General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (2 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[superchuck500]

He has no idea

 

[fooferdoggie]

He has no idea

of course, does not except how he can rip others off with it.

 

[Optimus Prime]

guess this can go here

He's denying that he almost said what it sure sounded like he almost said

What do you think?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Cast of Hamilton with their "rock the vote" video

 

[MT15]

guess this can go here

He's denying that he almost said what it sure sounded like he almost said

What do you think?

I think he started to say migrants with a soft i instead of a long i. I didn’t hear an “n” it sounded like an “m”.

Was close though.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

He has no idea

What the actual F is he talking about?

 

[Taurus]

he took the side of the anti vaxxers and the anti maskers. he was against any kind of preventive measures other than miracle cures.
he backed all the people who were against any kind of preventive measures. he bet all his marbles on it going away once summer hit and when it didn't, and then he went into conspiracy theory mode about it was all the Dems fault, blame china, Faucci and everone he could except the lack of preperations...

The craven fantasizing was there from the start. First it was a Dem hoax, then the fifteen cases "will be going down", then it would be gone by April "Like magic". At no point did the idiotic baby ever take Covid seriously for what it is. It only ever registered as a PR problem and his NPD made him try to turn it into a virtue, like the more people who got Covid the bigger and more influential the Donald-thing became. The response was a complete, abject failure from start to when he was punted from the White House like the ill-mannered squatter he is.

 

[superchuck500]

This is so disgusting - Vance is total trash. He knows this isn’t true. Neither was liberal, they are mentally disturbed people.

 

[UriUT]

This is so disgusting - Vance is total trash. He knows this isn’t true. Neither was liberal, they are mentally disturbed people.

It's their new strategy. Top to bottom, including foxnews.

 

[Optimus Prime]

It’s frighteningly easy to imagine. Kamala Harris wins Georgia. The state elections board, under the sway of its new Trump-aligned commissioners, grinds the certification process to a slow halt to investigate unfounded fraud allegations, spurring the state’s Republican legislature to select its own slate of electors.

Perhaps long lines in Philadelphia lead to the state supreme court holding polls open until everyone has a chance to vote. Before anyone knows the results, Republicans appeal to the US supreme court using the “independent state legislature” (ISL) theory, insisting that the state court overstepped its bounds and the late votes not be counted.

Or maybe an election evening fire at a vote counting center in Milwaukee disrupts balloting. The progressive majority on the state supreme court attempts to establish a new location, but Republicans ask the US supreme court to shut it down.


Maybe that last example was inspired by HBO’s Succession. But in this crazy year, who’s to say it couldn’t happen? The real concern is this: if you think a repeat of Bush v Gore can’t happen this year, think again.

There are dozens of scenarios where Trump’s endgame not only pushes a contested election into the courts, but ensures that it ends up before one court in particular: a US supreme court packed with a conservative supermajority that includes three lawyers who cut their teeth working on Bush v Gore, one whose wife colluded with Stop the Steal activists to overturn the 2020 results, and another whose spouse flew the insurrectionist flagoutside their home.

That’s why those scenarios should cause such alarm, along with very real actions and litigation over voting rolls already under way in multiple states.

Meanwhile, in Georgia, Arizona, Texas and elsewhere, Republican legislators and boards that might otherwise fly under the radar are busy changing election laws, reworking procedures, altering certification protocols, purging voters and laying the groundwork for six weeks of havoc after Americans vote on 5 November but before the electoral college gathers on 17 December.

Lower courts may brush aside this mayhem, as they did after the 2020 election. But if the election comes down to just one or two states with a photo finish, a Bush v Gore redux in which the court chooses the winner feels very much in play.

The court divided along partisan lines in 2000; its partisan intensity, of course, has greatly intensified in the two decades since.

What’s terrifying is that the court has already proved the Republican party’s willing ally. The Roberts court laid much of the groundwork for this chaos in a series of voting rights decisions that reliably advantaged Republicans, empowered Maga caucuses even in swing states, then unleashed and encouraged those lawmakers to pass previously unlawful restrictions based on evidence-free claims of voter fraud…….

There’s a danger that the US supreme court, not voters, picks the next president | David Daley

Millions of Americans will vote this fall – but six Republican justices might have the final say, in a Bush v Gore redux

www.theguardian.com

 

[bird]

It’s frighteningly easy to imagine. Kamala Harris wins Georgia. The state elections board, under the sway of its new Trump-aligned commissioners, grinds the certification process to a slow halt to investigate unfounded fraud allegations, spurring the state’s Republican legislature to select its own slate of electors.

Perhaps long lines in Philadelphia lead to the state supreme court holding polls open until everyone has a chance to vote. Before anyone knows the results, Republicans appeal to the US supreme court using the “independent state legislature” (ISL) theory, insisting that the state court overstepped its bounds and the late votes not be counted.

Or maybe an election evening fire at a vote counting center in Milwaukee disrupts balloting. The progressive majority on the state supreme court attempts to establish a new location, but Republicans ask the US supreme court to shut it down.


Maybe that last example was inspired by HBO’s Succession. But in this crazy year, who’s to say it couldn’t happen? The real concern is this: if you think a repeat of Bush v Gore can’t happen this year, think again.

There are dozens of scenarios where Trump’s endgame not only pushes a contested election into the courts, but ensures that it ends up before one court in particular: a US supreme court packed with a conservative supermajority that includes three lawyers who cut their teeth working on Bush v Gore, one whose wife colluded with Stop the Steal activists to overturn the 2020 results, and another whose spouse flew the insurrectionist flagoutside their home.

