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    He actually is fine, and will be your president again, most likely, so you may as well get used to it.

    At least he knows they are Hamas and not Hummus, which is what Trump calls them.
    I would think that Trump hasn't had much hummus, what with the supply change issues we've been suddenly having.
     
    It's just his stutter.
    That was just temporarily losing a word. Something that everyone does. It’s not a sign of cognitive decline.

    Actually, for someone so “impaired” he seems to get the better of the Rs in the House regularly.
     
    That was just temporarily losing a word. Something that everyone does. It’s not a sign of cognitive decline.

    Actually, for someone so “impaired” he seems to get the better of the Rs in the House regularly.
    It's his dementia and it's definitely a sign of cognitive decline.
     
    More lies. You should know better if you actually work in healthcare like you claimed you do. Maybe you should look up dementia, because this isn’t it.
    SFL has no answer for this. Because the dementia claim is an outright lie from someone who should know better. It’s insulting to anyone who has actually dealt with a loved one who has dementia because it trivializes it. SFL probably says it because it’s a MAGA talking point. One with zero evidence behind it BTW, but that doesn’t matter to the cult.

    See, for MAGA nothing matters except their hate for anyone who opposes Trump. They will lie about and smear anyone who opposes Trump. They will phone bomb or death threats to anyone who they perceive as a threat and several have taken up guns or hammers and attempted to kill people. MAGA is a dangerous movement that sees violence as a legitimate means to an end.
     
    It's his dementia and it's definitely a sign of cognitive decline.
    So, if him (who has a well-documented speech impediment) losing a particular word is "definitely a sign of cognitive decline," you would agree that Trump's repeated verbal failures of late means he should be in a hospital somewhere under constant care, right? I mean, going from memory, over the past few months, Trump:
    --Thought Nikki Haley was in charge of Capitol Security on Jan 6.
    --Spoke for several seconds about debanking, political beliefs, taking away your rights, taking away your country, all electric cars, and did not make a single actual understandable point during any of it (while he was reading from a teleprompter)
    --Said goodnight and thanked the people of the wrong town.
    --Said Biden would plunge us into World War 2.
    --Said that in 2016, everyone thought that Bush was going to win because he got us into the middle east
    --Said that Viktor Orban was the prime minister of Turkey
    --Said that he beat Obama in 2016.
     
    The problem is that food, energy, rent and out of pocket healthcare costs have increased at a higher rate than other goods and services and they continue to creep upwards on the whole, even as overall inflation eases.

    Anxiety about food, energy, rent and out of pocket healthcare costs creates the most anxiety and stress when it comes to cost of living. The less money you have, the harder the impact that the rising costs of food, energy, rent and out of pocket healthcare costs has on people.

    While its true that many Americans are doing well and seeing their invests grow, many many more Americans can't afford investments and struggle to be able to afford food, energy, rent and out of pocket healthcare costs. And a whole lot more know that the slightest unexpected expense could shift them from having just enough to not having enough to cover food, energy, rent and out of pocket healthcare costs.

    If one wants to understand the financial worries that most Americans are facing, one has to stop assuming that everyone is in the same financial position that one is. I even see it on this board. A lot of people here assume that their financial situation is typical of most Americans, when in fact they are in a much better financial situation than most Americans.

    So far the Biden campaign is making the same mistake while Trump and MAGA politicians are preying on the financial struggles of Americans.

    The typical response to someone pointing this out is derisive disagreement. I don't expect that to change. The Biden campaign typically responds the same way.

    For a person who's baked "empathy" into his brand, the Biden campaign shows very little empathy for people who are truly struggling worse now than they were before. They are more dismissive than empathic on this issue and most of his supporters are right there with him in deriding anyone who dares to say they are having harder time now than they were before.
    We re going to have to agree to disagree.

    However there are a few things that needs to be addressed, and I wouldn't have replied had you not described our exchange as derisive.

