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    NEW YORK (AP) — President Joe Biden begins an intense period of private preparations Friday at Camp David for what may be the most consequential presidential debate in decades.

    The 81-year-old Democrat’s team is aware that he cannot afford an underwhelming performance when he faces Republican rival Donald Trump for 90 minutes on live television Thursday night. Biden’s team is expecting aggressive attacks on his physical and mental strength, his record on the economy and immigration and even his family.

    Trump, 78 and ever confident, will stay on the campaign trail before going to his Florida estate next week for two days of private meetings as part of an informal prep process.

    The former president’s allies are pushing him to stay focused on his governing plans, but they’re expecting him to be tested by pointed questions about his unrelenting focus on election fraud, his role in the erosion of abortion rights and his unprecedented legal baggage.

    Thursday’s debate on CNN will be full of firsts, with the potential to reshape the presidential race. Never before in the modern era have two presumptive nominees met on the debate stage so early in the general election season. Never before have two White House contenders faced off at such advanced ages, with widespread questions about their readiness.

    And never before has a general election debate participant been saddled with a felony conviction. The debate-stage meeting comes just two weeks before Trump is scheduled to be sentenced on 34 felony counts in his New York hush money trial.

    “You can argue this will be the most important debate, at least in my lifetime,” said Democratic strategist Jim Messina, 54, who managed former President Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign.

    PRESSURE ON BIDEN


    The ground rules for Thursday’s debate, the first of two scheduled meetings, are unusual.

    The candidates agreed to meet at a CNN studio in Atlanta with no audience. Each candidate’s microphone will be muted, except when it’s his turn to speak. No props or prewritten notes will be allowed onstage. The candidates will be given only a pen, a pad of paper and a bottle of water.

    There will be no opening statements. A coin flip determined that Biden would stand at the podium to the viewer’s right, while Trump would deliver the final closing statement.


    The next debate won’t be until September. Any stumbles Thursday will be hard to erase or replace quickly.………..

     
    But we have a process for this situation
    Yes, we do. If Biden were actually unfit, I have confidence that the process would play out appropriately. We know the process failed with Trump, and it failed spectacularly. That’s the difference between the two parties at this particular moment. The GOP is behaving like a cult of personality and the Democrats are behaving like an actual political party.

    Biden isn’t senile, he doesn’t have dementia. Your wishcasting won’t change the facts.
     
    The Heritage Foundation
    Made up of former Trump admin officials and future Trump admin officials. Ain’t gonna be no more serious public servants like Gen Kelly and Dan Coats in the next Trump Admin. It’s gonna be extremists all the way and they will reach down into the non-partisan civil service and put partisan boot lickers in those jobs too.
     
    It's kinda there...
    And it would get exponentially worse IMO. I firmly believe Trump wants Biden out, and really wants to run against Harris or someone else less well known. Seeing the way the press is currently running with multiple one-anonymous-source stories about Biden and won’t touch Trump about court documents released this week that show his extensive relationship with Epstein just makes me more determined to support Biden. I’ve heard enough from him to realize that he’s essentially unchanged in the last six months. I don’t know if he could make it entirely through a second term, but if not I’m fine with Harris.

    Changing the ticket now is political suicide, and should only be done in the direst of circumstances. We’re not there yet. And while I don’t really put much stock in polls, the trend line for Biden has been generally up.

    Trump is actually hiding. He won’t do the type of interview that Biden just did with ABC. Why isn’t the press hounding him to do one? Biden works until 7 every night, and still performs his evening duties as they come up. He talks to people unscripted every single day. I wish he would do some fireside chats directly to the people or a town hall. But Trump won’t do those either.

    It’s pie-in-the-sky thinking that we could have Biden step aside and everyone would unite behind Harris.

    Mark Warner, from what I read, was in serious contention for VP when Biden got chosen by Obama. I think he has sour grapes.

    Sorry, GA, I threw a bunch of kind of random thoughts in there. They aren’t meant to be addressed to you specifically. 🙂
     
    Ted Lieu called out misinformation on Xitter. So either Lieu is lying (which would be easy for others to call out), Yashar Ali is passing along bad info, or he’s ****-stirring.

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    I blocked Ali a while ago, I don’t think he’s credible, FWIW.
     
    It's kinda there...

    I don't want to be pushy but I curious, what will your avatar be now that you've appeared to have tossed Biden into the trash????

    Cheeky me would suggest this one, Mike Wazowski:

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    This video clip drives that suggestion home:



    Do you have a green eye?
     
    I'm wondering who this is Ai is, however based upon comments I'm likely to be glad that I'm not aware of who they are.

    As is obvious, I don't know their personal chosen pronouns either.
     
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    If that’s so, I wonder what the conspiracy theory about that decision will be? 🙄
    Yeah it will be interesting. I’m hoping it means that cooler heads have prevailed within the party.

    Also, I saw countless posts from women on Twitter publishing Warner’s office phone, and suggesting everyone call him to tell him to stop it, lol.
     
    Interesting.



    I did see a tweet referenced on Threads a day or two ago that was intriguing.

    “Following the report, author Don Winslow took to X, formerly Twitter, on Friday to post a cryptic message addressing Warner.

    "Dear @MarkWarner. Are you sure you want to go down this road? You definitely know what I'm talking about. Think about it very carefully," he wrote.”

     

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