That’s why those scenarios should cause such alarm, along with very real actions and litigation over voting rolls already under way in multiple states.

Meanwhile, in Georgia, Arizona, Texas and elsewhere, Republican legislators and boards that might otherwise fly under the radar are busy changing election laws, reworking procedures, altering certification protocols, purging voters and laying the groundwork for six weeks of havoc after Americans vote on 5 November but before the electoral college gathers on 17 December.

Lower courts may brush aside this mayhem, as they did after the 2020 election. But if the election comes down to just one or two states with a photo finish, a Bush v Gore redux in which the court chooses the winner feels very much in play.

The court divided along partisan lines in 2000; its partisan intensity, of course, has greatly intensified in the two decades since.

What’s terrifying is that the court has already proved the Republican party’s willing ally. The Roberts court laid much of the groundwork for this chaos in a series of voting rights decisions that reliably advantaged Republicans, empowered Maga caucuses even in swing states, then unleashed and encouraged those lawmakers to pass previously unlawful restrictions based on evidence-free claims of voter fraud…….

There’s a danger that the US supreme court, not voters, picks the next president | David Daley

Millions of Americans will vote this fall – but six Republican justices might have the final say, in a Bush v Gore redux

www.theguardian.com

This underscores why there must be a national elections commission.

 

[fooferdoggie]

This is so disgusting - Vance is total trash. He knows this isn’t true. Neither was liberal, they are mentally disturbed people.

I know he is doing the trash-talking. such a trump minime.

 

[coldseat]

This is so disgusting - Vance is total trash. He knows this isn’t true. Neither was liberal, they are mentally disturbed people.

Democrats need to start blaming Trump, Vance and Republicans for inspiring and motivating all the crazies out there to take assassination attempts at them and for the lack gun laws that make it possible. It's Republicans own fault, so might as well blame it on them.

The typical "be the adults in the room" and "tone down the rhetoric" isn't going to work with this group of scoundrels. They will only use it as a cudgel.

 

[Optimus Prime]

A Republican congressman has called on Kamala Harris to drop her Project 2025 ads following the second apparent assassination attempt against Donald Trump’s life, claiming they incite violence and hatred towards the former president.

Byron Donalds, US representative for Florida’s 19th congressional district, appeared on Laura Ingraham’s Fox News show to claim that Democrats deliberately inciting violence against the Republican candidate, rather than simply campaigning against his policies. An accusation that has been repeatedly denied by Democrats.

Donalds said Harris’ message condemning thealleged assassination attempt and saying she was, “thankful that former President Trump is safe" was not enough of an acknowledgment.

“What she should do is go through all the ad campaigns that they are running in the battleground states,” Donalds told The Ingraham Angle’s host.

“Anything that references being destructive of democracy and all the other tropes and the lies, Project 2025—all that stuff, it should come down.”……

Republican says Harris should drop Project 2025 ads – to protect Trump’s safety

The Republican congressman has urged the Harris campaign to ‘stick to the facts’

www.independent.co.uk

 

[coldseat]

A Republican congressman has called on Kamala Harris to drop her Project 2025 ads following the second apparent assassination attempt against Donald Trump’s life, claiming they incite violence and hatred towards the former president.

Byron Donalds, US representative for Florida’s 19th congressional district, appeared on Laura Ingraham’s Fox News show to claim that Democrats deliberately inciting violence against the Republican candidate, rather than simply campaigning against his policies. An accusation that has been repeatedly denied by Democrats.

Donalds said Harris’ message condemning thealleged assassination attempt and saying she was, “thankful that former President Trump is safe" was not enough of an acknowledgment.

“What she should do is go through all the ad campaigns that they are running in the battleground states,” Donalds told The Ingraham Angle’s host.

“Anything that references being destructive of democracy and all the other tropes and the lies, Project 2025—all that stuff, it should come down.”……

Republican says Harris should drop Project 2025 ads – to protect Trump’s safety

The Republican congressman has urged the Harris campaign to ‘stick to the facts’

www.independent.co.uk

Lol, fork you Byron. Go cry that crap somewhere else.

 

[Huntn]

The Trump Campaign screams don’t talk about our plans for the country, you are endangering our candidate! And oh btw, just you never mind when Donny spews incinerary comments about Harris 24-7, that’s his duty.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Ohio State Legislators should censure the US Senator from Ohio for creating an environment in one of his cities that has become a danger zone for its residents. It's way past time for their Governor to take direct action against Vance!

 

[Optimus Prime]

Atop science magazine has waded into the political sphere after making a presidential endorsement, only the second in its 179-year history.

“Vote for Kamala Harris to Support Science, Health and the Environment,” read the headline in Scientific American on Monday, announcing the publication’s official support for the Democratic presidential candidate.

Harris is Scientific American’s second presidential endorsement in its history, after the magazine backed President Joe Biden during the 2020 election.

“The US faces two futures,” the editors wrote, pushing one candidate who “offers the country better prospects, relying on science, solid evidence and the willingness to learn from experience.”

They continued: “In the other future, the new president endangers public health and safety and rejects evidence, preferring instead nonsensical conspiracy fantasies.”

Scientific American, which has a global readership of six million, cited Harris’s record as vice president, senator and presidential candidate as reasons for endorsing her.

They acknowledged that Trump, “also has a record - a disastrous one,” during his time in the White House.

The magazine firstly focused on the candidates’ healthcare policies and proposals, in particular, health insurance in its comparison...........

Scientific American makes presidential endorsement for second time in 179 years

‘The US faces two futures,’ according to editors at top science magazine

www.independent.co.uk