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    As we head toward the summer and the National Party Conventions, it might be handy to have a thread focused on the upcoming matchup of current President Biden vs Former President Trump.
    As of April 28,2024 , CNN's poll shows Trump leading. Yet polls are not always accurate and they are constantly changing.
    Feel free to use this thread for all things relating to Biden vs Trump.
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    www.yahoo.com

    CNN Poll: Trump maintains lead over Biden in 2024 matchup as views on their presidencies diverge

    Donald Trump continues to hold an advantage over President Joe Biden as the campaign – and Trump’s criminal trial – move forward, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. And in the coming rematch, opinions about the first term of each man vying for a second four years in the White House...
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    MT15 said:
    The Trump campaign has been comically overstating his crowds at these rallies. Sometimes by a factor of 10 - it’s that bad. MAGA adherents online also like to claim nobody would ever go see Biden. This guy found a venue that they have both used - Trump recently, Biden in 2022. See the difference?

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    This is why I take the fundraising numbers with a grain of salt

    “We raised a billion dollars last month!!”

    What’s the actual number when they have to file an accurate accounting
     
    MT15 said:
    More easily disproved lies - all because one man’s ego needs constant fluffing:

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    But, but, HIS EO's were needed and is what the people want... lol...
    But Trump is the one who literally said he would use EO like a dictator if elected..
    Jeez.. he "drained the swamp of the snakes and rats" but brought in Cocs, tarantulas, and scorpions....
     
    Bigdaddysaints said:
    But, but, HIS EO's were needed and is what the people want... lol...
    But Trump is the one who literally said he would use EO like a dictator if elected..
    Jeez.. he "drained the swamp of the snakes and rats" but brought in Cocs, tarantulas, and scorpions....
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    Pythons, snapping turtles, water moccasins, sharks, orcas, moray eels…
     
    Interesting, hope this is true. Of course there is a cadre of crazy RW billionaires who are all-in.

     
    Donald Trump has a history of fiery calls urging supporters to rise up, and his most militant fans often have obliged.


    So it might seem counterintuitive that now, as Trump faces unprecedented legal problems and a close election in November, the nation is experiencing a lull in political unrest — in fact, one of the quietest periods that extremism researchers have recorded in recent years.


    Chief among the factors explaining the lack of political violence, analysts say, is a simple one: Trump’s supporters believe he will win the presidency.


    Trump himself has contributed to that certainty by insisting the only way he can lose is if the other side cheats. There’s little reason for pro-Trump extremist groups or radicalized MAGA fans to demonstrate when they foresee the presumptive Republican nominee coasting to victory over President Biden in five months and positioned to enact promised “retribution” against his enemies in seven, political violence trackers say.


    Polling shows a tight race: Trump and Biden are roughly tied among registered voters nationally, with Trump tending to hold small leads in several of the all-important battleground states that Biden won four years ago.

    But in the eyes of many Trump backers, he is almost certain to prevail if the vote is fair. Their confidence carries risk: Experts warn that should Trump lose, the gap between expectation and reality could make for a highly combustible period after the election.


    “They’re assuming that Trump is going to win, and what’s jazzing them up right now is, ‘Then it’s going to be time for retribution,’” said Mary McCord, a former federal prosecutor who now leads the Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection, a Georgetown Law center focused on threats to U.S. security and democracy.


    Should Trump lose, however, “it’s just going to be the same thing [as 2020],” she said. “‘This was rigged, they cheated, they stole this.’ That narrative is super dangerous.”


    Given a national discourse rife with dehumanizing speech, and studies showing U.S. attitudes becoming more supportive of political violence, many extremism researchers fear the current lull is only a pause.

    Those fears are compounded, they add, by the hard right’s portrayal of Trump as not just a candidate but a savior, a messiah-like figure who represents their only hope of rescuing the republic from the “radical left.”………..

     
    NEW YORK (AP) — Former Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger endorsed President Joe Biden on Wednesday, giving the Democrat a prominent new ally in his high-stakes campaign to win over moderate Republicans and independents this fall.

    Kinzinger, a military pilot who emerged as a fierce critic of former President Donald Trump after the U.S. Capitol was attacked by Trump’s supporters, described Trump as “a direct threat to every fundamental American value” in a video announcing the Biden endorsement.

