2024 GOP Presidential Race (3 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Many of Trump's endorsed candidates did not do well on Nov. 8th.
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Gov. Ron DeSantis DID do well.
He won convincingly.
Yet in this OP's opinion, Donald Trump is an egomaniac who is seemingly incapable of putting "Party over Self"
Trump has ZERO chance of being elected our next president.
In my opinion, if Trump would just shut up and go away (fat chance of that)...but "if" Trump did that, Gov. Ron DeSantis would have a CHANCE to be a formidable candidate for President in 2024.
Here is an interesting article on this topic...

Donald Trump warns Ron DeSantis against 2024 presidential bid as Republican rising star wins big

Donald Trump has warned Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis against running for president in 2024, saying doing so would harm the Republican Party.

www.scotsman.com

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What do any of you think re. Trump vs DeSantis?

 

[CoolBrees]

He is one guy I hope who gets the karma he deserves....

Oh it's coming.

And it will be glorious

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[cuddlemonkey]

This is the same Casey DeSantis who allowed her kids to be used as props in Ron's political ads, right?

 

[zztop]

seems like he vetoed a bill that had bipartisan support

DeSantis’ veto of electric cars bill cost taxpayers $277 million, critics say

The electric car bill, SB 284, sponsored by Sen. Jason Brodeur, R-Lake Mary, would have required all state and local governments, colleges and universities to buy vehicles based on their lowest lif…

www.orlandosentinel.com

The bill passed both chambers of the Legislature with just a single no vote

(oh and this happened)

DeSantis admin sues Biden's Education Department over college accreditation rule

Lawsuit accuses the Biden administration of abusing federal power.

www.axios.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

Like Sarah Palin Kari Lake likes the spotlight far too much for Trump’s liking
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Let’s say you want to be vice-president of the United States but you don’t have any meaningful political experience and you’ve never held public office. What do you do?

For most normal people, the answer would be to build your political career gradually. Start small, work your way up, and hope that one day your hard work gets you one of the biggest jobs in the world.

But Kari Lake, a self-described “election-denying deplorable” who has helped boost conspiracy theories about Covid vaccines and once called Anthony Fauci an “evil elf”, is not like most normal people.

Her two-pronged strategy for rising to the top of the political world? 1) Say as many bigoted and outlandish things as possible, in a bid to generate headlines. 2) Become Donald Trump’s loudest lapdog.

For a while, that strategy seemed to work. A few months ago, Axios reported that Trump was strongly considering picking a woman to be his running mate for the 2024 election, and Lake was one of his top choices.

Lake also won a straw pollfor the Republican vice-presidential pick during the Conservative Action Political Conference in March. She got 20% of the vote, beating the former UN ambassador Nikki Haley (10%) and the Florida governor, Ron DeSantis (14%).

Not bad for someone whose biggest political accomplishment is running for governor of Arizona in 2022, losing, then baselessly claiming that the election was rigged.

What Lake lacks in experience she makes up for in shamelessness. It’s not clear what – if anything – the 53-year-old actually believes but she’s clearly willing to say whatever it takes to get ahead.

In 2008, for example, Lake donated to Obama and even reportedly campaigned for him. Now, however, she’s reviving the racist birther conspiracies about him. She was once friends with one of Phoenix’s best-known drag queens; now she’s demonizing drag shows.

She’s an ambitious woman but she also has no problemtelling young conservatives that women “aren’t equal to men” and “don’t want to be equal to them because we are not the same”.

Lake has also positioned herself as Trump’s biggest cheerleader, proclaiming her devotion to the former president at every opportunity – even threatening armed resistance against anyone who went after her idol. She’s also gone to great lengths to stay as close as possible to the presumed Republican nominee.

Last month People reported that Lake essentially moved into Mar-a-Lago and is at Trump’s resort more than Melania Trump. It’s not clear whether she’s having official meetings with Trump or if she’s just sidling up to him every time he hits the DJ decks (something he apparently does after dinner at the club every weekend) and begging for a key role in his 2024 campaign. “She is working the deal,” sources previously told People about Lake’s vice-presidential ambitions. “She wants something bigger, fast, to compensate for her loss in Arizona.”

Alas, it seems that Lake may have flown just a little too close to the sun. Despite her sycophancy (she once told Piers Morgan that Trump is so powerful he wouldn’t even need a vice-president), there are reports that Trump has soured on his protege.

His newfound objections? Lake likes the limelight too much, apparently. She’s a “spotlight hound”, one Trump adviser complained to the Daily Beast. When Trump thinks you’re too thirsty for attention, that’s really saying something…….

Has Trump really turned on Kari Lake, one of his loudest cheerleaders? | Arwa Mahdawi

Her biggest political accomplishment was losing Arizona’s gubernatorial race in 2022 – and now Trump and his team think she might be too thirsty for attention

www.theguardian.com

 

[CoolBrees]

I'm sure this is all just a coincidence

A supporter’s plane flew from Florida to N.H. DeSantis won’t say if he was on it.

The Florida governor’s travel to New Hampshire coincided with the path of a wealthy supporter’s private plane.

www.politico.com

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I'm sure this is all just a coincidence

A supporter’s plane flew from Florida to N.H. DeSantis won’t say if he was on it.

