Trump's inability to restrain himself (Attacks on Greta Thunberg) (1 Viewer)

[coldseat]

I realize the title is inflammatory (to some), but in this instance it's well warranted. His attacks and mocking of Greta Thunberg are disgusting and unacceptable. I know we're just supposed to ignore him because he does this with everybody, but we shouldn't. There is no time and place where we should accept a US President mocking a 16 year old minor. NEVER! For any reason. If you don't have a problem with this, there's a problem with you.

Her activism for climate change and the fact that it irks Trump is irrelevant to how she should be treated, especially publicly by a US President.

This is what Trump represents to the world. This is the face they see when they think of America now, a 70-year old man attacking a 16-year old girl concerned about her future and the future of the planet she lives on. This is one of the main reasons he needs to go.

Trump again mocks teen climate activist Greta Thunberg - CNN Politics

President Donald Trump on Thursday again publicly mocked teen climate crisis activist Greta Thunberg, tweeting that the 16-year-old Swede who has inspired protesters worldwide has "anger management" issues.

www.cnn.com

 

[samiam5211]

That was his point?

Well, again, both of you are wrong.

Are you saying that because you think you are right?

Shouldn’t you at least tell us what you think so we can decide for ourselves?

 

[Beach Friends]

That was his point?

Well, again, both of you are wrong.

Well, I am at least

 

[SystemShock]

Well, I am at least

No, both of you.

 

[not2rich]

You both think that anyone who was mad about the Baron comment but see no problem with Trump's comments must be stupid or a hypocrite, but most likely both.

The Baron comment and Trump's comments are easily distinguishable. But neither are defensible. Yet some folks here seem to try to defend (i.e., laugh off) one but not the other.

 

[SystemShock]

Are you saying that because you think you are right?

Shouldn’t you at least tell us what you think so we can decide for ourselves?

Doesn't really matter, does it?

 

[Dragon]

How odd that a teenage girl with a medical condition from a country with a GNP less than that of North Carolina should suddenly become the spokesperson for an international movement.

Whomever decided to put her on the world stage will have to bear the consequences of whatever becomes of her in the future.

Political wunderkinds of this type normally get cast aside as they age and develop their own opinions which are at odds with the movement that set them on the publicity treadmill.

You don't know a lot about Aspergers do you lol ?

That "medical condition" as you call it and which she calls her "superpower" is the driving force behindh her campaign - not "handlers"

I have a nephew with that diagnosis and good luck with trying to change his mind or his focus once he gets going. He is superintelligent, extremely focused and persistent and will spend days, weeks, months reading everything written on the topic down to the finest details and don't ever discuss one of his "focus" topics with him because he will run in circles around you because he litterally have every fact memorized. He is also a 22 year old young man with a good job in IT, but who lives in a group home because he tends to forget important stuff like eating and socializing

If Greta is anything like Thomas then the parents had no other choice than to follow her lead once she got going...

 

[FullMonte]

That was his point?

Well, again, both of you are wrong.

Actually, my point was that it is incredibly hypocritical of someone to be outraged that a witness would say "Trump can name his son Baron, but he can't make him a Baron," and claim that is a horrible attack on a child....and then be ok with Trump actually criticizing a child on twitter.

Your statement that the statement about Baron wasn't directed at him, reinforces the point I was making that what those Trump supporters seem to be ok with Trump doing is significantly worse than what they were upset about, in regards to Baron.

 

[Dadsdream]

Do you think people should be applauded, ignored, or chastised for mocking her given everything that you know about the situation?

I realize that I have constructed three apparently arbitrary options from your point of view, it would be great if you just pick which one of the three most closely represents your thinking, or even explain why what you think doesn’t fit any of them.

This thread is about the president if the United States, who acts on our behalf, mocking a 16 year old girl with Aspergers.

It seems like you are trying to rationalize dispariging her, which to me would show that you feel mocking a 16 year old girl with Asperger’s syndrome an appropriate use of the authority you’ve granted to the executive branch of our Republic.

I'm disparaging the cold, calculating minds who put her in an international to further their agenda, knowing what that would make her a target.
Then, they get to cry foul when she gets treated like anybody else? Sorry, I'm not buying it.

 

[Dadsdream]

You don't know a lot about Aspergers do you lol ?

That "medical condition" as you call it and which she calls her "superpower" is the driving force behindh her campaign - not "handlers"

I have a nephew with that diagnosis and good luck with trying to change his mind or his focus once he gets going. He is superintelligent, extremely focused and persistent and will spend days, weeks, months reading everything written on the topic down to the finest details and don't ever discuss one of his "focus" topics with him because he will run in circles around you because he litterally have every fact memorized. He is also a 22 year old young man with a good job in IT, but who lives in a group home because he tends to forget important stuff like eating and socializing

If Greta is anything like Thomas then the parents had no other choice than to follow her lead once she got going...

