Biden Tracker (3 Viewers)

[Farb]

For all the things related to the Biden/Harris Administration and their latest hits and misses

https://www.dailywire.com/news/whit...gedly-sexually-harassing-threatening-reporter

Interesting story, looks like 'only the best people' didn't stop with the new administration.

 

[coldseat]

The voting rights legislation was originally part of the original BBB package, wasn't it?

(It's really kind of pathetic that in 2021 we are still having to pass legislation to ensure the right for everyone to vote and have their vote count the same as everyone else's.)

I don't believe so. Voting rights was always going to either require 60 votes or some adjustment to the filibuster since it's not a budgetary move and can't be passed through reconciliation.

 

[coldseat]

Can you show me someone that wanted to vote and could not? Serious question

Most of the voting laws that were changed in state legislatures as a result of the election lies and Trump Republicans won't take effect until this years midterms. But there's no hiding the fact that all of the laws put in place were done so to restrict access to voting. And they were all fueled by the big lie and extremist Republicans trying to placate their constituencies rabid anger.

 

[insidejob]

Can you show me someone that wanted to vote and could not? Serious question

Yes. Thousands and thousands of ex-felons who have served their sentences and never had their right to vote restored. Or how about the thousands of people who have been removed from the rolls unbeknownst to them until they show up to vote and then it's too late? Do they count? I know OH started removing voters from the rolls if they haven't voted in a certain number of consecutive federal elections and that other states copied the idea and started attempting it too.

 

[insidejob]

I don't believe so. Voting rights was always going to either require 60 votes or some adjustment to the filibuster since it's not a budgetary move and can't be passed through reconciliation.

Makes sense. I know the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill was written before BBB was a thing, I just thought that it got lumped in with the BBB once Biden was elected.

 

[bdb13]

Do you feel the same way about voting rights legislation?

I'd say I should know more about what's in the bill than I currently do, and everything revolving around the issue itself honestly (I think it was Georgia that basically now set it up to where it can be thrown back to their legislatures to overturn the vote?), and that's on me. I can't really give a very informed opinion right now other than to say that I'll learn more and have a better answer but also that I'm probably not alone in having more or less checked out on a lot of this, especially in the time since everything's just turned into a big stalemate.

 

[SFIDC3]

and have their vote count the same as everyone else's.

Oh, nobody told me they abolished the EC....that's great news!!!!!!

 

[Farb]

Yes. Thousands and thousands of ex-felons who have served their sentences and never had their right to vote restored. Or how about the thousands of people who have been removed from the rolls unbeknownst to them until they show up to vote and then it's too late? Do they count? I know OH started removing voters from the rolls if they haven't voted in a certain number of consecutive federal elections and that other states copied the idea and started attempting it too.

You missed the point of 'wanted to' vote as well. Lots of illegal aliens want to vote as well but we don't use those as being examples of disenfranchised. why?
You saying ex-felons wanted to vote and could not in a state that would normally allow them to vote or was the ex-felon thing the cause for not getting vote?
Out of those thousands, you should be able to provide a couple of examples, I am sure they are on CNN right as an example? Seem like if they wanted to vote, they would have voted in the past? Do you not check your voting status before each election? I do when I am seeing where to go to vote.

You confusing not being allowed to vote to not putting in any effort. I know our society expects everything to handed to you and when it is not, it is violence but if you are allowed to vote in this country, you can vote. It might not be a spa day for you, but you can vote.

 

[insidejob]

You missed the point of 'wanted to' vote as well. Lots of illegal aliens want to vote as well but we don't use those as being examples of disenfranchised. why?
You saying ex-felons wanted to vote and could not in a state that would normally allow them to vote or was the ex-felon thing the cause for not getting vote?
Out of those thousands, you should be able to provide a couple of examples, I am sure they are on CNN right as an example? Seem like if they wanted to vote, they would have voted in the past? Do you not check your voting status before each election? I do when I am seeing where to go to vote.

You confusing not being allowed to vote to not putting in any effort. I know our society expects everything to handed to you and when it is not, it is violence but if you are allowed to vote in this country, you can vote. It might not be a spa day for you, but you can vote.

I don't need CNN for an example. I am one. I also helped dozens of people get their right to vote back through volunteering with V.O.T.E. (Voice Of The Ex-Offender). I completed the terms of my probation, and it took them 3 years after that before I was allowed to register again. Three years because the court system is so backlogged and Probation and Parole so incompetent. Not to mention the push to make it so ex-felons can't get their right to vote back by the GOP. If I didn't have an attorney friend help me with all of the filings I had to do to get my right back, it would have cost me thousands of dollars in attorney's fees as well. It still cost me $500 to do it on my own.

