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[Farb]

For all the things related to the Biden/Harris Administration and their latest hits and misses

https://www.dailywire.com/news/whit...gedly-sexually-harassing-threatening-reporter

Interesting story, looks like 'only the best people' didn't stop with the new administration.

 

[samiam5211]

I feel better.

Yea, Old Grandpa Joe should have said quite a few things differently than he did yesterday.

I don't like the way he treats the media. He shouldn't be berating reporters, he should be dodging questions like the presidents did before Trump normalized responding to questions by attacking the questioner.

 

[Lapaz]

Out of curiosity, what is the 'consequence' that you see to letting all people - regardless of status as prisoner or not, vote?

I think anyone who has served his time in prison should get their vote back, however I don't agree with allowing people in prison to vote. Those in prison have a conflict of interest, because they don't have as much to lose, could vote for people that will free them, generally have demonstrated immaturity and have shown a disrespect for society's laws. I think it is fair to deny them the vote while they are still serving their penance, but after they've served their time, then they should be allowed to participate in society normally. It could be argued that people that have been penalized by society may appreciate it more than those that haven't had such experiences. The only exception that I would make to granting the right to vote is for someone that has been convicted of treason, because they have shown a willingness to hurt society.

 

[Lapaz]

The harm? You have stupid people vote. Stupid people make stupid decisions. If you have no idea how this government works, should you have a say on how to run it?

Do you think gerrymandering is a bi-partisan issue? I do. To say one side uses it more is just lazy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/nyregion/congress-redistricting-ny.html

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...ink-as-democrats-push-gerrymandered-maps?rl=1

The real problem with voting is we let anyone vote and we want more to vote.

Can we agree that gerrymandering is bad, regardless of which side does it? It only creates safe districts and disenfranchises the minority opinions of that area. It strengthens the extremes. Do you agree?

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

You are right. I don't know for sure what the agenda is, I know what I think it is and what I think it is, is that they state wants all the power and wants us, as citizens, completely reliant on the state.
Stoke the fear to unreasonable levels, promise the solution if you submit and when some don't submit, make the them the 'others' in order coerce the 'others' to do what the state wants. Destroy the ability to make a living without the state being involved and ship all industry and business to the large corporations that are much easier to control by the state, until they control the state.

Do you want a tinfoil hat, I have some extra?

You rattled off some wacky conspiracy theory about some cohesive plan amongst Democrats to ensure the State controls everything and ask someone else if they want a tinfoil hat?

Is this really what you believe? If so, you are too easy a mark for Ben Shapiro and the other right-wing grifters. This is high-fantasy, even for you.

 

[Lapaz]

I stand correct. He is doing a great job for the country. Everyone besides 67% of the country think so.

I don't care about popularity polls. I think Biden is doing fine. He has a razor thin majority in congress, and yet has passed some significant legislation. The country is doing much better, and is more respected. The polls largely reflect that he is getting bashed by both the left and right media. The left due to unreasonable expectations, partly due to Biden overselling what he could accomplish, and the right, because they are insane, cruel or greedy. The overselling by Biden was needed to get elected. My main hope is that Biden passes some voting protections to maintain Democracy. If he manages that, then I I think he will accomplish much of what he campaigned upon. That probably will not be enough for much of the left, because they are too impatient, which may hurt his chances of getting re-elected, although I don't think he'll actually run again.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

I think voting should treated as a privledge. I don't think every person should vote. I get a lot of grief for this from you guys and conservatives as well.

How would you screen people out?

 

[Heathen]

I think anyone who has served his time in prison should get their vote back, however I don't agree with allowing people in prison to vote. Those in prison have a conflict of interest, because they don't have as much to lose, could vote for people that will free them, generally have demonstrated immaturity and have shown a disrespect for society's laws. I think it is fair to deny them the vote while they are still serving their penance, but after they've served their time, then they should be allowed to participate in society normally. It could be argued that people that have been penalized by society may appreciate it more than those that haven't had such experiences. The only exception that I would make to granting the right to vote is for someone that has been convicted of treason, because they have shown a willingness to hurt society.

I really do not think that 'voting for people who would free them' is a realistic reason. Folks aren't campaigning to let people out of prison en masse from either party.

I do not believe someone should get worse health care, mental care, vote or otherwise while in prison. Much less take anyone's life away. You see many countries where prison is more of a rehabilitation than it is the very American 'eye for an eye' model and obsession with making those in prison miserable. If someone gets out of prison eventually - do we want them to be good human beings? I think we'd all want that.

I fully agree in suitable confinement sentences as sure as anyone else does - but what I do not agree with is treating someone who is no threat to the outside world in an inhumane or lesser way, at least to the extent that they have interaction with said society in the genuine observance that they are likely a threat to others' lives.

 

[Heathen]

Do you want SkyNet? Because this how you get SkyNet.

I don't agree with your 'government is bad always and forever amen' narrative, but out of curiosity, do you hate both political parties?