The Florida governor’s travel to New Hampshire coincided with the path of a wealthy supporter’s private plane.

www.politico.com

“Anything of value given to a federal candidate like DeSantis is a contribution under federal law, subject to limits and restrictions,” said Paul S. Ryan, a longtime campaign finance and ethics lawyer. “In order to avoid violating federal contribution limits, federal candidates like DeSantis must pay the owners of private planes when they fly on them.”

Well, since he's running for President of the United States, he's exempt from that law...Right?

 

[zztop]

The culture war continues

DeSantis signs transgender bathroom bill, bans gender-affirming care, expands ‘Don’t Say Gay’ law

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) on Wednesday signed four bills that will substantially alter the everyday lives of LGBTQ people in the state in what advocacy groups have condemned as a “slate of hate…

thehill.com

 

[DaveXA]

The culture war continues

DeSantis signs transgender bathroom bill, bans gender-affirming care, expands ‘Don’t Say Gay’ law

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) on Wednesday signed four bills that will substantially alter the everyday lives of LGBTQ people in the state in what advocacy groups have condemned as a “slate of hate…

thehill.com

Of course. He's planted a stake in the ground and picking on a minority group of people. It's disgusting.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Of course. He's planted a stake in the ground and picking on a minority group of people. It's disgusting.

But...but...the majority of Americans agree with DeSantis, that's why he keeps dropping in the polls.

People love DeSantis, that's why he polls worse with people after they see him in person.

 

[Snarky Sack]

Of course. He's planted a stake in the ground and picking on a minority group of people. It's disgusting.

So, you disagree with most Republicans and conservatives on the transgenders in opposite sex bathroom issue?

Interesting.

 

[brandon]

So, you disagree with most Republicans and conservatives on the transgenders in opposite sex bathroom issue?

Interesting.

You’re just gonna ignore the whole conversation we had about how the bathroom issue is manufactured?

Like, do you really want to rehash how stupid that was again for everyone?

 

[Snarky Sack]

You’re just gonna ignore the whole conversation we had about how the bathroom issue is manufactured?

Like, do you really want to rehash how stupid that was again for everyone?

No, I'm making an entirely different point with DaveAX. He knows what it is, I think.

If it is a non-issue, I don't get why the left is fighting so hard that their view of a non-issue prevail?

Why not say in a condescending voice, "Sure . . . we won't let males into the female bathrooms," and then roll your eyes, because it isn't happening anyway?

 

[Snarky Sack]

To get back on the topic of the thread, DeSantis blames corporate media for his declining poll numbers:

DeSantis blames media for sagging poll numbers: ‘They’re going after me’

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) blamed members of media outlets for his sagging poll numbers that have him far behind former President Trump for the lead for the 2024 Republican nomination. DeS…

thehill.com

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) blamed members of media outlets for his sagging poll numbers that have him far behind former President Trump for the lead for the 2024 Republican nomination.

DeSantis said during an interview on Fox News on Thursday that “corporate media” are focusing on him because they do not want him to win the nomination.

That's not it. He's cutting his own throat by being too over the top on what he thinks are conservative issues. I had thought of DeSantis as a good second choice just-in-case or as a VP who could pick up the torch in four years. Lately, I'm having my doubts about Ron.

The trans issue is a perfect example. Trying to paint Trump as part of the current transgenderization movement, as he did in that ad is absurd. Trump opposes chemical and surgical castration of children, that is clear. But he doesn't hate trans people, nor does he want them to lose rights (mutilating children will never be a "right"). I have to think very few Republicans support the idea of CPS being sic'd on parents who follow doctor's advice. Most would like to regulate the kind of destructive advice gender specialists too often give, but not go after the parents. They are more often the victims also of the transgenderizers than bad faith actors.

His food fight with Disney, in which he is weaponizing the Florida government, is (or should be) exactly the kind of thing that Republicans oppose.

If he wants to out-Trump Trump, or out-conservative Trump, he should focus on the illegal alien issue, where he is stronger than Trump. But his going after of workers who have been in the country for years in most cases will be looked at as tone deaf in the wake of so many Americans not wanting to work unless they can "work at home." Keep busing new arrivals to sanctuary cities, since they have sworn to welcome them. They get tired enough of exactly what they wish on border states, they will ask Biden for help, as they are already doing.

 

[DaveXA]

So, you disagree with most Republicans and conservatives on the transgenders in opposite sex bathroom issue?

Interesting.

Man, reading comprehension dude.

 

[J-DONK]

You’re just gonna ignore the whole conversation we had about how the bathroom issue is manufactured?

Like, do you really want to rehash how stupid that was again for everyone?

0.6% of the population in the country is trans. A cohort that usually migrates to blue states because of xenophobia in red states.

The outrage was over an even smaller subset:

1. Those that lived in red states.
2. Could be identified as trans, because there are plenty out there you can't clock.

I bet that number isn't over 50k on a good day. How many of that subset is using public restrooms?

It was so laughable as a wedge issue.

Whoever is still talking about that deserves derision.

 

[brandon]

If it is a non-issue, I don't get why the left is fighting so hard that their view of a non-issue prevail?

Why not say in a condescending voice, "Sure . . . we won't let males into the female bathrooms," and then roll your eyes, because it isn't happening anyway?

It's a non-issue, so we're saying we don't need to create laws that require private businesses to both develop new policies, procedures, and infrastructure to support a non-issue.

Your hate costs a lot of useless time and money that could be better used elsewhere.

 

[efil4]

Your hate costs a lot of useless time and money that could be better used elsewhere.

"but, but its MaH HaTe".