    When we first started I stressed that we cannot go by feelings when judging the economy. That we can only objectively judge it, as has been done since fdr, via economic indicators. What you did next was to brand my opinion as out of touch and irrelevant by posing to the forum when was the last time the wealth gap narrowed. You didn't ask me directly, nor did you make a link that the wealth gap was biden's responsibility...or any source for his criticism. I pointed this out that perhaps you were misdirecting your criticism. After, without really reading what I said, accused me of favoring trickle down economics based on a snippet of my argument. To make matters worse, you accuse me again as you are doing here, of being out of touch because I am not struggling economically. That the only reason I have my opinion is because I'm not struggling.

    Well, first off, I have intentionally not made public my background but once that I can recall. That was that I grew up in poverty, extreme poverty in fact, and with shear luck and family dynamics, we all achieved advanced degrees. You don't know my background, yet you presume because I may be well off, that my opinion is warped...that I am detached from Americans suffering. You don't know what I have endured or my current state, and you definitely don't know my appreciation of someone else suffering.

    But that is the point of my argument isn't it? To strip away an individual's perception but judge objectively, as we have done. I had even linked an npr article referencing the gap in perception between a gop pres and dem president. That's apparently ignored.

    Further, perception is difficult to measure. One can ask a family head of a household with $1000 in their savings, and they can say it's not bad since they have grown used to managing their budget. On the other hand, one can find a family with $500k in their savings and feel completely the opposite because they have multiple mortgages, kids piano lessons, etc. That's why economists like yellen stated there's a gap between perception and reality. That wage year over year is 4.5. Realize that obama's and trumps year didn't break 3...I may need to review that number. That inflation is down, that unemployment is well below what economists consider as full employment.

    And sincerely, I searched at the time for biden's remarks. I did not find any, and it can just be my perception? As a matter of fact, (I cannot find that article again), jean-pierre did make a comment. She admits that there are Americans struggling, and she is troubled by that. However, the economy does have positive signs and she sells that as do any press secretary. This was back in Dec I believe.
     
    How many...many....many examples have you and I discussed in the last year?
    It is not something isolated....it's too frequent for the President of the United States.
    If the head manager of my local Walmart...fine.
    Not the President of the USA.
    It's unacceptable @MT15
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    Here is something from left leaning NBC News...
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    We re going to have to agree to disagree.
    It's a choice we don't have to.

    ... I wouldn't have replied had you not described our exchange as derisive.
    Dude, really? I had completely forgotten about our exchange and you. I was not thinking or talking about you at all, and now for a little good-natured ribbing...

     
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden “willfully” retained and disclosed highly classified materials when he was a private citizen, including documents about military and foreign policy in Afghanistan and other sensitive national security matters, according to a Justice Department report that nonetheless says no criminal charges are warranted for him or anyone else.

    The report from special counsel Robert Hur, released Thursday, represents a harshly critical assessment of Biden’s handling of sensitive government materials, but also details the reasons why he should not be charged with the crime.

    The findings will likely blunt his ability to forcefully condemn Donald Trump, Biden’s likely opponent in November’s presidential election, over a criminal indictment charging the former president with illegally hoarding classified records at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

    “Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen,”Hur wrote.

    It came after a yearlong investigation into the improper retention of classified documents by Biden, from his time as a senator and as vice president, that were found at his Delaware home, as well as at a private office that he used in between his service in the Obama administration and becoming president.


    The investigation into Biden is separate from special counsel Jack Smith’s inquiry into the handling of classified documents by Trump after Trump left the White House. Smith’s team has charged Trump with illegally retaining top secret records at Mar-a-Lago home and then obstructing government efforts to get them back. Trump has said he did nothing wrong.

    After Biden’s lawyers uncovered classified documents at his former office, Biden’s representatives promptly contacted the National Archives to arrange their return to the government. The National Archives notified the FBI, which opened an investigation. Biden made his homes available to agents to conduct thorough searches, and that is how the most sensitive documents came to the attention of the Justice Department.

    Biden could not have been prosecuted as a sitting president, but Hur’s report states that he would not recommend charges against Biden regardless.


