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    Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

    There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:


    She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

    She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

    This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



    To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

    I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

    Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.
     
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    That's such an ugly face, and the Criminal is projecting about other criminals as well.

    Calls them "killers."

    I wonder if he's also projecting about the "killer" part ?



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    Kamala has allowed more than 13,000 convicted “killers” into our Country. She is not fit to be President!
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    I hesitate to give JD Vance any ideas, but if American women were denied the vote, Donald Trump would be restored to the White House in a landslide.

    Similarly, if men were removed from the franchise, Kamala Harriswould be swept into the Oval Office in an even bigger earthquake. As it is, the two are clashing in an election marked by a gulf so wide, the phrase “gender gap” doesn’t do it justice.

    In ways that go deeper than mere politics, and with implications for the world beyond the US, the presidential election is increasingly looking like a war between men and women.

    The numbers are stunning. An NBC poll this weekfound men favour Trump over Harris by 12 points, 52% to 40%. Among women, Harris leads Trump by 21 points: 58% to 37%. Put the two together and you have a gender chasm of 33 points.

    Men may not be from Mars and women may not be from Venus, but when it comes to choosing a US president, they are on different planets.

    What explains it? The most obvious answer is that Trump’s record, including a court ruling that he had committed rape and his own admission of serial sexual assault, boasting that he grabbed women “by the pursey”, makes him repellent to tens of millions of women, none of that reduced by appointing a sidekick who speaks of “childless cat ladies”.

    Similar explanatory power attaches to the 2022 decision by the supreme court, in the Dobbs case, to overturn the constitutional right to an abortion. Since then, it’s been up to the 50 states whether to grant or withhold that right from women, and 22 of them have chosen to deny it.

    That shift is on Trump, who nominated three of the six supreme court judges who made the Dobbs decision, an achievement of which he has said he is “proud”.

    But while the move delighted Trump’s evangelical Christian supporters, it has cost him dear. Dobbs did not just anger American women, it mobilised them. In the midterm elections of 2022, as high inflation fuelled disaffection with Joe Biden, Republicans assumed they would ride a “red wave” to victory.

    That wave never came, in part because women, furious at the court’s ruling and Republicans’ part in it, turned out in big numbersto vote against them.

    And while Biden has never been fully comfortable speaking about abortion, Dobbs is widely regarded as the moment Harris found her voice as a national figure.

    Still, the long-running battle over abortion rights only explains one side of the gender divide. Less obvious is that, as much as women are pulling away from Trump, large numbers of men, especially young men, are drawn towards him.

    Here, the numbers are even more striking. Attitude surveys show that women between the ages of 18 and 29 are the most progressive group in US history.

    Meanwhile, a majority of men the same age back Donald Trump. A poll of six battleground states last month found among gen Z voters a gender gulf of 51 points.

    Part of it is explained by Trump’s trade in swaggering machismo, offering a kind of cartoonish manliness. In recent months that part of his act has only got louder.

    His supporters always wore T-shirts showing Trump’s face superimposed on a ripped, Rambo-style body, but now they have the image of his bloodied face, fist pumped in the air, seconds after the assassination attempt on him in July, as he urged his followers to “Fight, fight, fight!”

    There is nothing subtle about this. At his party convention in Milwaukee he was introduced by wrestler Hulk Hogan and the man behind the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

    Bear in mind that one study of young people around the world found that while young women were most concerned about issues such as “sexual harassment, domestic violence, child abuse and mental health”, young men were more focused on “competition, bravery, and honour”…….

    www.theguardian.com

    It’s not just Trump v Harris: America’s men and women are also locked in battle now | Jonathan Freedland

    There are clear reasons why women are running from Trump, but men are flocking to him – and it’s vital to understand why, says Guardian columnist Jonathan Freedland
    www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    The numbers are stunning. An NBC poll this weekfound men favour Trump over Harris by 12 points, 52% to 40%. Among women, Harris leads Trump by 21 points: 58% to 37%. Put the two together and you have a gender chasm of 33 points.
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    There's an error of reasoning in the part I quoted from that Guardian article above. One doesn't put the two together like it illustrates above to calculate a gender chasm of 33%. That makes no sense, and it produces a dimensionless number, a chasm is undefined.

    What is a reasonable thing to do with those numbers is to compare them, i.e. subtract the smaller number from the larger one.

    That's 9% and one might even use that to make a crude guess as to how far Harris might be ahead of the Criminal, potentially ahead of him by 9%.

    That 9% would assume that men and women will vote in equal numbers, the same as they are about equal in our population.

    I think women actually outnumber men by 2%, which is pretty close to equal, and by the amount they are not equal with women ahead, that will pad Harris' chances a bit further than 9%.
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    I hesitate to give JD Vance any ideas, but if American women were denied the vote, Donald Trump would be restored to the White House in a landslide.

    Similarly, if men were removed from the franchise, Kamala Harriswould be swept into the Oval Office in an even bigger earthquake. As it is, the two are clashing in an election marked by a gulf so wide, the phrase “gender gap” doesn’t do it justice.

    In ways that go deeper than mere politics, and with implications for the world beyond the US, the presidential election is increasingly looking like a war between men and women.

    The numbers are stunning. An NBC poll this weekfound men favour Trump over Harris by 12 points, 52% to 40%. Among women, Harris leads Trump by 21 points: 58% to 37%. Put the two together and you have a gender chasm of 33 points.

