General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (4 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I noticed “weird” dying down a bit. This brings it back

I do get it, and get that it works, and love that it’s striking a nerve but it reminds me a bit of when a republican couldn’t say more than four words without saying ‘woke’

 

[SamAndreas]

This is how I see the criminal's latest stunt on Twitter.

Will he fall into the gorge or not???

This video is a best case, it shows him not quite falling down into the gorge.

 

[LA - L.A.]

...the elites running the countries into the ground on the backs of the citizens. ...put the power back in the hands of the citizens...

I didn't know you are a socialist or communist. I learn something new every day.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

I noticed “weird” dying down a bit. This brings it back

I do get it, and get that it works, and love that it’s striking a nerve but it reminds me a bit of when a republican couldn’t say more than four words without saying ‘woke’

If I even thought of acting that way with my daughter, I'd cut my own #^$% off. And folks want this fool back in office.

 

[SamAndreas]

It's time to discuss the possibility of a horse running loose in the hospital. It happened before, it could happen again.

This video is about when it happened before.

 

[superchuck500]

I didn't know you are a socialist or communist. I learn something new every day.

Populism and socialism are quite different. And I think it's pretty clear which side of that dichotomy SFL falls on.

The problem with populism is that while it is very good at tearing down the forces in government that it rejects (often well-placed), it is terrible at replacing them. Yes, populism opposes power concentration in the wealthy, in the corporations, in the structures that are so often abused to perpetuate control . . . but it is also anti-institution, anti-intellectual/education, and anti-system in general.

But institutions, intelligence/education, and systems are not fundamentally bad and are, in fact, essential to a competently functioning democracy provided that they are not corrupted. So instead of enhancing democracy - which should be the ultimate goal of any true populist - the end game often results in faith in a strong, charismatic leader that talks the populist talk, combined with deep mistrust of the institutions and systems essential to democracy . . . in other words, a slide toward authoritarianism. The strong leader needs to dominate against the institutions and other checks against exclusive executive power, so he manipulates the anti-institutionalist sentiment in the populist support that gave him power in the first place.

So you end with this irony where well-developed populist movements tend to be anti-democratic.

When Does Populism Become a Threat to Democracy?

diamond-democracy.stanford.edu

Explainer: Populism - Left and Right, Progressive and Regressive

For many observers of politics in Europe and the Americas in 2022, the combination of words that forms “right-wing populist” trips easily off the tongue. Right-wing populist politicians, such as Jair Bolsonaro, Narendra Modi, Viktor Orbán, or Donald Trump, are frequently named as such in the...

www.idea.int

 

[LA - L.A.]

Populism and socialism are quite different.

Populists use a lot of the same rhetoric and claim to have the same fundamental goals and values as socialists and communists, while at the same time vilifying socialists and communists as evil and underhanded. I was trying to point out that hypocrisy in my post. I obviously missed the mark.

 

[superchuck500]

Populists use a lot of the same rhetoric and claim to have the same fundamental goals and values as socialists and communists, while at the same time vilifying socialists and communists as evil and underhanded. I was trying to point out that hypocrisy in my post. I obviously missed the mark.

I was just using your post as a jumping off point - I didn't mean to say you were right or wrong with the idea.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I was just using your post as a jumping off point - I didn't mean to say you were right or wrong with the idea.

I didn't think you were saying I was wrong. I thought maybe it seemed like I sincerely thought SFL was a socialist or communist. I know he's a populist and exactly how you explained what populism is.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Uh ohh. Harris-Walz learned how to putt.

According to polls, Harris has cut Trump's lead with non-college educated whites almost by half in swing states. Harris-Walz is polling better with that group in swing states than Biden did in 2020. That's a very good trend for America and a very bad trend for Trump.

This group of voters is helping Harris cut into Trump’s lead in swing states | CNN Politics

According to polling, Vice President Kamala Harris is gaining momentum with White voters without a college education in key swing states ahead of the 2024 election. CNN senior data reporter Harry Enten breaks down the numbers.

www.cnn.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

The humble school meal is having a moment. With the nomination of Minnesota’s governor, Tim Walz, as Kamala Harris’s running mate, many voters and pundits are suddenly talking about school meals.