    “While I certainly don’t agree with President Biden on everything, and I never thought I’d be endorsing a Democrat for president, I know that he will always protect the very thing that makes America the best country in the world: our democracy,” said Kinzinger, who voted for Trump in 2020.

    The former Illinois congressman also issued an ominous warning. Trump, he said, will “hurt anyone or anything in pursuit of power.”…….

    apnews.com

    Former GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger endorses Biden, whose campaign wants to flip anti-Trump Republicans

    Former Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger has endorsed President Joe Biden. “I am proud to stand up here today as a conservative Republican, and endorsing Joe Biden,” Kinzinger said during a Georgia news conference.
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    How is this even possible?
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    President Biden and his Democratic allies have cast his reelection campaign as a battle for the country’s survival, warning that a second Donald Trump presidency would present an existential threat to American democracy.

    In speeches and campaign ads, Biden points to Trump’s efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, his incitement of an angry mob that ransacked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and the former president’s boasts that he will use the powers of his office to punish his political enemies.


    But that message may not be resonating with the voters Biden needs in order to win another term in the White House.


    In six swing states that Biden narrowly won in 2020, a little more than half of voters classified as likely to decide the presidential election say threats to democracy are extremely important to their vote for president, according to a poll by The Washington Post and the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University.


    Yet, more of them trust Trump to handle those threats than Biden. And most believe that the guardrails in place to protect democracy would hold even if a dictator tried to take over the country…….

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    Optimus Prime said:
    How is this even possible?
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    President Biden and his Democratic allies have cast his reelection campaign as a battle for the country’s survival, warning that a second Donald Trump presidency would present an existential threat to American democracy.

    In speeches and campaign ads, Biden points to Trump’s efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, his incitement of an angry mob that ransacked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and the former president’s boasts that he will use the powers of his office to punish his political enemies.


    But that message may not be resonating with the voters Biden needs in order to win another term in the White House.


    In six swing states that Biden narrowly won in 2020, a little more than half of voters classified as likely to decide the presidential election say threats to democracy are extremely important to their vote for president, according to a poll by The Washington Post and the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University.


    Yet, more of them trust Trump to handle those threats than Biden. And most believe that the guardrails in place to protect democracy would hold even if a dictator tried to take over the country…….

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    Made possible by the people who spent the past five decades methodically dismantling and degrading public education, especially high school Civics classes during the past two decades.
     
    Presidents Joe Biden and Barack Obama met for private “secret” meals to discuss strategy as the highly contested 2024 election approaches.

    The political pair have been having meetings, between just the two of them, as concerns over Donald Trump’s potential victory in November have creeped into reality, New York Magazine reported.

    The former president’s “anxiety about the election is real,” a friend of Obama’s told the outlet. The source clarified his nerves are related to the general divisions of the country,not to his former vice president or Biden re-election campaign specifically.…….


    www.independent.co.uk

    Obama and Biden are holding secret strategy meetings ahead of election, report claims

    The 44th president’s ‘anxiety about the election is real,’ one of Obama’s friends said
    www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk


    nymag.com

    What Obama Is Whispering to Biden

    The presidents’ plan to save their legacy from Trump.
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    Optimus Prime said:
    NEW YORK (AP) — Former Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger endorsed President Joe Biden on Wednesday, giving the Democrat a prominent new ally in his high-stakes campaign to win over moderate Republicans and independents this fall.

    Kinzinger, a military pilot who emerged as a fierce critic of former President Donald Trump after the U.S. Capitol was attacked by Trump’s supporters, described Trump as “a direct threat to every fundamental American value” in a video announcing the Biden endorsement.

    “While I certainly don’t agree with President Biden on everything, and I never thought I’d be endorsing a Democrat for president, I know that he will always protect the very thing that makes America the best country in the world: our democracy,” said Kinzinger, who voted for Trump in 2020.

    The former Illinois congressman also issued an ominous warning. Trump, he said, will “hurt anyone or anything in pursuit of power.”…….

    apnews.com

    Former GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger endorses Biden, whose campaign wants to flip anti-Trump Republicans

    Former Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger has endorsed President Joe Biden. “I am proud to stand up here today as a conservative Republican, and endorsing Joe Biden,” Kinzinger said during a Georgia news conference.
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    Good for him. Did Liz do the same?
     
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