Will “mass deportation” actually happen (1 Viewer)

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

[MT15]

It should be noted that what they want to do is imprison and eventually deport law-abiding people who are employed, paying taxes and contributing to our society.

And being here without authorization is a misdemeanor, it isn’t a criminal offense. These are moms, dads , kids. Often married to citizens, their children are often citizens.

These are the actions of monsters. If you ageee with these actions, you must face that fact.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Donald Trump’s presidential administration has acknowledged and apologized after it says it accidentally informed some Ukrainian refugees fleeing their country’s invasion by Russia that they needed to leave the US because their legal status was being revoked.

About 240,000 Ukrainians have been settled in the US as part of the Uniting for Ukraine – or U4U – program launched during Joe Biden’s presidency. But according to CBS News, some resettled Ukrainians received emails this week telling them that the US Department of Homeland Security would be terminating their legal protections.

More than 20,000 Ukrainians who flew to Mexico at the start of the war were also allowed into the US, which allows DHS officials to offer temporary work permits and deportation protections to migrants on humanitarian grounds.


“DHS is now exercising its discretion to terminate your parole,” read the notice dated 3 April, referring to the temporary legal status (TPS) granted to Ukrainians after Russia invaded its neighbouring state. “Unless it expires sooner, your parole will terminate 7 days from the date of this notice.”

If recipients failed to leave the US, the message warned, they would “be subject to potential law enforcement actions that will result in your removal from the United States” and encouraged the recipients to sign up for self-deportation.

“Do not attempt to remain in the United States – the federal government will find you,” the notice warned. “Please depart the United States immediately.”……

Trump administration apologizes for telling Ukrainian refugees to leave US

Some resettled Ukrainians reportedly were told Homeland Security would terminate their legal protections

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[MT15]

It seems the case of the man sent to the gulag in El Salvador is being argued today before the 4th Circuit. The Trump admin is still arguing that even though it was a mistake to send him to prison forever, they shouldn’t be asked to get him back. How do these people sleep at night? How do they take a 4 yo child’s father from her permanently, and in error, and say “no we don’t have to fix it?”

These are monsters. These are the actions of monsters. If you support this you have to confront that fact about yourself. You are supporting monsters who do monstrous things to innocent people.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[UriUT]

Markets and the economy can fluctuate, even if it's self inflicted this time. But this, voter suppressions, the rule of law, attacking lawyers, universities...this is the real danger.

 

[MT15]

Good explainer on due process and how important it is for everyone! And yes, if the government can deny due process to anyone, none of us will have it. It should be a gift article, I think.



Salient quote:

“I wonder how long we can maintain a shared ethos when the nation’s dominant political movement, now in control of the federal government, is attacking our core values.

The Trump administration is urging Americans to give in to their basest desires. It scorns the moral arguments that built the Constitution. If its assault on the American system is allowed to continue, that system will be destroyed — and once destroyed, it will not be easy to rebuild.”

 

[MT15]

Sworn testimony of a man sent to Guantanamo by Trump, with no warning and no due process. If you think what Trump is doing “has to be done” you definitely need to read this and then examine your morals, your sense of common decency and your commitment to the US system of jurisprudence.

https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/attach/2025/03/2025.03.01.0002-16%20Declaration%20Luis%20Alberto%20Castillo%20Rivera.pdf

 

[Optimus Prime]

Jorge, a 22-year-old asylum seeker from Venezuela, reported in February to the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) field office in Portland, Oregon, for what he figured would be a routine check-in. Instead, he was arrested and transferred to a detention center in another state.

Alberto, a 42-year-old from Nicaragua who had been granted humanitarian parole, checked in with Ice using an electronic monitoring program that same month. Three days later, he was arrested.

Sergei and Marina, a young couple from Russia with a pending asylum case, went into an immigration office in San Francisco in March, thinking they needed to update some paperwork. Agents arrested Sergei and told Marina to come back in a few weeks.

