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    It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

    Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

    Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

     
    I read about 2 of the Gitmo detainees who were selected for imprisonment there because they had tattoos, with no other evidence. The sister of one of the men says her brother’s tattoo is for his favorite team in Venezuela. She says he’s never been in trouble with the law either here or in Venezuela and that he came here and immediately made an appointment for his asylum request. In other words, he did everything by the book. And the only reason she knows he is in Gitmo is that he was in a photo that Noem posted of the “criminals” being held there. He hasn’t been allowed to communicate with anyone.
     
    The Trump administration’s decision to end temporary humanitarian protections for Venezuelans who came to the United States seeking refuge in recent years has plunged hundreds of thousands of people into uncertainty.

    Many worry they could be deported back to the autocratic regime they tried to flee.

    “We lived in fear and we are still afraid,” said Jesús, who fled Venezuela with his wife and children, crossing through Colombia, the Darién jungle in Panama and then Mexico, before arriving in Texas in 2021.

    His wife had worked as a civil servant in Venezuela, and had grown increasingly alarmed by the government’s crackdown on free speech and resisted participating in pro-government demonstrations. That’s when the couple began receiving threats. “They even chased us into our home,” Jesús said.

    In 2023, his family secured temporary protected status (TPS) – allowing them to legally live and work in the US – and assumed they would be safe for a while.

    But earlier this month, the homeland security secretary, Kristi Noem, abruptly decided to end TPS for approximately 350,000 Venezuelans in the US, including Jesús.

    Within 60 days, the administration plans to strip away the designation, saying that the situation in Venezuelahas “notably improved”.

    “You can imagine – this came as a shock,” Jesús said. “We suffered a political persecution in our country and now we are doing it here as well.”…..

     
    The Trump administration’s decision to end temporary humanitarian protections for Venezuelans who came to the United States seeking refuge in recent years has plunged hundreds of thousands of people into uncertainty.

    Many worry they could be deported back to the autocratic regime they tried to flee.

    “We lived in fear and we are still afraid,” said Jesús, who fled Venezuela with his wife and children, crossing through Colombia, the Darién jungle in Panama and then Mexico, before arriving in Texas in 2021.

    His wife had worked as a civil servant in Venezuela, and had grown increasingly alarmed by the government’s crackdown on free speech and resisted participating in pro-government demonstrations. That’s when the couple began receiving threats. “They even chased us into our home,” Jesús said.

    In 2023, his family secured temporary protected status (TPS) – allowing them to legally live and work in the US – and assumed they would be safe for a while.

    But earlier this month, the homeland security secretary, Kristi Noem, abruptly decided to end TPS for approximately 350,000 Venezuelans in the US, including Jesús.

    Within 60 days, the administration plans to strip away the designation, saying that the situation in Venezuelahas “notably improved”.

    “You can imagine – this came as a shock,” Jesús said. “We suffered a political persecution in our country and now we are doing it here as well.”…..


    Could've stayed in Panama.
     
    SCOTUS blog writeup on birthright citizenship.

     
    And that's 80% the same as the Holocaust?
    In case you forgot. We have laws. There are legal ports of entry. immigrants need to use it and we'll all be fine. Comparing this to the holocaust is laughable and iresponsible. If you enter the country illegally, its a crime. End of story. You don't like it, petition to have the laws changed.
     
    In case you forgot. We have laws. There are legal ports of entry. immigrants need to use it and we'll all be fine. Comparing this to the holocaust is laughable and iresponsible. If you enter the country illegally, its a crime. End of story. You don't like it, petition to have the laws changed.
    It is a civil matter. Musk entered the country or stayed in the country illegally. Now he is running the government while the orange idiot goes to the Super Bowl and Daytona.
     
    In case you forgot. We have laws. There are legal ports of entry. immigrants need to use it and we'll all be fine. Comparing this to the holocaust is laughable and iresponsible. If you enter the country illegally, its a crime. End of story. You don't like it, petition to have the laws changed.
    They have already put at least one person in Gitmo who did come here to claim asylum in the way it is allowed for him to do so. He is Venezuelan. He hasn’t been allowed to contact his family or legal representation. His sister recognized him because Noem put up a picture of the “criminals” incarcerated there. He was never in any legal trouble either here or in Venezuela. This is what you are saying is okay.

    It’s not okay. He did nothing wrong except being Venezuelan. This is far closer to Nazi Germany than you want to admit. And someone who supports Trump saying “we have laws” is just so very ironic. Your keyboard probably should have burst into flames as you typed that.

    Melania Trump and Elon Musk both broke immigration laws. The Venezuelan broke zero immigration laws, he already had his appointment with immigration court which he made as soon as he got here.

