General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (5 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[SaintForLife]

It's not that unusual. This is when the "economy under Trump was doing fine" long before any Covid disruption.

Luckily everyone knows the economy is horrible currently.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Everything is much more expensive. It's the reason why Trump will win.

because trump forked up covid and corporations are ripping us off again thanks to Trump. How would Trump fix it and give more money to the rich???

 

[SaintForLife]

because trump forked up covid and corporations are ripping us off again thanks to Trump. How would Trump fix it and give more money to the rich???

Trump is responsible for what happened during the Biden-Harris administration?

 

[SaintRob]

Luckily everyone knows the economy is horrible currently.

Compare and contrast the economic recovery, growth, unemployment, and interest rates of G20 countries, post-covid. Let me know where the US stands in comparison.

 

[SaintForLife]

The vibes and joy people have to fake picking out doritos to seem more normal.

 

[Nebaghead]

Luckily everyone knows the economy is horrible currently.

The CPI is the measurement of goods pricing. It is the same “basket” of goods used as a consistent measure. It also takes in consideration average wages.

Consumer Price Index (CPI): What It Is and How It's Used

The Consumer Price Index measures change over time in the prices paid by consumers for a representative basket of goods and services.

www.investopedia.com

Remember when candy bars were 50 cents? Also the min wage was 4.35 then. Entry wages are in the teens throughout the US and even higher in some states. No wonder a candy bar costs a 1.79 now.
Between demand issues, flat wages and high interest rates, the CPI went up a lot during the Biden administration and is now down to 2.9. It was as high as 9.8 2 years ago.

 

[coldseat]

Everything is much more expensive. It's the reason why Trump will win.

When's the last time things weren't more expensive 4 years before that date? This is the argument of a simpleton. It's no wonder that's the argument that Trump is making to you and that you're regurgitating.

 

[efil4]

The vibes and joy people have to fake picking out doritos to seem more normal.

she had the small bag. Tim handed her the LARGER bag.

holy cow yall are grasping at any little thread hoping you will unravel something larger and each time you look more ridiculous than the last.

 

[coldseat]

The vibes and joy people have to fake picking out doritos to seem more normal.

One's a small bag and the other is a big bag. Also, she wasn't holding the small bag, Doug was. They were apparently looking for the big bag.

But you got her .....

 

[fooferdoggie]

Trump is responsible for what happened during the Biden-Harris administration?

trump farked up the US by farking up the covid response so badly. what you think covid did not cause any issues? corporations took advantage of the poor covid response to fleece America and since the covid spreader in cheif did nothing to stop it.

 

[SaintRob]

The vibes and joy people have to fake picking out doritos to seem more normal.

OMGZZZ!!! Impeach her NOW!!! Doritogate!!!

 

[Lapaz]

Whether you agree with it or not at least Trump has listed his policy positions. When you go to the Harris website these are the only links. Not a mention about policies.

From Trump's website:

https://rncplatform.donaldjtrump.com/

CHAPTER ONE: DEFEAT INFLATION AND QUICKLY BRING DOWN ALL PRICES

Our Commitment: The Republican Party will reverse the worst Inflation crisis in four decades that has crushed the middle class, devastated family budgets, and pushed the dream of homeownership out of reach for millions. We will defeat Inflation, tackle the costof-living crisis, improve fiscal sanity, restore price stability, and quickly bring down prices. Inflation is a crushing tax on American families. History shows that Inflation will not magically disappear while policies remain the same. We commit to unleashing American Energy, reining in wasteful spending, cutting excessive Regulations, securing our Borders, and restoring Peace through Strength. Together, we will restore Prosperity, ensure Economic Security, and build a brighter future for American Workers and their families. Our dedication to these Policies will make America stronger, more resilient, and more prosperous than ever before.

It's not just about disagreeing. It is about truth. What good are a bunch of policies that are not based in reality. It's better to remain silent, and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Inflation is already down. It is down to 2.9% for the last 12 months. Cost of living and prices won't come down without a recession. The way to tackle cost of living is not to impose tariffs, deporting immigrants, and imposing protectionism. Those will cause inflation to rise.

