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[Farb]

For all the things related to the Biden/Harris Administration and their latest hits and misses

https://www.dailywire.com/news/whit...gedly-sexually-harassing-threatening-reporter

Interesting story, looks like 'only the best people' didn't stop with the new administration.

 

[MT15]

SC had their democratic primary? I thought it would be the same day as the R one.

 

[LA - L.A.]

SC had their democratic primary? I thought it would be the same day as the R one.

I've been checking, but I can find any turnout estimates yet. I think the level of turnout in South Carolina is going to be the most important indicator of the general election.

 

[MT15]

I've been checking, but I can find any turnout estimates yet. I think the level of turnout in South Carolina is going to be the most important indicator of the general election.

I saw that it was significantly higher than 2020. I will have to see if I can find that again.

Also, at least this one poll seems to have been way off.

 

[MT15]

What I saw was that black turnout was 13% higher than 2020. So I don’t know about total turnout. Something to consider, though, is that SC is an open primary state, and some Democrats plan to vote in the R primary against Trump.

 

[zztop]

and yet...

 

[MT15]

I saw an explainer on that NBC poll: it was weighted towards Republicans and older people. It’s almost like they were looking for a narrative and found the people they needed to get the result they were looking for.

Polling is horrible these days.

 

[MT15]

 

[zztop]

Polling is horrible these days.

I agree, but I also think there is [potentially] a messaging problem with the success they have had. Or, in other words, people SHOULD know better or have a better idea. I would also say theres a lot more that could be done (ideally, w/o republican obstructionists/Manchin/ Sinema etc) - but I understand the limitations currently.

 

[coldseat]

and yet...

If those polls are anywhere near accurate, people in the US are really stupid and getting dumber by the day.

That's the kind of distortion of reality that causes countries to completely fall apart.

 

[coldseat]

I agree, but I also think there is [potentially] a messaging problem with the success they have had. Or, in other words, people SHOULD know better or have a better idea. I would also say theres a lot more that could be done (ideally, w/o republican obstructionists/Manchin/ Sinema etc) - but I understand the limitations currently.

I'm tired of people blaming messaging. It's not messaging, it's something else entirely.

 

[zztop]

I'm tired of people blaming messaging. It's not messaging, it's something else entirely.

What could it be? Other than people being dumb people (your previous comment)

I am thinking theres a large portion of the population that doesn't really keep up on many political things... say like (I guess) most of us here on a political forum. We read articles etc. How much of the rest of the population goes out of their way? They might pick up a few things here and there.
Also, depends on the demographic I guess, where/how they get their info.

 

[coldseat]

What could it be? Other than people being dumb people (your previous comment)

I am thinking theres a large portion of the population that doesn't really keep up on many political things... say like (I guess) most of us here on a political forum. We read articles etc. How much of the rest of the population goes out of their way? They might pick up a few things here and there.
Also, depends on the demographic I guess, where/how they get their info.

I don't really know. I wish that I did so that it would all make sense.

I think for some it's an ingrained belief that Republicans are better for the economy because they take up the interest of business elites. But that's been around a long time, so it can't just be that. For a lot of people, it just seems like it's what they want to believe regardless of reality.

Whatever it is, it's a belief that facts, data and messaging are seemingly unable to penetrate and change.

 

[bird]

If those polls are anywhere near accurate, people in the US are really stupid and getting dumber by the day.

That's the kind of distortion of reality that causes countries to completely fall apart.

Yes and…yes.

 

[SaintForLife]

Washington — President Biden cruised to an easy victory Saturday in South Carolina's Democratic primary as the incumbent facing two long-shot candidates, winning about 96% of the vote. But for voters in the Palmetto State, which marked the beginning of the Democratic primary nominating calendar this year, turnout was exceedingly low.

South Carolina primary voter turnout for 2024
Around 131,000 South Carolinians voted in the 2024 Democratic primary, making up just around 4% of registered voters statewide. The showing marks the lowest turnout in the last few presidential primaries for Democrats, though those contests were notably more competitive.

How does 2024 South Carolina Democrat turnout compare to previous years?

Turnout for this year's Democratic primary fell well below previous contests. In 2020, 540,000 people — around 16% of voters — participated in the Democratic primary, while in 2016, 373,063 — more than 12% — did the same. In 2012, former President Barack Obama ran unopposed in the primary, but in 2008, 532,151 turned out, accounting for around 23% of registered voters, according to the South Carolina Election Commission.

South Carolina Democratic primary turnout for 2024 and how it compares to previous years

The showing marks the lowest turnout in the last few presidential primaries for Democrats. But the contest was far-less competitive.

www-cbsnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[zztop]

I don't really know. I wish that I did so that it would all make sense.