    Believing what this Administration says they are doing is the absolute worst sort of naivety. It’s so gullible - just irresponsible really to believe them.
     
    People attending recent mandatory immigration check-ins or court appearances have been escorted out in federal custody after the Trump administration allegedly tricked, lied to or otherwise deceived them as part of its mass deportation campaign.

    Amid a blitz of immigration-related policy changes over the last few weeks, Donald Trump and his subordinates have greenlit the ability of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) to conduct potential civil enforcement operations at courthouses, including in immigration courts.

    They have also reportedly set daily arrest quotas between at least 1,200 and 1,500 and gotten angrywhen agents have not consistently met those targets – pressure from the top that is probably incentivizing officers on the ground to go after the lowest-hanging fruit instead of people with serious criminal records.


    There’s no lower-hanging fruit than immigrants following the rules, who reliably show up when they are called in for immigration check-ins or court dates.

    And, already, anecdotes from around the country demonstrate how Ice is setting traps for people to walk into as their family members look on, helpless.

    Attorneys in New York say dozens of their clients have been detained and deported after reporting for seemingly routine check-ins related to their immigration cases since Trump’s electoral victory in November.

    Two of them, a mother and her young daughter, didn’t even know they had lost their appeal to stay in the US when they arrived for their appointment. They were deported the next day.

    For others in New York state, Ice check-ins now meanconfiscated passports, ankle monitor requirements and fingerprinting for kids. In neighboring New Jersey, non-citizens are being arrested at their appointments as well.

    And in Florida, family members and advocates have accused immigration enforcement officials of luring community members into a government contractor’s office, supposedly to fix an issue with their monitoring device or to sign a paper, only to take them into custody.

    One of the people affected by these tactics was a Miami-Dade county middle school science teacherwho had lived in the US since he was 13 years old and reportedly had Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (Daca) legal protections, which meant he should have been deprioritized for deportation.

    Despite that, he was arrested at his regular immigration appointment just before Trump was inaugurated and has since been returned to Honduras.

    Elsewhere, a father of four who had lived in the US for two decades and whose only infraction was a traffic stop was told at his 22 January check-in outside Cleveland, Ohio, that he had two weeks to buy a flight returning to Guatemala in February, or else Ice would track him down.

    And a week later, in an Ogden, Utah, court for relatively minor offenses, Ice was waiting for a man who pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor of impaired driving.

    The man’s wife and daughter had to stand by while they learned immigration agents would whisk their loved one away, and even the judge was regretful, saying he didn’t know Ice would be there and using the word “triste” – “sad” in Spanish – to describe his remorse.

    From this flurry of reports, it’s clear that the Trump administration is catching immigrants long in the US, many of whom have negligible or no criminal histories, in its dragnet of enhanced enforcement.

    By arresting people who actually report for required meetings and adjudications, officials are also in effect punishing them for not absconding.

    And while there has always been a risk of apprehension at Ice check-ins, it’s a seemingly counterintuitive approach to improving immigration enforcement to harm those who regularly come forward as they are directed……..

     
    Based on the agreement with Panama, it appears that the US has established a second off-shore concentration camp for detained migrants.


     
    People attending recent mandatory immigration check-ins or court appearances have been escorted out in federal custody after the Trump administration allegedly tricked, lied to or otherwise deceived them as part of its mass deportation campaign.

    Amid a blitz of immigration-related policy changes over the last few weeks, Donald Trump and his subordinates have greenlit the ability of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) to conduct potential civil enforcement operations at courthouses, including in immigration courts.

    They have also reportedly set daily arrest quotas between at least 1,200 and 1,500 and gotten angrywhen agents have not consistently met those targets – pressure from the top that is probably incentivizing officers on the ground to go after the lowest-hanging fruit instead of people with serious criminal records.


    There’s no lower-hanging fruit than immigrants following the rules, who reliably show up when they are called in for immigration check-ins or court dates.

    And, already, anecdotes from around the country demonstrate how Ice is setting traps for people to walk into as their family members look on, helpless.

    Attorneys in New York say dozens of their clients have been detained and deported after reporting for seemingly routine check-ins related to their immigration cases since Trump’s electoral victory in November.

    Two of them, a mother and her young daughter, didn’t even know they had lost their appeal to stay in the US when they arrived for their appointment. They were deported the next day.

    For others in New York state, Ice check-ins now meanconfiscated passports, ankle monitor requirements and fingerprinting for kids. In neighboring New Jersey, non-citizens are being arrested at their appointments as well.

