voters ultimately ended up preferring each candidate. Not one of the Harris-leaning voters is voting because he is proactively pro-Harris.

    “Young male Harris leaners were so traumatized by Trump 1.0 they’re desperate to avoid a sequel, while young male Trump leaners recall Trump 1.0 so fondly they yearn for a repeat,” said Engagious President Rich Thau, who moderated the sessions.

    That trend was clear throughout the two focus groups, one with seven Harris-leaning voters under 30 years old and a second with eight leaning toward Trump.

    “The endorsement of Kamala Harris seems more like a rejection of Donald Trump and the current Republican Party. It comes from a few, either you call them beliefs or topics that I feel strongly about, like LGBT rights, reproductive rights. So it makes it impossible to support anyone currently in the Republican Party,” said William C., 29, of Morton, Pennsylvania............


    www.nbcnews.com

    For young men who grew up in the Trump era, the 2024 election is about one big thing

    In two focus groups with skeptical young male voters, virtually all described their votes as more about backing or opposing Trump than anything about Harris.
    www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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    One of the Trump supporters said the following:
    ““He can revert to just complete lies and word salad when he gets on tangents. He does have ... answers and actual facts to back up what he’s saying, but he just loses himself in tangents, and he’s so far gone by the time a couple sentences pass and he just can’t get out of that unprofessionalism and, just, word vomit,” said Bret A., 29, of Philadelphia.“I think [it] really hurts his credibility and credence and just overall professionalism as someone who’s supposed to be seen as a leader,””

    What facts? The economy is doing great. The current immigration problem is his fault for opposing the bill that would fix it. Many things mentioned in the article that the men are giving Trump credit for are speculation, so what are the facts that Trump can’t verbalize due to his inability to focus? Do these men think that lack of focus is good for a leader that has to make decisions that impact the nation?
     
    Lapaz said:
    One of the Trump supporters said the following:
    ““He can revert to just complete lies and word salad when he gets on tangents. He does have ... answers and actual facts to back up what he’s saying, but he just loses himself in tangents, and he’s so far gone by the time a couple sentences pass and he just can’t get out of that unprofessionalism and, just, word vomit,” said Bret A., 29, of Philadelphia.“I think [it] really hurts his credibility and credence and just overall professionalism as someone who’s supposed to be seen as a leader,””

    What facts? The economy is doing great. The current immigration problem is his fault for opposing the bill that would fix it. Many things mentioned in the article that the men are giving Trump credit for are speculation, so what are the facts that Trump can’t verbalize due to his inability to focus? Do these men think that lack of focus is good for a leader that has to make decisions that impact the nation?
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    Yeah, I'm sorry Bret but no, Cheato doesn't have any facts or answers. None.
     
    He’s like his own home shopping channel just by himself. So tacky for someone who wants to be POTUS.

     
    fooferdoggie said:
    and cheap overpriced crap just like the real ones.
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    Yeah, a guy who knows watches read the fine print - these are not quality watches. Plus they cannot tell you when they will ship nor exactly what they will look like. The ad says the pictures are just “representations” of the product which might look different. 🤦‍♀️
     
    Trump spokesperson says if states want to track women’s menstrual cycles or ban travel out of state for abortion care that’s just fine with him. A Trump admin wouldn’t challenge any state wanting to do this. 😡

     
    MT15 said:
    I’m not somewhere where I can listen to this clip. It seems deranged, is it as bad as it seems?

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    he was saying that the people leaving werent really leaving - complained about plane being delayed because " there's a little Hurricane in Florida " ( now over 30 deaths )

    at this juncture in the election ( and im repeating myself ) if you are undecided you arent voting. If you vote Trump, its because you cant stand to see your team get smoked in November and/or you are a 1 issue voter with regards to abortion or border.
     
    MT15 said:
    Yeah, a guy who knows watches read the fine print - these are not quality watches. Plus they cannot tell you when they will ship nor exactly what they will look like. The ad says the pictures are just “representations” of the product which might look different. 🤦‍♀️
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    is that the 100,000 om the 600.00? they want money then maybe they will have them made. cheap arse bitches.
     

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