    “We would reach the same conclusion even if Department of Justice policy did not foreclose criminal charges against a sitting president,” the report said.…….


     
    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden “willfully” retained and disclosed highly classified materials when he was a private citizen, including documents about military and foreign policy in Afghanistan and other sensitive national security matters, according to a Justice Department report that nonetheless says no criminal charges are warranted for him or anyone else.

    The report from special counsel Robert Hur, released Thursday, represents a harshly critical assessment of Biden’s handling of sensitive government materials, but also details the reasons why he should not be charged with the crime.

    The findings will likely blunt his ability to forcefully condemn Donald Trump, Biden’s likely opponent in November’s presidential election, over a criminal indictment charging the former president with illegally hoarding classified records at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

    “Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen,”Hur wrote.

    It came after a yearlong investigation into the improper retention of classified documents by Biden, from his time as a senator and as vice president, that were found at his Delaware home, as well as at a private office that he used in between his service in the Obama administration and becoming president.


    The investigation into Biden is separate from special counsel Jack Smith’s inquiry into the handling of classified documents by Trump after Trump left the White House. Smith’s team has charged Trump with illegally retaining top secret records at Mar-a-Lago home and then obstructing government efforts to get them back. Trump has said he did nothing wrong.

    After Biden’s lawyers uncovered classified documents at his former office, Biden’s representatives promptly contacted the National Archives to arrange their return to the government. The National Archives notified the FBI, which opened an investigation. Biden made his homes available to agents to conduct thorough searches, and that is how the most sensitive documents came to the attention of the Justice Department.

    Biden could not have been prosecuted as a sitting president, but Hur’s report states that he would not recommend charges against Biden regardless.


    “We would reach the same conclusion even if Department of Justice policy did not foreclose criminal charges against a sitting president,” the report said.…….


    BS...If he disclosed info, I need to know the specifics and the reasoning for not charging him! I find this report to be pure BS and a further attempt to deteriorate standing laws.
     
    BS...If he disclosed info, I need to know the specifics and the reasoning for not charging him! I find this report to be pure BS and a further attempt to deteriorate standing laws.
    Just from the article it isn’t clear that he disclosed anything. The classified documents are his handwritten notebooks that he evidently referred to while working with a ghostwriter on his memoir. It never says he showed them to anyone. It does say they were kept unsecured in his house. It also says he was adamant during his interviews that those were his personal notes and belonged to him and that every president before has kept notes like this. I don’t know for sure about that, but I would assume he would know.

    I think he got bit by the tendency to over-classify stuff, which is widely acknowledged to be a problem.
     
    Just from the article it isn’t clear that he disclosed anything. The classified documents are his handwritten notebooks that he evidently referred to while working with a ghostwriter on his memoir. It never says he showed them to anyone. It does say they were kept unsecured in his house. It also says he was adamant during his interviews that those were his personal notes and belonged to him and that every president before has kept notes like this. I don’t know for sure about that, but I would assume he would know.

    I think he got bit by the tendency to over-classify stuff, which is widely acknowledged to be a problem.
    Ok, but then there's this lil nugget:
    “We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” investigators wrote.
    Really?
     
    Ok, but then there's this lil nugget:

    Really?
    So, I guess the Velveeta Vulgarian™️ would present himself as an angry, unlikeable, elderly schlitz head with a bad memory? Oh, wait, that is what he does every time he is questioned.

    And that reason being applied to Biden is a load of schlitz.
     
    Ok, but then there's this lil nugget:
    “We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” investigators wrote.
    Really?

    My take on that part. If my choices are:
    a) A man who struggles to remember some details about things that happened several years ago, but who was "well meaning" when he had documents stored at his home.
    --or--
    b) A man who intentionally, and knowingly, refused to return documents for a year and a half, ignored a subpoena for those documents, lied to the courts about those documents, obstructed efforts to retrieve those documents, and instructed others to lie about those documents.

    The choice seems pretty clear to me.
     

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