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/

1. Unleash American Energy Under President Trump, the U.S. became the Number One Producer of Oil and Natural Gas in the World — and we will soon be again by lifting restrictions on American Energy Production and terminating the Socialist Green New Deal. Republicans will unleash Energy Production from all sources, including nuclear, to immediately slash Inflation and power American homes, cars, and factories with reliable, abundant, and affordable Energy.

We are producing historic amounts of energy, even oil. During Trump's last year, the U.S. produced 751 mil metric tons. In 2022, we produced 762. In 2023, we produced 827.

U.S. oil production 2023 | Statista

Oil production in the United States amounted to around 827.1 million metric tons in 2023, an increase when compared to the previous year and the highest figure recorded within the period of consideration.

www.statista.com

2. Rein in Wasteful Federal Spending Republicans will immediately stabilize the Economy by slashing wasteful Government spending and promoting Economic Growth.

What spending? Closing important agencies, that the president isn't allowed to close, since they were created legislatively? Perhaps just run them into the ground, and stop doing the work they are chartered to do. This is meaningless, unless you read Project 2025.

3. Cut Costly and Burdensome Regulations Republicans will reinstate President Trump's Deregulation Policies, which saved Americans $11,000 per household, and end Democrats’ regulatory onslaught that disproportionately harms low- and middle-income households.

What regulations? Climate? Health? Most regulations were created after public comments, and meant to protect Americans. How do you calculate $11k, and what are the indirect costs?

4. Stop Illegal Immigration Republicans will secure the Border, deport Illegal Aliens, and reverse the Democrats’ Open Borders Policies that have driven up the cost of Housing, Education, and Healthcare for American families.

If Republicans cared about immigration, they would've supported the bi-partisan immigration legislation written by Republicans. Whether we like it or not, illegals drive prices down, not up, because they work cheap. They pay taxes, and don't receive many services, so it is bunk that they are driving costs. If there is an issue, it is for the lower middle class that competes against illegal immigrants. However, the vast majority of immigrants are entering legally using the asylum system, and the legislation would've reformed the asylum system, so it wouldn't be so easy to get asylum. So Republicans don't want to curtail immigration. That is a lying policy.

How the United States Immigration System Works

U.S. immigration law is very complex, and there is much confusion as to how it works. This fact sheet provides basic information about how the U.S. legal immigration system is designed.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

5. Restore Peace through Strength War breeds Inflation while geopolitical stability brings price stability. Republicans will end the global chaos and restore Peace through Strength, reducing geopolitical risks and lowering commodity prices.

There were plenty of wars during Trump's administration. All Trump did was de-stabilize Iran, create more hostility among Palestinians, and encourage despots.

10 Conflicts to Watch in 2019 | Crisis Group

As U.S. leadership of the international order fades, more countries are seeking to bolster their influence by meddling in foreign conflicts. In this new era of limit testing, Crisis Group’s President Robert Malley lists the Ten Conflicts to Watch in 2019.

www.crisisgroup.org

CHAPTER THREE: BUILD THE GREATEST ECONOMY IN HISTORY

Our Commitment: American Workers are the most productive, talented, and innovative on Earth. The only thing holding them back is the suffocating policies of the Democrat Party. Our America First Economic Agenda rests on five pillars: Slashing Regulations, cutting Taxes, securing Fair Trade Deals, ensuring Reliable and Abundant Low Cost Energy, and championing Innovation. Together, we will restore Economic Prosperity and Opportunity for all Americans.

1. Cut Regulations Republicans will slash Regulations that stifle Jobs, Freedom, Innovation and make everything more expensive. We will implement Transparency and Common Sense in rulemaking.

Again, what regulations? What risks are we willing to take by reducing protections offered by regulations? Common sense rulemaking already exists.

