Trump's inability to restrain himself (Attacks on Greta Thunberg) (1 Viewer)

[coldseat]

I realize the title is inflammatory (to some), but in this instance it's well warranted. His attacks and mocking of Greta Thunberg are disgusting and unacceptable. I know we're just supposed to ignore him because he does this with everybody, but we shouldn't. There is no time and place where we should accept a US President mocking a 16 year old minor. NEVER! For any reason. If you don't have a problem with this, there's a problem with you.

Her activism for climate change and the fact that it irks Trump is irrelevant to how she should be treated, especially publicly by a US President.

This is what Trump represents to the world. This is the face they see when they think of America now, a 70-year old man attacking a 16-year old girl concerned about her future and the future of the planet she lives on. This is one of the main reasons he needs to go.

Trump again mocks teen climate activist Greta Thunberg - CNN Politics

President Donald Trump on Thursday again publicly mocked teen climate crisis activist Greta Thunberg, tweeting that the 16-year-old Swede who has inspired protesters worldwide has "anger management" issues.

www.cnn.com

 

[cuddlemonkey]

This forum has a feature that allows everybody to selectively choose posters whose posts they do not wish to see or respond to.
So, what you're calling "a cop out" may simply be a case of the use of this feature.

It's quite possible. That's worse than a cop out.

Anyway, to keep this on topic. Do you believe that she deserves the sort of public bullying she is receiving at the hands of Trump simply because she is a public figure?

 

[coldseat]

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Did someone in this thread make a comparison to girl Jesus?

Are you trying to get someone to defend someone else’s comparison when they haven’t stated they support it?

No offense, but it made me picture a troll in a deer stand looking down at a straw man waiting for his game to take the bait.

Honestly, I think he's just waiting for, contemplating, expecting, looking forward to or excited about what is to surly be Greta's impending demise.

I can't think of any other reason to bring up that comparison. It doesn't have any relevance to what we're discussing here. And he keeps mentioning it.

So, take from that what you will.

 

[not2rich]

I don't think it's very Presidential for a 70 something year old "man" to try to pick on a kid, but I've got to admit she counter trolls pretty well.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I don't think it's very Presidential for a 70 something year old "man" to try to pick on a kid, but I've got to admit she counter trolls pretty well.

Never get into a Twitter feud with a Millenial. It's one of the classic blunders.

 

[V Chip]

Never get into a Twitter feud with a Millenial. It's one of the classic blunders.

 

[samiam5211]

Someone should make a meme with a time person of the year cover that uses that photo of Greta giving Donnie the death stare.

 

[dtc]

Were they outraged when they attacked a 16 yr old who was doing nothing but waiting for a bus at the steps of Lincoln memorial who was then called a racist and made a household name because he was easy prey and they did not like the hat he was wearing?

Oh yea, but Greta is off limits because ....

He was not standing there doing nothing. And, frankly, wearing a MAGA hat is in and of itself an act of aggression.

We are asked on this new forum to behave in an extremely polite manner. They will not tolerate thread titles that are even slightly provocative.

I suspect a thread title with a red MAGA hat on it would be censored and rightly so. It displays an attitude of belligerence in a way nothing short of a swastika could.

 

[dtc]

I would have still cited all the comparisons that were being made between this teenaged girl and the most venerated teenaged girl in Christendom and the irony that they all seem to omit her demise.
My response was highly substantive and relevant.

I am confused. As I recall, Joanie was burned at the stake by wretched and evil men for dressing like a man.

Are you arguing through this foggy suggestion that the young lady Trump mocks and belittles should be persecuted for her beliefs or perhaps that Joanie's demise was deserved and thus it's ok for the POTUS to mock a child?

 

[MT15]

He mentioned this comparison an awful lot, apropos of nothing, really. It’s a bit perplexing.

At the very least he seems to be saying he’s okay with the President bullying her on Twitter. At least she seemed to take it in stride and got in a better shot than he did.

 

[samiam5211]

He was not standing there doing nothing. And, frankly, wearing a MAGA hat is in and of itself an act of aggression.

We are asked on this new forum to behave in an extremely polite manner. They will not tolerate thread titles that are even slightly provocative.

I suspect a thread title with a red MAGA hat on it would be censored and rightly so. It displays an attitude of belligerence in a way nothing short of a swastika could.

A MAGA hat is a form of expression, just like a saints hat or or a T-shirt with a peace sign.

People are going to react to their interpretation of the expression, whether or not it matches the intent of the person it is coming from.

Keeping the interpretation of others in mind when choosing how we express ourselves has been labeled political correctness and now we have a segment of the adult population acting like they were never taught good manners as a child who are offended that anyone be offended by them.

 

[FullMonte]

Answer:

The comment about Barron had nothing to do with the child. False equivalency, yet again.

You are correct. Thanks for making my point for me.

 

[Dadsdream]

It's quite possible. That's worse than a cop out.

Anyway, to keep this on topic. Do you believe that she deserves the sort of public bullying she is receiving at the hands of Trump simply because she is a public figure?

If she is a public figure, different standards apply, regardless of her age.
She stepped onto the public stage. Those who put her there knew full-well what that would entail.
Does she deserve public bullying by the leader of the country that she bullied about environmental issues?
That goes with the turf her handlers have chosen for her.
Frankly, I totally ignored everything she did or said.
I've got grandchildren older than her and don't allow them to tell me what to think or do.

