General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (1 Viewer)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[SFIDC3]

Because that's what it feels like because that's what they are told to feel

Yes, prices are higher. But does anyone think for one second if they weren't the GOP would concede that the economy's doing great?

What's really alarming is the either a) total ignorance or b) flat out refusal......to acknowledge that inflation is global.....prices are up all over the world, these morons act like inflation is a US issue and that their orange bozo is going to magically fix it.....

I had an disturbing conversation with a fishing buddy that was an on the fence voter (he doesn't like Trump), and he harped over and over again on inflation and how bad it is in the US. I told him you wouldn't believe how bad it is in Europe also, at Ocktoberfest this year they raised the price of a mug of beer to $15 (it was either 10 or 12 last year), prompting outrage among the locals.....he looked at me like I was crazy.....I simply don't understand how people can be so ignorant.....and then his wife (who is intelligent, thoughtful) shouted to him that he needed to stop believing everything on Fox news.....disappointing but made perfect sense.....

 

[Optimus Prime]

and I am still getting daily fundraising emails from the Harris Walz campaign

"I know the election didn't go the way we wanted but give us some more money"

Y'all need to get away from me with that

 

[superchuck500]

MIT Econ study shows just how significant low end wage growth has been during the Biden Administration.

Since the 1980s, wage inequality has been mostly a one-way street, with the benefits of wage growth going to those with more education and skills while those with less have seen lower wage growth. This makes it surprising, to say the least, that Autor et al.find that since 2020, real wage increases among workers without college degrees have reversed nearly one-third of the cumulative rise in wage inequality from 1980 to 2019.

 

[fooferdoggie]

and I am still getting daily fundraising emails from the Harris Walz campaign

"I know the election didn't go the way we wanted but give us some more money"

Y'all need to get away from me with that

hey if it works for Trump and I am sure they are still demanding I mean begging money.

 

[Huntn]

and I am still getting daily fundraising emails from the Harris Walz campaign

"I know the election didn't go the way we wanted but give us some more money"

Y'all need to get away from me with that

My wife gave to Act Blue and she was inundated with emails from a variety of left entities. She was livid. I gave to Act Blue don’t check my emails.

 

[MT15]

It’s like all the uber wealthy are going to run the country now. And I can guarantee you that none of them think they need to sacrifice anything. They think the rest of us do.

 

[Optimus Prime]

“Sacrifices need to be made” always means by the middle and working classes

 

[bird]

It’s like all the uber wealthy are going to run the country now. And I can guarantee you that none of them think they need to sacrifice anything. They think the rest of us do.

Balancing the budget is meaningless tap-dancing.

 

[Bayouboy]

Balancing the budget is meaningless tap-dancing.

I disagree. Something has to be done about out of control spending. We can't sustain the current path.

 

[TampaJoe]

Balancing the budget is meaningless tap-dancing.

I agree to a point. I don’t know that we need to balance the budget as in cash inflows equal cash outflows but we need to bring more of a balance to the nations finances. It is okay to have a certain amount of permanent debt but it’s reckless to just keep piling on. Our debt has ballooned over the past 15 to 20 years where now the debt service is almost as much or more than defense spending.

That said, as a matter of principal, government needs to run effectively and efficiently. We should not spend any more of the taxpayers dollars than is required to run government. I think it’s healthy to expect the government to reexamine its spending priorities on a regular basis and to leverage changes in technology to run more efficiently.

 

[J-DONK]

Balancing the budget is meaningless tap-dancing.

It's all hot air. The national debt skyrocketed under Trump last time he was in office.

He might eliminate taxes for the ultra wealthy completely. Which will be fun to see "the centrist" on the board try and defend.

Republicans have never cared about the debt.

 

[Optimus Prime]

It's all hot air. The national debt skyrocketed under Trump last time he was in office.

He might eliminate taxes for the ultra wealthy completely. Which will be fun to see "the centrist" on the board try and defend.

Republicans have never cared about the debt.

Oh, they care mightily about it when there’s Democratic president

 

[bird]

I agree to a point. I don’t know that we need to balance the budget as in cash inflows equal cash outflows but we need to bring more of a balance to the nations finances. It is okay to have a certain amount of permanent debt but it’s reckless to just keep piling on. Our debt has ballooned over the past 15 to 20 years where now the debt service is almost as much or more than defense spending.