Why would I need to check where to go vote? It's not like it's changed since I was born.

So, sorry you don't like the example of what you asked for but you moving the goal posts is no surprise.

 

[Lapaz]

How often do they let this guy in front of cameras or take questions? There is a reason they keep him watching TV and eating ice cream.

That's pure nonsense. Biden has had less formal press conferences than Trump, but he has had many more informal press conferences. Biden is on TV a lot, and it is with substantive material, not lies and distortions. Not saying that Biden doesn't prevaricate or embellish sometimes, but it isn't a continuous stream of nonsense.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

It might not be a spa day for you, but you can vote.

Do you find it odd that most every other western nation makes it way more easier to vote, aka 'a spa day,' than the United States?

 

[coldseat]

You missed the point of 'wanted to' vote as well. Lots of illegal aliens want to vote as well but we don't use those as being examples of disenfranchised. why?
You saying ex-felons wanted to vote and could not in a state that would normally allow them to vote or was the ex-felon thing the cause for not getting vote?
Out of those thousands, you should be able to provide a couple of examples, I am sure they are on CNN right as an example? Seem like if they wanted to vote, they would have voted in the past? Do you not check your voting status before each election? I do when I am seeing where to go to vote.

You confusing not being allowed to vote to not putting in any effort. I know our society expects everything to handed to you and when it is not, it is violence but if you are allowed to vote in this country, you can vote. It might not be a spa day for you, but you can vote.

Why does voting need to be difficult or hard? Why can't it be like the last election, easier and secure, so that more eligible voters participate?

 

[MT15]

Because Rs have abandoned democracy, that’s why. They don’t want everyone who is eligible to vote, they only want Rs to be able to vote. They want autocracy.

 

[Heathen]

You missed the 4 years of the Trump Tracker, uh?

No, I’ve been here a while. I don’t miss the 4 years of incessant, increasingly incoherent rambles on Twitter from Trump though.

 

[insidejob]

No, I’ve been here a while. I don’t miss the 4 years of incessant, increasingly incoherent rambles on Twitter from Trump though.

I miss the early days of it when he was pretty much making his own fat arse target practice for the American public every time he tweeted something, but it certainly got old quick.

 

[Farb]

I don't need CNN for an example. I am one. I also helped dozens of people get their right to vote back through volunteering with V.O.T.E. (Voice Of The Ex-Offender). I completed the terms of my probation, and it took them 3 years after that before I was allowed to register again. Three years because the court system is so backlogged and Probation and Parole so incompetent. Not to mention the push to make it so ex-felons can't get their right to vote back by the GOP. If I didn't have an attorney friend help me with all of the filings I had to do to get my right back, it would have cost me thousands of dollars in attorney's fees as well. It still cost me $500 to do it on my own.

Why would I need to check where to go vote? It's not like it's changed since I was born.

So, sorry you don't like the example of what you asked for but you moving the goal posts is no surprise.

No reason to apologize. I appreciate that fact that there are hurdles to pass through to vote. I personally don't think voting is a 'right'. It does depend on your state though so if you are going to commit a felony and want to be able to vote, move to a state that does not take away that right while in prison.
I agree the court system and probation/parole are a joke and need massive overhauls. I just don't think felon voting rights are a key driver for that. IMO
Any, you can vote now, so congrats. That proves it is possible.
So besides, convicted felons and in those particular states, anyone else illegally prohibited to voting. On the scale for federalized elections?

 

[Farb]

That's pure nonsense. Biden has had less formal press conferences than Trump, but he has had many more informal press conferences. Biden is on TV a lot, and it is with substantive material, not lies and distortions. Not saying that Biden doesn't prevaricate or embellish sometimes, but it isn't a continuous stream of nonsense.

How many formal w/ open questions has he had?

 

[Farb]

Do you find it odd that most every other western nation makes it way more easier to vote, aka 'a spa day,' than the United States?

I think voting should treated as a privledge. I don't think every person should vote. I get a lot of grief for this from you guys and conservatives as well.

 

[Farb]

Because Rs have abandoned democracy, that’s why. They don’t want everyone who is eligible to vote, they only want Rs to be able to vote. They want autocracy.

Can you show me law that is proposed or on the books that stops anyone, without cause, from voting?
You guys want to use the 'pandemic' as a forever excuse to send mail out ballots to homes that didn't request them. So I don't want anyone to vote and you want everyone to vote. There has to be middle ground.