2. Make Trump Tax Cuts Permanent and No Tax on Tips Republicans will make permanent the provisions of the Trump Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that doubled the standard deduction, expanded the Child Tax Credit, and spurred Economic Growth for all Americans. We will eliminate Taxes on Tips for millions of Restaurant and Hospitality Workers, and pursue additional Tax Cuts.

The ones that favored the rich and blew up the deficit? Historically, those only provide a sugar spike, and then we crash, so Democrats have to save the economy.

3. Fair and Reciprocal Trade Deals Republicans will continue forging an America First Trade Policy as set forth in Chapter 5, standing up to Countries that cheat and prioritizing American Producers over Foreign Outsourcers. We will bring our critical Supply Chains back home. President Trump turned American Trade Policy around, protecting U.S. Producers, and renegotiating failed agreements.

Biden has instituted buy American, and passed legislation to promote American manufacturing.

4. Reliable and Abundant Low Cost Energy Republicans will increase Energy Production across the board, streamline permitting, and end market-distorting restrictions on Oil, Natural Gas, and Coal. The Republican Party will once again make America Energy Independent, and then Energy Dominant, lowering Energy prices even below the record lows achieved during President Trump’s first term.

I already addressed this, but Democrats also want to promote clean energy, because our lives depend on it.

5. Champion Innovation Republicans will pave the way for future Economic Greatness by leading the World in Emerging Industries.

Crypto Republicans will end Democrats’ unlawful and unAmerican Crypto crackdown and oppose the creation of a Central Bank Digital Currency. We will defend the right to mine Bitcoin, and ensure every American has the right to self-custody of their Digital Assets, and transact free from Government Surveillance and Control.

Deregulating crypto will destroy the dollar, and it is a tool for corruption. Bitcoin and other crypto currency is just a security that should be regulated accordingly to avoid huge scams.

Artificial Intelligence (AI) We will repeal Joe Biden’s dangerous Executive Order that hinders AI Innovation, and imposes Radical Leftwing ideas on the development of this technology. In its place, Republicans support AI Development rooted in Free Speech and Human Flourishing.

Expanding Freedom, Prosperity and Safety in Space Under Republican Leadership, the United States will create a robust Manufacturing Industry in Near Earth Orbit, send American Astronauts back to the Moon, and onward to Mars, and enhance partnerships with the rapidly expanding Commercial Space sector to revolutionize our ability to access, live in, and develop assets in Space.

 

[efil4]

And now for NO Teleprompter Trump:

Also- where is Dr Ronnie Johns...errr Jackson when you need that "lil extra" boost?

Sleepy Don.

 

[efil4]

"....and shes the President, and wants to be the President of the United States, shes Vice President...."

Yeah clearly sharp as a tack.

 

[Lapaz]

"....and shes the President, and wants to be the President of the United States, shes Vice President...."

Yeah clearly sharp as a tack.

Maybe he's practicing his 2028 campaign by saying she's the president. 82 year old Trump will leave prison to run again for 2028!

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

The vibes and joy people have to fake picking out doritos to seem more normal.

one eats Doritos, the other crushes them up and rolls around in them.. lol

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

why is Trump so worried about Biden .. lol.
he just keeps talking about how unfair the DNC is treating Biden.. i wonder if he realizes how desperate he sounds when he's talking about it?
it's hard for him to imagine Biden supporters aren't in a cult like his supporters are..

 

[MT15]

Who knows if it will help, but at least we know what Trump wants to do. Harris is running a campaign strictly on vibes and joy while trying to avoid any discussions of her policies especially the ones she's distanced herself from when she ran for President.

The economy under Trump was doing fine until covid. That's why Trump will win. People had more money in their pockets during Trump's presidency.

We know the same level of detail from Harris as Trump so you are just whining to be whining. Trump doesn’t do detailed policy because he can’t. What you posted is just a list of stuff he wants you to think he will do - not one word about how it will get done.

Nobody is buying this line of complaining from MAGA. It’s just ridiculous.