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Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:


She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.
 
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SaintForLife said:
The memo went out to the media from the Harris campaign about the "Joy" narrative and they are fully cooperating.

Joy is just Obama’s hope and change rebranded.

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You do realize campaigns push a narrative and the media reports it. Trump’s campaign has done that and they followed the narrative. If the liberal media was so in the bag for the Dems then they wouldn’t have produced all the news about Biden being old. Literally, that is all you heard.
Get over this flipping media is an arm of the dems. The media reports what will happen make them money. That is the problem with the 24 hour news cycle. it is less about news and more about getting viewers.
 
Nebaghead said:
This all or nothing mentality is what is wrong with congress. You compromise and improve. It was so bad and would have done nothing to help that Trump wanted it killed so it didn’t improve the situation and make Biden look better.
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There does need to be compromise, but that "compromise" shouldn't include things that make illegal immigration easier when the goal of the bill is to make it tougher.
 
SaintForLife said:
There does need to be compromise, but that "compromise" shouldn't include things that make illegal immigration easier when the goal of the bill is to make it tougher.
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What is wrong with immigrants coming into our country legally? Sounds like it gave options to make it easier for immigrants so they wouldn’t have to cross over illegally.
You do realize with population growth down in the US, we need more people to immigrate to take jobs.
 
Nebaghead said:
You do realize campaigns push a narrative and the media reports it. Trump’s campaign has done that and they followed the narrative.
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It's more than that and you know it. Can you show any videos where the media is parroting a Trump campaign narrative like this one?



Nebaghead said:
If the liberal media was so in the bag for the Dems then they wouldn’t have produced all the news about Biden being old.
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You are kidding right? The media that reported that he was old, but also helped cover up his mental decline until the debate and then they all of a sudden started to cover it.

Nebaghead said:
Literally, that is all you heard.
Get over this flipping media is an arm of the dems. The media reports what will happen make them money. That is the problem with the 24 hour news cycle. it is less about news and more about getting viewers.
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The media is an arm of the Democrat party and they have abandoned even trying to pretend they are neutral in their quest to help election Harris.
 
SaintForLife said:
The memo went out to the media from the Harris campaign about the "Joy" narrative and they are fully cooperating.

Joy is just Obama’s hope and change rebranded.

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OMGZ, how horrible of the Harris campaign to have JOY as part of their appeal and message and for the media to report on them.

Can't have no JOY in America, am I right?
 
SaintForLife said:
It's more than that and you know it. Can you show any videos where the media is parroting a Trump campaign narrative like this one?




You are kidding right? The media that reported that he was old, but also helped cover up his mental decline until the debate and then they all of a sudden started to cover it.


The media is an arm of the Democrat party and they have abandoned even trying to pretend they are neutral in their quest to help election Harris.
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I saw news about him being old for months. That is all I saw when I watched the news. When the debate came up, the democrat analysts on all the news programs gave in and quit defending.

You do realize the biggest news channel is balls deep for Trump. Their viewership used to be larger than CNN and MSNBC combined.
 
coldseat said:
OMGZ, how horrible of the Harris campaign to have JOY as part of their appeal and message and for the media to report on them.

Can't have no JOY in America, am I right?
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It's fine for Harris to use Joy as a part of their campaign, but the media shouldn't be parroting that like Democrat activists.

 
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnd now for something completely different.....



why you ask? because he bought it.




at this point, Trump is trolling his supporters. LOLOL.
 
Nebaghead said:
I saw news about him being old for months. That is all I saw when I watched the news. When the debate came up, the democrat analysts on all the news programs gave in and quit defending.
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Okay. What's your point? I acknowledged that they reported on Biden being old while they also helped cover up his cognitive decline.

Do you think the media reporting Biden was old somehow negates them helping to cover up Biden's decline?

The media only quit defending Biden after the debate because it was too obvious to hide anymore and their friends who were top Democrats called them and told them we have to get Biden out because he can't beat Trump.
Nebaghead said:
You do realize the biggest news channel is balls deep for Trump. Their viewership used to be larger than CNN and MSNBC combined.
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Yeah I'm aware that Fox News is in the tank for Trump. I don't watch Fox News.

How does Fox News viewership compare to the rest of the corporate media which are largely liberally biased?
 
Nebaghead said:
What is wrong with immigrants coming into our country legally? Sounds like it gave options to make it easier for immigrants so they wouldn’t have to cross over illegally.
You do realize with population growth down in the US, we need more people to immigrate to take jobs.
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I see you moving the goal posts now. I was talking about illegal immigrants and not legal immigrants. That bill would have helped make illegal immigration easier not harder. Hard pass.
 
SaintForLife said:
Okay. What's your point? I acknowledged that they reported on Biden being old while they also helped cover up his cognitive decline.

Do you think the media reporting Biden was old somehow negates them helping to cover up Biden's decline?

The media only quit defending Biden after the debate because it was too obvious to hide anymore and their friends who were top Democrats called them and told them we have to get Biden out because he can't beat Trump.

Yeah I'm aware that Fox News is in the tank for Trump. I don't watch Fox News.

How does Fox News viewership compare to the rest of the corporate media which are largely liberally biased?
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Yes it does. You can’t report he is old, then say they are covering it up. The debate showed how Biden’s age would impact his ability to campaign. Everyone knew he was old and he tripped on stairs, mis named people and made gaffes. They didn’t hold back at all after the debate.

Here is the viewership for Fox News:

2Q’24 NIELSEN NUMBERS VS. 2Q’23 (Monday-Sunday, Live + Same Day):

TOTAL DAY

FNC: 1,304,000 total viewers (154,000 in 25-54) up 12% P2+ and up 10% A25-54

CNN: 473,000 total viewers (85,000 in 25-54) up 2% P2+ and down -11% A25-54

MSNBC: 810,000 total viewers (83,000 in 25-54) up 2% P2+ and down -13% A25-54

Print media tends to be more liberal than news casts but even then, who reads print anymore. There is a reason why papers are going bankrupt left and right.
 
SaintForLife said:
I see you moving the goal posts now. I was talking about illegal immigrants and not legal immigrants. That bill would have helped make illegal immigration easier not harder. Hard pass.
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They are only illegal because we don’t let them in. Allow a pathway for legal immigration where you can vet and make sure they are able to contribute to the US. Building bigger walls and border security is only a stop gap measure. The best way to address immigration is policy. How about we patch the holes in the sinking boat rather than keep bailing out the water. That is what the legislation did and either you are racist and don’t want immigrants from Mexico and South America coming into our country or you want it to look worse than it is so your guy can win.
 
You really can't make this stuff up. Who is running his campaign?
 
SaintForLife said:
It's fine for Harris to use Joy as a part of their campaign, but the media shouldn't be parroting that like Democrat activists.

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Why? Why shouldn't the media be reporting on what the Harris and Walz are campaigning on and on the very real enthusiasm and joy within the Democratic party?

Should the media not report it because you, Trump and other MAGA don't like it?
 

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