Hi, Dragon.

OK, you don't like calling it a "medical condition" so let's call it a "malady" or an "affliction" or a "trait," or any one of a thousand other words from the thesaurus. Regardless, it is irrelevant. Whatever it was that caused her to initially gain notoriety is now irrelevant.

She's being used to parrot talking points fed to her by handlers that picked her to be the face of environmental activism.
They will just as quickly cast her aside when she develops opinions of he own which don't coincide with theirs.

Nice talking with you, Dragon, as always.

 

[MT15]

Care to elaborate, DD. Who are these minds who put her in the spotlight? What is their agenda?

 

[Dadsdream]

The Baron comment and Trump's comments are easily distinguishable. But neither are defensible. Yet some folks here seem to try to defend (i.e., laugh off) one but not the other.

One had no choice about his father becoming president.
One chose to be an environmental activist.

Past presidents have made it very clear what is acceptable and what is not acceptable regarding their underage children.
That didn't stop people from endlessly making crass remarks about Jenna Bush or Chelsea Clinton or Malia Obama.
But it did allow the presidents to draw a protective, fatherly line in the sand about what was right and what was wrong.

Deliberately putting a juvenile in the world spotlight to further environmental activism is a cold and calculated move and a deliberate choice, and the juvenile will be treated like anybody else who steps into that arena.

 

[FWtex]

Are you saying it’s ok for adults to publicly attack children or not?

Your position seems unclear.

I will gladly say exactly how I feel. If a 16 year olds wants to insert themselves into a political discussion and allow themselves to be hosted as some movement for a political discussion then others have every right to not look at them as a kid. The Democrats have decided to use kids as their political pawns for the specific purpose that they cannot be challenged.

Democrats are using kids the same way islamic terrorist are using kids as shield to not be blown up. Why are you upset with Trump and not those who put these kids in the situation to take the blowback for their adult handlers?

 

[Dadsdream]

Oh, one last thing.
Were the president's remarks crass, rude and totally in character for him, unfortunately? Yes.

Care to elaborate, DD. Who are these minds who put her in the spotlight? What is their agenda?

Who paid for her trip to the UN?
Who pays for the flights, the hotels, the food, the fliers, the posters, the billboards?
Somebody has to pay for all that.
Somebody has to manage scheduling, agenda, press releases, speeches, script writing.
You think all of that is being handled by a teenage girl by herself?
You're a bright lady. Since you're asking the question, why don't you look that up for yourself and let me know?

I typed Greta Thunber's Handlers and got this:

Luisa Neubauer - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

You can take it from there.

 

[MT15]

Thats completely disingenuous and you know it DD. Who do you think is orchestrating her, since you are making the claim? You should have the courage of your convictions.

 

[samiam5211]

I will gladly say exactly how I feel. If a 16 year olds wants to insert themselves into a political discussion and allow themselves to be hosted as some movement for a political discussion then others have every right to not look at them as a kid. The Democrats have decided to use kids as their political pawns for the specific purpose that they cannot be challenged.

Democrats are using kids the same way islamic terrorist are using kids as shield to not be blown up. Why are you upset with Trump and not those who put these kids in the situation to take the blowback for their adult handlers?

I’m going to assume that the 16 year old girl having Aspergers doesn’t change anything. We are responsible for how we treat people.

Blaming the democrats doesn’t change the fact that some people have decided it is ok to publicly bash a 16 year old girl with a medical condition. She hasn’t done anything wrong. You may not agree with her view, fine, disagree with her view. Rise above the playground discourse. Be best.

Comparing her to a human shield is unnecessarily hyperbolic.

They don’t have democrats where Greta is from.

 

[MT15]

So what I am taking away from this exchange is you, DD (and probably others) have no idea who is backing her or how they came to be in that position, just throwing crap out there about shadowy conspiracies and dark forces using her for their own nefarious plots.

If that’s not the case, then I await your response about where you got this idea that she is being exploited for some sort of conspiracy by someone.

You didn’t get the idea by googling like you just did. Have the courage of your convictions, DD, just straight up admit where you got the idea. Are you ashamed of where you got the idea?

 

[samiam5211]

I'm disparaging the cold, calculating minds who put her in an international to further their agenda, knowing what that would make her a target.
Then, they get to cry foul when she gets treated like anybody else? Sorry, I'm not buying it.

You are rationalizing adults taking cheap shots at a child.

 

[RobF]

Deliberately putting a juvenile in the world spotlight to further environmental activism is a cold and calculated move and a deliberate choice, and the juvenile will be treated like anybody else who steps into that arena.

The implication of this is that you think 16 year olds should be actively prevented from campaigning, in order to prevent them from achieving a high enough profile such that they become subject to personal attacks from the President of the USA.

Which is a weird take.

It's the personal attacks from the President of the USA that are wrong. Not the being 16 years old. Not the campaigning. The personal attacks.