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    Saint by the Bay said:
    You're in Alabama. Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have very different economic situations than most of the rest of the country. It's why they are the poorest and least educated states in the Union, consistently. I don't think we should be judging the State of the Union by those three states. If we do we are in a dire situation indeed, and have been for decades.

    Texas small businesses have mostly shrugged off Covid with the exception of newly opened small family-owned restaurants that got hammered in 2020. The established ones did OK.
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    I was sharing my lived experiences but I guess since I live among the dregs of our country in these horrible, dumb states, I don't get to present my thoughts?
    Funny how Texas, run by Reps and didn't go into the 'forever lock down, that businesses are doing better than most states. That is telling, no?
     
    Farb said:
    I was sharing my lived experiences but I guess since I live among the dregs of our country in these horrible, dumb states, I don't get to present my thoughts?
    Funny how Texas, run by Reps and didn't go into the 'forever lock down, that businesses are doing better than most states. That is telling, no?
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    Which particular areas of Texas drive its economy?
     
    Farb said:
    I was sharing my lived experiences but I guess since I live among the dregs of our country in these horrible, dumb states, I don't get to present my thoughts?
    Funny how Texas, run by Reps and didn't go into the 'forever lock down, that businesses are doing better than most states. That is telling, no?
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    We had the same amount of lock downs in Texas as most states did. The governor just went had on a stupid anti-masking campaign last year.
     
    Farb said:
    I disagree with you. I think as Americans we should have a large, healthy distrust of politicians.

    I do hate both parties. I will be honest and say that values and morals of the Reps tend to fit my beliefs more lately (Remember, I was what I would call a moderate liberal before socialism became the rage for the Ds). That being said the VAST majority of Rep politicians working for themselves (the party). Both parties are dance partners and we as stupid voters cheer on each side like it is a 'real houswives' show.
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    Well I actually didn't say that we shouldn't. I agree that we should - though maybe for different reasons than yourself. An important thing to note is that a huge portion of the left DOES distrust the government. They just don't want to burn it to the ground, but instead make it work for the people because of the realization that there will always be those less fortunate in society.

    I think that from having lived in this country all my life - I can identify that corporate greed is its downfall.
    Socialism most certainly is not the rage for the Democrats as most don't support even the extremely watered down 'social democracy' model, which is what
    most of the actual left - read, NOT mainline Democrats (Republicans in other countries like UK), want. Due to aforementioned greed, I see changes that need to be made systemically, not just incrementalism until the end of time like both parties seem to love to keep from rocking the boat.

    So I have a much more leftward view of where I'd like the party to be - but that won't happen anytime soon. I don't agree that 'neither' is necessarily good - because to what I've noticed, that usually goes something like the phrase "most people aren't right or left but in the middle", which I find to be dumbfounding because the 'middle' is what both parties have established. A lack of demanding from our government. An individualistic attitude that leads to hate of government for hate's sake instead of actually working to change it or changing the status quo.

    I only vote Democratic because they most align with my morals. I think they take scientific issues much more seriously than Republicans do, and I gauge that based on the relative impact to human and non-human life. So on issues that I do see as being a danger to life - climate change, public health (pandemics, basic health rights as a US citizen, nutrition and well-being for young and elderly, etc) the Democrats do a much better job whereas the Republicans are still keen on the 'tough luck, let the market decide' and, more recently - 'science is fake news' model, which i find irresponsible and just childish.

    Anyway, sorry for the wall of text. I think we agree on distrust of government (should always be held accountable as with any position of greater power)
     
    Farb said:
    You just said you don't care about popularity polls but then a positive (which I appreciate you can find some with this administration) how we are respected internationally. Is that not popularity?

    The country is doing much better? What country are you referring to?
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    I want our country to be respected and act responsibly. I don't care about opinion polls, because most Americans are too easily swayed by trivialities and short term interest, instead of what's best in the long term.

    As far as this country unemployment is down, wages are rising, vaccination rates are improving, we don't have a petulant child leading the country, we are getting more progressive judges, we are working with democratic allies rather than authoritarians, we ended a war, we are led by people that respect science and facts, to name a few things. This administration is light years better than the Trump administration, but there is room to improve.
     
    Lapaz said:
    I want our country to be respected and act responsibly. I don't care about opinion polls, because most Americans are too easily swayed by trivialities and short term interest, instead of what's best in the long term.

    As far as this country unemployment is down, wages are rising, vaccination rates are improving, we don't have a petulant child leading the country, we are getting more progressive judges, we are working with democratic allies rather than authoritarians, we ended a war, we are led by people that respect science and facts, to name a few things. This administration is light years better than the Trump administration, but there is room to improve.
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    I would suggest going outside and checking things out. I would hardly say we are 'light years' ahead of anything.

    Also, we are a laughing stock, mainly to our enemies. Their military build up is proof in the pudding.