That said, as a matter of principal, government needs to run effectively and efficiently. We should not spend any more of the taxpayers dollars than is required to run government. I think it’s healthy to expect the government to reexamine its spending priorities on a regular basis and to leverage changes in technology to run more efficiently.

Government efficiency is a myth. There most certainly are issues in the defense budget due to redundancy with various alterations that the various branches of the military claim to need.

Beyond that? I would love to see actual examples of inefficiency in government beyond the military.

So, one must also ask why, if debt/deficits are an actual real problem then why did government cut its revenue? Reagan signed massive deficit budgets. Bush 2 signed enormous deficit budgets. So did Trump. And they all did so by cutting revenue for no good reason beyond wanting to do so because large donors wanted them to do so.

 

[Sendai]

I agree to a point. I don’t know that we need to balance the budget as in cash inflows equal cash outflows but we need to bring more of a balance to the nations finances. It is okay to have a certain amount of permanent debt but it’s reckless to just keep piling on. Our debt has ballooned over the past 15 to 20 years where now the debt service is almost as much or more than defense spending.

That said, as a matter of principal, government needs to run effectively and efficiently. We should not spend any more of the taxpayers dollars than is required to run government. I think it’s healthy to expect the government to reexamine its spending priorities on a regular basis and to leverage changes in technology to run more efficiently.

The only way to fix the revenue problem is to remove the fica cap. So when these multi million-billion dollar stock options/grants occur from ca still applies. It’s not like 7.5% is going to be that big a deal. And social security and Medicare are the cause of the deficits.

The actual impact on tax revenue from increases and cuts isn’t all that significant. Just look at tax revenues from year to year. Only a fool believes a CBO report, or a report by government economists is in any way accurate.

 

[faceman]

It's all hot air. The national debt skyrocketed under Trump last time he was in office.

He might eliminate taxes for the ultra wealthy completely. Which will be fun to see "the centrist" on the board try and defend.

Republicans have never cared about the debt.

Under Reagan The U.S. went from the largest creditor nation to the largest debtor nation. I remember his campaign
well. those commercials about stacking 1000 dollar bills.

A stack of $1000 bills Sixty-Seven Miles High

President Ronald Reagan described the ominous trillion-dollar milestone that the United States’ national debt passed forty years ago, on October 22, 1981.

teachingamericanhistory.org

He sold it to an ignorant electorate though. Some things never change

 

[MT15]

The only way to fix the revenue problem is to remove the fica cap.

Agreed. This should have been done years, maybe decades ago. It’s not like they didn’t know this issue was coming. But with all the billionaires on Trump’s cabinet, I don’t think this will fly with this administration.

 

[bird]

The only way to fix the revenue problem is to remove the fica cap. So when these multi million-billion dollar stock options/grants occur from ca still applies. It’s not like 7.5% is going to be that big a deal. And social security and Medicare are the cause of the deficits.

The actual impact on tax revenue from increases and cuts isn’t all that significant. Just look at tax revenues from year to year. Only a fool believes a CBO report, or a report by government economists is in any way accurate.

No, they are not. Deficits are caused by cutting Revenue. Only a fool believes any report by private sector economists.

 

[Optimus Prime]

When Kamala Harris stopped at the west Philadelphia barber shop Philly Cuts just days before the election, its manager, James Browne, said the vice-president came off “almost like a favorite aunt”.

Harris seemed “genuine, kind, nice, very comforting” during the half-hour she spent in the shop while campaigning in the largest city in battleground state Pennsylvania, Browne said.

“Meeting her in person was very different than seeing her on TV.”

But when customers would sit down for a cut, he realized their impression of Harris did not match his.

“I did get that men did not want to see a woman with that much power. There was a lot of that,” Browne said.


Days after Harris visited his shop, Donald Trumpdecisively won the presidential election, scoring victories in Pennsylvania and the six other swing states.

It was a catastrophic loss for Democrats, who had seized on Trump’s hardline rhetoric towards his political opponents and undocumented immigrants to argue that he is a threat to democracy.

But perhaps even more concerning for the party’s prospects of regaining power are signs that in major cities in battleground states, Trump is more popular than ever before.……

Democrats search for answers as blue Philadelphia turns towards Trump

Trump grew his support in nearly all of Philadelphia’s wards – what went wrong for Harris in a key Democratic city?

www.theguardian.com