    And in Florida, family members and advocates have accused immigration enforcement officials of luring community members into a government contractor’s office, supposedly to fix an issue with their monitoring device or to sign a paper, only to take them into custody.

    One of the people affected by these tactics was a Miami-Dade county middle school science teacherwho had lived in the US since he was 13 years old and reportedly had Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (Daca) legal protections, which meant he should have been deprioritized for deportation.

    Despite that, he was arrested at his regular immigration appointment just before Trump was inaugurated and has since been returned to Honduras.

    Elsewhere, a father of four who had lived in the US for two decades and whose only infraction was a traffic stop was told at his 22 January check-in outside Cleveland, Ohio, that he had two weeks to buy a flight returning to Guatemala in February, or else Ice would track him down.

    And a week later, in an Ogden, Utah, court for relatively minor offenses, Ice was waiting for a man who pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor of impaired driving.

    The man’s wife and daughter had to stand by while they learned immigration agents would whisk their loved one away, and even the judge was regretful, saying he didn’t know Ice would be there and using the word “triste” – “sad” in Spanish – to describe his remorse.

    From this flurry of reports, it’s clear that the Trump administration is catching immigrants long in the US, many of whom have negligible or no criminal histories, in its dragnet of enhanced enforcement.

    By arresting people who actually report for required meetings and adjudications, officials are also in effect punishing them for not absconding.

    And while there has always been a risk of apprehension at Ice check-ins, it’s a seemingly counterintuitive approach to improving immigration enforcement to harm those who regularly come forward as they are directed……..


    Looks like Trump is really getting all of those "bad hombres" out of here... the cruelty of this administration makes the first Trump admin look downright liberal.
     
    Jesus

    This is what people voted for and fork everyone who did

    I hope there is proof they informed the school and nothing was done and sue the hell out of the district

    The adults who knew and did nothing, fired

    If they identify the classmates who did this, expelled

    And I wonder if those kids feel even the slightest bit of remorse about driving this girl to this, and what their parents are feeling and saying to their children

    Sadly I wouldn’t be surprised if the kids feel nothing and neither do the parents (or worse than nothing, happy about it)
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    An 11-year-old girl took her own life in Texasafter she was tormented by classmates who threatened to call Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) authorities and have her family deported from the US, her grieving parents have said.

    Jocelynn Rojo Carranza passed away on February 8 after spending five days being treated in a Dallas hospital.

    This came after she was taunted with deportation threats for weeks by sixth-grade classmates at Gainesville Intermediate School, around 70 miles north of Dallas, her mother Marbella Carranza told Univision.

    Her death comes amid president Donald Trump’s ordering for the “largest deportation operation in American history,” prompting agents with ICE and other federal authorities to launch targeted raids on approximately 12 million undocumented immigrants nationwide.

    For Jocelyn however, the climate of fear became all too grave.

    Classmates allegedly harassed the young girl by telling her she would be left alone without her family once they were deported.

    But the alleged abuse spiraled, and despite reportedly informing school officials on numerous occasions, no action was taken to stop it.

    When asked to comment on this story, the Gainesville Independent School District did not acknowledge Carranza’s death but rather issued a statement pointing to its strict anti-bullying code…….


     
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    Jesus

    This is what people voted for and fork everyone who did

    I hope there is proof they informed the school and nothing was done and sue the hell out of the district

    The adults who knew and did nothing, fired

    If they identify the classmates who did this, expelled

    And I wonder if those kids feel the slightest bit of remorse about driving this girl to this, and what their stents are feeling and saying to them

    Sadly I wouldn’t be surprised if the kids feel nothing and neither do the parents
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    An 11-year-old girl took her own life in Texasafter she was tormented by classmates who threatened to call Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) authorities and have her family deported from the US, her grieving parents have said.

    Jocelynn Rojo Carranza passed away on February 8 after spending five days being treated in a Dallas hospital.

    This came after she was taunted with deportation threats for weeks by sixth-grade classmates at Gainesville Intermediate School, around 70 miles north of Dallas, her mother Marbella Carranza told Univision.

    Her death comes amid president Donald Trump’s ordering for the “largest deportation operation in American history,” prompting agents with ICE and other federal authorities to launch targeted raids on approximately 12 million undocumented immigrants nationwide.

    For Jocelyn however, the climate of fear became all too grave.

    Classmates allegedly harassed the young girl by telling her she would be left alone without her family once they were deported.

    But the alleged abuse spiraled, and despite reportedly informing school officials on numerous occasions, no action was taken to stop it.

    When asked to comment on this story, the Gainesville Independent School District did not acknowledge Carranza’s death but rather issued a statement pointing to its strict anti-bullying code…….


    America, the beautiful.
     

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