 

[dtc]

A MAGA hat is a form of expression, just like a saints hat or or a T-shirt with a peace sign.

People are going to react to their interpretation of the expression, whether or not it matches the intent of the person it is coming from.

Keeping the interpretation of others in mind when choosing how we express ourselves has been labeled political correctness and now we have a segment of the adult population acting like they were never taught good manners as a child who are offended that anyone be offended by them.

I agree and I am anything but PC. I also know what that hat means and it's meant to offend. It's meant to offend me and I'm not the type who will hide behind language and pleasantly take it. The people who wear those hats know it too or they'd be wearing them everywhere. They don't. And they don't because they know it offends people like me who they can't call a snowflake or buck up to if they're called out on it.

Those folks only wear their MAGA gear when they're at safe spaces. And isn't that ironic?

 

[dtc]

If she is a public figure, different standards apply, regardless of her age.
She stepped onto the public stage. Those who put her there knew full-well what that would entail.
Does she deserve public bullying by the leader of the country that she bullied about environmental issues?
That goes with the turf her handlers have chosen for her.
Frankly, I totally ignored everything she did or said.
I've got grandchildren older than her and don't allow them to tell me what to think or do.

What would you have said had Obama called out your granddaughter as a racist, redneck? Or, if it were Steve Gleason he mocked with his crippled hand dance?

 

[Beach Friends]

He was not standing there doing nothing. And, frankly, wearing a MAGA hat is in and of itself an act of aggression.

Our society has grown far too weak when wearing a Make America Great hat is seen as an act of agression.

Jonathan Haidt has done some excellent work studying how we have reached this point, and why it is necessary for parents not to coddle their children so that they learn to be more resilient.

Parents grew overprotective of their children. There are some legitimate reasons for that. The world may be more dangerous, but not to the degree it is perceived. Parents have fewer children, so they have more invested in the ones they have. Anyway, kids have grown up always having an adult to go to resolve disputes.

And then you have the anti bullying movement. Again, there are laudable motives, but the result is that they kids are less likely to learn to resolve disputes. Instead, they learn to go to an adult and plead their case as to why they are victims.

And then, these kids who have been sheltered - go to college and they demand not to be exposed to ideas that they disagree with. In their minds, what they find to be offensive is, in their minds, "violence" to them. An act of agression. Sadly, too many universities indulge this behavior and reward it with such policies as designating "safe spaces."

What we should be doing is teaching people to be resilient and we are doing the opposite.

 

[Dadsdream]

I am confused. As I recall, Joanie was burned at the stake by wretched and evil men for dressing like a man.

Are you arguing through this foggy suggestion that the young lady Trump mocks and belittles should be persecuted for her beliefs or perhaps that Joanie's demise was deserved and thus it's ok for the POTUS to mock a child?

I've carefully been respectful of my Catholic brothers and sisters, referring to her as Saint Joan.
Calling her "Joanie" is a deliberate slight and a sign of disrespect. I get that.

The "foggy suggestion" comparing Greta to Saint Joan was made by multiple left-leaning outlets and personalities, not me.

Her handlers have chosen to make her a public figure on an international stage. Her age does not give her a free pass. The audience can hurl rotten tomatoes and cabbage if they so choose.

They can also ride her out of town on a rail, as per old American custom for political speakers they don't like.

 

[dtc]

Our society has grown far too weak when wearing a Make America Great hat is seen as an act of agression.

Jonathan Haidt has done some excellent work studying how we have reached this point, and why it is necessary for parents not to coddle their children so that they learn to be more resilient.

Parents grew overprotective of their children. There are some legitimate reasons for that. The world may be more dangerous, but not to the degree it is perceived. Parents have fewer children, so they have more invested in the ones they have. Anyway, kids have grown up always having an adult to go to resolve disputes.

And then you have the anti bullying movement. Again, there are laudable motives, but the result is that they kids are less likely to learn to resolve disputes. Instead, they learn to go to an adult and plead their case as to why they are victims.

And then, these kids who have been sheltered - go to college and they demand not to be exposed to ideas that they disagree with. In their minds, what they find to be offensive is, in their minds, "violence" to them. An act of agression. Sadly, too many universities indulge this behavior and reward it with such policies as designating "safe spaces."

What we should be doing is teaching people to be resilient and we are doing the opposite.

I agree. That's why anyone wearing a MAGA hat in public gets called out on it. I'm more than happy to resolve the discussion civilly via discussion or otherwise. Problem is, every single time I've called someone out on it, they've been some sort of idiot who bellows about free speech and storms off whining about liberals and socialists instead of having the discussion.

It's why you see those hats at rallies, but not at the grocery store. You sure don't see them at public events. Never seen one at a Saints game. Surely haven't seen one walking in the bar after work. Might see one in a pick up truck, but those same guys don't wear them out walking around. Can't even think of the last time I saw one out in public. But when Trump comes to town, they're all wearing them .

Oh, and on facebook. Facebook makes snowflakes tougher than Marcus Colston.

 

[Dadsdream]

What would you have said had Obama called out your granddaughter as a racist, redneck? Or, if it were Steve Gleason he mocked with his crippled hand dance?

What would you have said if I painted you red, called you a Falcons fan and demanded you fly away?