I think for some it's an ingrained belief that Republicans are better for the economy because they take up the interest of business elites. But that's been around a long time, so it can't just be that. For a lot of people, it just seems like it's what they want to believe regardless of reality.

Whatever it is, it's a belief that facts, data and messaging are seemingly unable to penetrate and change.

I gave this some thought today, in addition to the ingrained belief (I think you have a point there) here is my theory. Also note these numbers are made up, just used for generalization lol

So you have 3 groups of people (theres more than 3, but I am just using 3)

group 1: (R) that will hate ANYTHING he does, no matter what. Good,bad, up, down, left, right. All the same = they'll boo him for it - like Goodell on draft day

group 2: Lefties, which see things like avg minimum wage has not increased in 20-something years. Housing costs 300% more expensive vs 15 years ago, wealth consolidation (rich get richer etc)

group 3: Maybe the largest group. Lets call them the middle of the pack, avg joe -type of people. They don't pay too close attention to politics, what concerns them the most is how things affect/effect their every day life. They go to the store and see things like the price of eggs $1 more expensive than 2 years ago. Their insurance costs increase. Things like that. This is not necessarily all the president's fault, but they gotta put the fault somewhere or on someone.

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[LA - L.A.]

I agree, but I also think there is [potentially] a messaging problem with the success they have had. Or, in other words, people SHOULD know better or have a better idea. I would also say theres a lot more that could be done (ideally, w/o republican obstructionists/Manchin/ Sinema etc) - but I understand the limitations currently.

The problem is that food, energy, rent and out of pocket healthcare costs have increased at a higher rate than other goods and services and they continue to creep upwards on the whole, even as overall inflation eases.

Anxiety about food, energy, rent and out of pocket healthcare costs creates the most anxiety and stress when it comes to cost of living. The less money you have, the harder the impact that the rising costs of food, energy, rent and out of pocket healthcare costs has on people.

While its true that many Americans are doing well and seeing their invests grow, many many more Americans can't afford investments and struggle to be able to afford food, energy, rent and out of pocket healthcare costs. And a whole lot more know that the slightest unexpected expense could shift them from having just enough to not having enough to cover food, energy, rent and out of pocket healthcare costs.

If one wants to understand the financial worries that most Americans are facing, one has to stop assuming that everyone is in the same financial position that one is. I even see it on this board. A lot of people here assume that their financial situation is typical of most Americans, when in fact they are in a much better financial situation than most Americans.

So far the Biden campaign is making the same mistake while Trump and MAGA politicians are preying on the financial struggles of Americans.

The typical response to someone pointing this out is derisive disagreement. I don't expect that to change. The Biden campaign typically responds the same way.

For a person who's baked "empathy" into his brand, the Biden campaign shows very little empathy for people who are truly struggling worse now than they were before. They are more dismissive than empathic on this issue and most of his supporters are right there with him in deriding anyone who dares to say they are having harder time now than they were before.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I gave this some thought today, in addition to the ingrained belief (I think you have a point there) here is my theory. Also note these numbers are made up, just used for generalization lol

So you have 3 groups of people (theres more than 3, but I am just using 3)

group 1: (R) that will hate ANYTHING he does, no matter what. Good,bad, up, down, left, right. All the same = they'll boo him for it - like Goodell on draft day

group 2: Lefties, which see things like avg minimum wage has not increased in 20-something years. Housing costs 300% more expensive vs 15 years ago, wealth consolidation (rich get richer etc)

group 3: Maybe the largest group. Lets call them the middle of the pack, avg joe -type of people. They don't pay too close attention to politics, what concerns them the most is how things affect/effect their every day life. They go to the store and see things like the price of eggs $1 more expensive than 2 years ago. Their insurance costs increase. Things like that. This is not necessarily all the president's fault, but they gotta put the fault somewhere or on someone.

I don't think it's just about blaming Biden. I think a big part of it is being angry at being told they are better off now than in the past, when they know that they are struggling more now to keep up with the cost of food, energy, rent, healthcare and transportation costs.

If Biden just...:

1. ...said "I know a lot of you have it hard and this is what we're doing to improve it."
2. Very publicly and incessantly reminding everyone of the things he's doing to bring down the costs of those things or to provide some relief (like he's been doing with student loans)
3. Very publicly and incessantly pointing out when Republicans block his efforts, including naming names

...then he'd run away with the election.


Biden's campaign can't afford to keep telling people, who are struggling more now than they were before, that they are better off than they were before because of his economic policies. Hearing that makes a lot of the struggling people very angry, because they feel abandoned and forgotten. They won't vote for Biden because of that feeling and he doesn't have a lot of votes to lose if he wants to win the next election.