And that’s good, because the stakes are high for the national school lunch and school breakfast programs since the campaigns and their parties have very different records and plans.

Since Walz became the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, an image of him has frequently circulated. In the photograph, he’s surrounded by smiling children hugging him after he signed a 2023 bill making school meals universally free for all Minnesota children.

His was the fourth state to commit to feeding all children at school; now nine states have done so, and more are considering similar measures. No more forms to fill out to prove your income, which busy parents can forget or that get crumpled in a backpack.

No more penalizing children when their parents fall behind on lunch accounts. Every kid gets fed, powering them up for their day’s work learning and growing.

By most measures, the Minnesota program has been successful and popular. Participation in the meals program soared, increasing 15% at lunch and 37% at breakfast compared with the previous year.

Due to those increases, the economies of scale improved, and some districts have been able to invest more in scratch cooking with ingredients from local farmers.

It turns out that relieving cafeteria staff of the duty to go after parents who fall behind on lunch payments leaves them more time to focus on food quality……..

Meanwhile, Minnesota Republican lawmakers have criticized the free meals program. State representative Kristin Robbins’s complaint is typical: “All the low-income students who need – and we want to provide, make sure no one goes hungry – they were getting [meals] through the free and reduced lunch program. This [new legislation] gave free lunch to all the wealthy families … Is that really a priority?”

Walz’s reply to this argument dripped with irony: “Isn’t that rich? Our Republican colleagues were concerned this would be a tax cut for the wealthiest.”

The year before, the Minnesota GOP proposed a $3.5bn tax cut that largely would have benefited the wealthiest 20%. Feeding all the state’s schoolchildren, even after going over budget because it was so popular, costs only about one-seventh of that…….

Regarding school meals, Project 2025 repeats the willful deception that the federal lunch and breakfast programs are “specifically for children in poverty”. In truth, from their beginnings, these programs were meant for all children.

But they always made allowances for impoverished children’s access – not only poor children, but inclusive of poor children. The authors of Project 2025 argue that any expansion of free meals is against the “original intent” and creates “an entitlement for students from middle- and upper-income homes”. (I wonder what they think of all those wealthy children getting free textbooks?)

Their stated policy goals are to “work with lawmakers to eliminate CEP” and to “reject efforts to create universal free school meals”……

Free meals v hungry children: is this the school lunch election? | Marcus Weaver-Hightower

Tim Walz made school meals free for all children in his state, while Project 2025 is gunning for programs that feed students in high-poverty schools

www.theguardian.com

 

[SaintForLife]

Would this count as misinformation? More manufactured enthusiasm.

 

[SaintForLife]

They are doing great! I'm so glad we have a media we can rely on.

 

[LA - L.A.]

They are doing great! I'm so glad we have a media we can rely on.

It's the very same media you relied on for your belief that Biden was senile.

 

[SaintForLife]

When even CNN is bringing it up. Maybe she will one day. She can only hide for so long.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Would this count as misinformation?

Not at all, because it has nothing to do with the very real; huge, enthusiastic crowds at her rallies, her and Walz's rapid ascension in the polls, and the constant surge of small and first time donors.

Your article talks about an advertising tactic, not the very real enthusiasm the majority of Americans have about the Harris-Walz ticket.

 

[SaintForLife]

More manufactured enthusiasm. Why would those influencers need to sign a NDA to agree to a paid promotion from Democrats?

 

[LA - L.A.]

When even CNN is bringing it up.

So are you using a spreadsheet, Word document or what other document type to cut and paste your pre-written posts and links from?

I ask because you just posted at least 7 links and 5 posts in a least 2 different threads in a little over a minute, so you are obviously copypasta'ing your posts and links from some kind of document that you created ahead of time.

You're carpet bombing the board with Trump disinformation, so I know you know exactly what disinformation is.

Nothing makes it more obvious that you're just an insincere spammer of Trump disinformation than your rapid fire copypasta.