Where do your allegiances lie, if any? I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours

 

[MT15]

I don’t have time, but Farb needs push back for his numerous false statements in this thread. He posts a speculative story from Washington Examiner as “proof” that there is a Democratic conspiracy to politicize the virus. He repeatedly says that POC are not prevented from voting by Jim Crow-like measures put in place where Republicans control voting. These are documented.

Plus, he calls democrats authoritarian while maintaining the simply un-American and very authoritarian position that voting isn’t a right of citizenship and should be restricted (presumably to suit his own preferences).

His positions are ridiculous.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Maybe, maybe not. I know I had to 3 new neighbors in the vacant store next to mine. They stocked the store, minimally, never opened and moved out after about 6 months. From what I understand from one owner, granted, I only talked to him so no idea what the happened to the others, he was opening to take advantage of some type of federal money for minority business start ups.

That is only one example but the reality I see everyday in my area is vastly different than those posted in the article.

You're in Alabama. Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have very different economic situations than most of the rest of the country. It's why they are the poorest and least educated states in the Union, consistently. I don't think we should be judging the State of the Union by those three states. If we do we are in a dire situation indeed, and have been for decades.

Texas small businesses have mostly shrugged off Covid with the exception of newly opened small family-owned restaurants that got hammered in 2020. The established ones did OK.

 

[Farb]

Can we agree that gerrymandering is bad, regardless of which side does it? It only creates safe districts and disenfranchises the minority opinions of that area. It strengthens the extremes. Do you agree?

I do. I also think it should be outlawed, but that will require congress to do their jobs. The real problem will be what map do we have when we outlaw it. You know these idiots on both sides will never agree to what is equal and fair.

 

[Farb]

You rattled off some wacky conspiracy theory about some cohesive plan amongst Democrats to ensure the State controls everything and ask someone else if they want a tinfoil hat?

Is this really what you believe? If so, you are too easy a mark for Ben Shapiro and the other right-wing grifters. This is high-fantasy, even for you.

Yes, that is actually what I believe.

So, put you as 'no' for the order on tinfoil hats?

 

[brandon]

The harm? You have stupid people vote. Stupid people make stupid decisions. If you have no idea how this government works, should you have a say on how to run it?

I think you're stupid.

Doesn't really matter if you are or not. I think you're stupid, so I'm going to pass laws so you can't vote.

You say "hey wait a minute, I'm not stupid! I should get to vote!"

But you're not the arbiter of stupid. I am. Sorry.

 

[Farb]

I don't care about popularity polls. I think Biden is doing fine. He has a razor thin majority in congress, and yet has passed some significant legislation. The country is doing much better, and is more respected. The polls largely reflect that he is getting bashed by both the left and right media. The left due to unreasonable expectations, partly due to Biden overselling what he could accomplish, and the right, because they are insane, cruel or greedy. The overselling by Biden was needed to get elected. My main hope is that Biden passes some voting protections to maintain Democracy. If he manages that, then I I think he will accomplish much of what he campaigned upon. That probably will not be enough for much of the left, because they are too impatient, which may hurt his chances of getting re-elected, although I don't think he'll actually run again.

You just said you don't care about popularity polls but then a positive (which I appreciate you can find some with this administration) how we are respected internationally. Is that not popularity?

The country is doing much better? What country are you referring to?

 

[Farb]

How would you screen people out?

I would begin by a simple 4th grade level civics test.

 

[Farb]

I don't agree with your 'government is bad always and forever amen' narrative, but out of curiosity, do you hate both political parties?

Where do your allegiances lie, if any? I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours

I disagree with you. I think as Americans we should have a large, healthy distrust of politicians.

I do hate both parties. I will be honest and say that values and morals of the Reps tend to fit my beliefs more lately (Remember, I was what I would call a moderate liberal before socialism became the rage for the Ds). That being said the VAST majority of Rep politicians working for themselves (the party). Both parties are dance partners and we as stupid voters cheer on each side like it is a 'real houswives' show.

 

[brandon]

I would begin by a simple 4th grade level civics test.

I think too many of your buddies would pass the 4th grade civics test.

However, I'm fairly certain the pendulum swings my way if we bump that up to a graduate-level analysis of American history. So I think we should start there.

Why stop at just weeding out the stupid voters? Let's go for the gold and only allow our smartest citizens to vote. Seems like a good idea, right?

 

[Farb]

I don’t have time, but Farb needs push back for his numerous false statements in this thread. He posts a speculative story from Washington Examiner as “proof” that there is a Democratic conspiracy to politicize the virus. He repeatedly says that POC are not prevented from voting by Jim Crow-like measures put in place where Republicans control voting. These are documented.

Plus, he calls democrats authoritarian while maintaining the simply un-American and very authoritarian position that voting isn’t a right of citizenship and should be restricted (presumably to suit his own preferences).

His positions are ridiculous.

Why? Because they don't align with your religious beliefs? That seems very 'un-american'

Again, show me someone, anyone that was prevented from voting by law........

If you cant see, with rational eyes that this virus has been politicized, then maybe we should agree to disagree because you are brain washed just as much as I am, just on the other extreme.