    Men may not be from Mars and women may not be from Venus, but when it comes to choosing a US president, they are on different planets.

    What explains it? The most obvious answer is that Trump’s record, including a court ruling that he had committed rape and his own admission of serial sexual assault, boasting that he grabbed women “by the pursey”, makes him repellent to tens of millions of women, none of that reduced by appointing a sidekick who speaks of “childless cat ladies”.

    Similar explanatory power attaches to the 2022 decision by the supreme court, in the Dobbs case, to overturn the constitutional right to an abortion. Since then, it’s been up to the 50 states whether to grant or withhold that right from women, and 22 of them have chosen to deny it.

    That shift is on Trump, who nominated three of the six supreme court judges who made the Dobbs decision, an achievement of which he has said he is “proud”.

    But while the move delighted Trump’s evangelical Christian supporters, it has cost him dear. Dobbs did not just anger American women, it mobilised them. In the midterm elections of 2022, as high inflation fuelled disaffection with Joe Biden, Republicans assumed they would ride a “red wave” to victory.

    That wave never came, in part because women, furious at the court’s ruling and Republicans’ part in it, turned out in big numbersto vote against them.

    And while Biden has never been fully comfortable speaking about abortion, Dobbs is widely regarded as the moment Harris found her voice as a national figure.

    Still, the long-running battle over abortion rights only explains one side of the gender divide. Less obvious is that, as much as women are pulling away from Trump, large numbers of men, especially young men, are drawn towards him.

    Here, the numbers are even more striking. Attitude surveys show that women between the ages of 18 and 29 are the most progressive group in US history.

    Meanwhile, a majority of men the same age back Donald Trump. A poll of six battleground states last month found among gen Z voters a gender gulf of 51 points.

    Part of it is explained by Trump’s trade in swaggering machismo, offering a kind of cartoonish manliness. In recent months that part of his act has only got louder.

    His supporters always wore T-shirts showing Trump’s face superimposed on a ripped, Rambo-style body, but now they have the image of his bloodied face, fist pumped in the air, seconds after the assassination attempt on him in July, as he urged his followers to “Fight, fight, fight!”

    There is nothing subtle about this. At his party convention in Milwaukee he was introduced by wrestler Hulk Hogan and the man behind the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

    Bear in mind that one study of young people around the world found that while young women were most concerned about issues such as “sexual harassment, domestic violence, child abuse and mental health”, young men were more focused on “competition, bravery, and honour”…….

    www.theguardian.com

    It’s not just Trump v Harris: America’s men and women are also locked in battle now | Jonathan Freedland

    There are clear reasons why women are running from Trump, but men are flocking to him – and it’s vital to understand why, says Guardian columnist Jonathan Freedland
    www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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    As a society we really really need to craft a way of being, a path for young men where they can feel like the hero in their own life.

    Now, hardcore feminists and LGBTQ activists would day that we don't owe a damn thing to young white men. Colonist scum that they are.

    Maybe we don't, but there's a forkload of them and they can turn an election.

    A little something to give them a positive context to apply to life wouldn't be a bad thing.
     
    Taurus said:
    As a society we really really need to craft a way of being, a path for young men where they can feel like the hero in their own life.

    Now, hardcore feminists and LGBTQ activists would day that we don't owe a damn thing to young white men. Colonist scum that they are.

    Maybe we don't, but there's a forkload of them and they can turn an election.

    A little something to give them a positive context to apply to life wouldn't be a bad thing.
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    yes, the angry white man is still a force in elections . Once again democrats can not become complacent. Those types
    always vote. The 18-34 vote doesnt always ( see 2016 )

    www.cnn.com

    There’s nothing more frightening in America today than an angry White man | CNN

    Racial fears, “stand your ground” laws and an increasingly violent political climate are emboldening angry White men across America.
    www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
     
    Taurus said:
    As a society we really really need to craft a way of being, a path for young men where they can feel like the hero in their own life.

    Now, hardcore feminists and LGBTQ activists would day that we don't owe a damn thing to young white men. Colonist scum that they are.

    Maybe we don't, but there's a forkload of them and they can turn an election.

    A little something to give them a positive context to apply to life wouldn't be a bad thing.
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    "United we stand, divided we fall" is not just a catchy slogan and it applies to the entirety of the human species, not just American society and politics.
     
    this made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

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    Trump is going to be getting trolled tonight...

    When former President Donald Trump looks up from his seat in Bryant-Denny Stadium Saturday night during the Alabama-Georgia football game, he may see more than just 100,000 fans watching a high-stakes college football showdown. That’s because Vice President Kamala Harris plans to troll her opponent over his refusal to debate her for a second time — from the skies.

    The Harris campaign has arranged to have a small plane fly over Tuscaloosa during the game with a banner declaring, “Trump’s Punting on 2nd Debate.”

    It’s a challenge that won’t just be visible to those cheering on the Crimson Tide or the Georgia Bulldogs from the stands, a campaign official tells CNN. The Harris campaign will also air a national ad during one of the most highly anticipated games of college football where she calls on the former president to meet her on the debate stage one more time.
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    www.cnn.com

    Harris plans to troll Trump over second debate during Alabama football game | CNN Politics

    When former President Donald Trump looks up from his seat in Bryant-Denny Stadium Saturday night during the Alabama-Georgia football game, he may see more than just 100,000 fans watching a high-stakes college football showdown. That’s because Vice President Kamala Harris plans to troll her...
    www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
     

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