    Unemployment? A houseplant could raise unemployment in an economy that was the most robust we have ever seen and then shut down in a global pandemic. Same with economic growth. When you can go down, nothing to do but go up.
     
    Farb said:
    I was sharing my lived experiences but I guess since I live among the dregs of our country in these horrible, dumb states, I don't get to present my thoughts?
    Funny how Texas, run by Reps and didn't go into the 'forever lock down, that businesses are doing better than most states. That is telling, no?
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    You tend to jump immediately into the victim pool, and right into the deep end, every single time. I can really see why grievance populism is so appealing to you. I never said anything about the dregs of society. We were talking about the economy for small businesses and I pointed out, accurately, that the poorest states in the union aren't a good barometer for the national state of things. Most of us here are from one of those three states, so what happens there matters to us. Stop being so sensitive.

    Texas has its own problems, including one of the highest COVID infection and death rates in the nation. We prioritized money over life here and the results were to be expected. Some like it, some don't.
     
    Farb said:
    Why? Because they don't align with your religious beliefs? That seems very 'un-american'

    Again, show me someone, anyone that was prevented from voting by law........

    If you cant see, with rational eyes that this virus has been politicized, then maybe we should agree to disagree because you are brain washed just as much as I am, just on the other extreme.
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    You don’t know anything about my religious beliefs, as I haven’t discussed them.

    Your demand to show someone who was prevented from voting is not a valid way to look at the issue. Georgia, for one example, purged the voting rolls of over one hundred thousand voters right before the election for Governor. Kemp, who was the R candidate, oversaw the purge, which largely affected POC (this was the plan, IMO). In GA and other states controlled by Rs, they purge the voting rolls often, even if they have zero evidence that the person has moved. Sometimes, people do not receive the notification and have no idea they’ve lost their right to vote until they show up on Election Day. As one veteran put it - “I pay my taxes every year, I pay property taxes every year. The state knows I still live in the same place. I shouldn’t have been purged and lost my right to vote.”

    Another way to discourage POC from voting is to simply make it nearly impossible logistically. For example:

    “News reports indicated that Milwaukee, the most diverse city in a largely white state, had reduced its usual 180 polling sites to just five. Covid-19 has exposed serious problems in our election systems, and it has made the need for reform urgent. Voters of color and demographically changing communities all across the country already knew this, though. As this report details, Black and Latino Americans face longer wait times on Election Day than white voters. In the past, long wait times were disruptive and disenfranchising. In the middle of a pandemic, they could also be deadly.

    Though completed before the eruption of the coronavirus, this report is even more critical now because it provides information regarding community needs as well as mistakes commonly made in planning for and staffing in-person voting. While the risk of Covid-19 will no doubt move more voters to cast their ballots by mail, some communities — more typically communities of color rely on polling places. We must make sure that there are in-person options, and that they have enough of the right kinds of resources.”

    From the Brennan Center for Justice’s report on voting rights. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/waiting-vote

    Here is a paper done by economists about how long people had to wait to vote in 2016, broken down by race:

    “Equal access to voting is a core feature of democratic government. Using data from hundreds of thousands of smartphone users, we quantify a racial disparity in voting wait times across a nationwide sample of polling places during the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Relative to entirely-white neighborhoods, residents of entirely-black neighborhoods waited 29% longer to vote and were 74% more likely to spend more than 30 minutes at their polling place. This disparity holds when comparing predominantly white and black polling places within the same states and counties, and survives numerous robustness and placebo tests. We shed light on the mechanism for these results and discuss how geospatial data can be an effective tool to both measure and monitor these disparities going forward.”

    www.nber.org

    Racial Disparities in Voting Wait Times: Evidence from Smartphone Data

    Founded in 1920, the NBER is a private, non-profit, non-partisan organization dedicated to conducting economic research and to disseminating research findings among academics, public policy makers, and business professionals.
    www.nber.org www.nber.org

    POC are not being barred from voting as they were in the Jim Crow South, but they are being discouraged nevertheless these days. Just in subtler ways. In general, wait times to vote are longer in states controlled by Rs and voting is made more difficult. It shouldn’t matter who controls the state bureaucracy, it should be made available and convenient for everyone.
     
    wardorican said:
    If anything, he took it really well and had fun with it. Was actually somewhat witty and funny about it. Feel bad for his mom though....
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    If anything, he took it well so he could keep those press credentials that get him access to the WH press pool. Anyone actually seen the video or heard the audio of Biden saying this? As of right now, it appears we're going off "Someone said Biden said," being reported on Fox as news.

    LOLOL. I like Biden.

     
    Heathen said:
    Selective outrage

    I thought it was just “locker room talk”?

    Someone help me understand these mental gymnasts
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    This is just Biden being who he's always been. When we were first introduced to candidate Trump, Biden said he'd like to meet him out behind the gym or something like that. And that was a great answer to such a stupid forking question. What a stupid son of a birch for even asking it.
     
    I like it, a return to normalcy and all that.
     

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