For years, immigrants of all sorts with cases in process, pending appeals or parole, had been required to regularly check in with Ice officers. And so long as they had not violated any regulations or committed any crimes, they were usually sent on their way with little issue. Now, as the Trump administration pushes for the mass arrestand deportation of immigrants, these once routine check-ins have become increasingly fraught.


Ice does not appear to keep count of how many people it has arrested at check-ins. But the Guardian estimates, based on arrest data from the first four weeks of the Trump administration, that about 1,400 arrests, or about 8% of the nearly 16,500 arrests in the administration’s first month – may have occurred during or right after people checked in with the agency.….

As deportations ramp up, immigrants increasingly fear Ice check-ins: ‘All bets are off’

Data suggests as many as 1,400 people were arrested during or right after Ice check-ins in first four weeks of Trump’s administration

www.theguardian.com

 

[superchuck500]

 

[Optimus Prime]

Can someone explain this to me?

The Trump Admin forked up deporting this guy

The Trump Admin admitted they forked up

The court tells the Trump Admin to fix their fork up

The Trump Admin says ‘No, we don’t want to and shouldn’t have to”

Now they want SCOTUS to say they don’t have to

The second it came out that this guy was sent in error why weren’t they in the phone trying to get this guy back ASAP?
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CNN) — President Donald Trump’s administration urged the Supreme Court on Monday to block a lower court order requiring officials to bring a man who was mistakenly deported to El Salvador back to Maryland.

The emergency appeal over Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, a Salvadoran national, landed at the high court hours before the 11:59 p.m. Monday deadline established by a lower court judge to return him to the US.

Trump attorneys have conceded in court filings that the administration mistakenly deported the father of three “because of an administrative error,” but said it could not bring him back because he is in Salvadoran custody. His case has added to the already considerable legal scrutiny over White House efforts to deport immigrants without a hearing or review……

Supreme Court pauses midnight deadline to return man mistakenly deported to El Salvador | CNN Politics

www.cnn.com

 

[coldseat]

Trump attorneys have conceded in court filings that the administration mistakenly deported the father of three “because of an administrative error,”

It wasn't "because of an administrative error", that is a pretextual excuse. It was because the Trump administration has a purposefully racist policy to illegally seize and deport brown people (and whoever else gets caught up) without due process from powers drawn from a claimed (but fake) "emergency" on the border.

I wish things were reported accurately in the news and stated accurately in courts.

 

[Optimus Prime]

President Donald Trump has said he “loves” the idea of sending American “wiseguys” to El Salvador prisons.

The remark came when a reporter questioned Trump about if he would be considering sending Americans to El Salvador after President Nayib Bukele said he’d be willing to take them. Trump previously said he would be “fine” and “very happy” with the removal of incarcerated Americans to El Salvador’s jails, while DOGE leader Elon Musk called it a “great idea.”

"I love that," Trump said Sunday. "If we could take some of our 20-time wiseguys that push people into subways and hit people over the back of the head and then purposely run people over in cars — if he would take them, I would be honored to give them.”…..

Trump says he ‘loves’ idea of sending American ‘wiseguys’ to prisons in El Salvador

Experts say there’s no legal basis for sending Americans to prisons in foreign countries

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Optimus Prime]

Lisa was eating takeout at a friend’s place when the email from her university landed. She clicked into her inbox and skimmed the message:

“ISS [International Student Services] is writing to inform you that your SEVIS record was terminated …”

The wording felt unfamiliar. She read it again, but it still sounded like a scam – absurd and unreal.


Lisa is an international student at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, just one month away from graduation. She asked to use a pseudonym due to concerns about retaliation and an ongoing legal case.

Before going to bed, she found someone posted a similar notice on social media. It was through these posts that Lisa understood what the email had actually meant: with her Student and Exchange Visitor Information System record terminated, she was now considered out of status in the US. Staying could mean violating immigration laws.

The Department of Homeland Security maintains the Sevis database that tracks international students and scholars on F, M and J visas. Once a Sevis record is terminated, a student’s legal status becomes immediately invalid. They must either leave the US within the grace period, typically 15 days, or take steps to restore their status. Otherwise, they risk deportation and future visa restrictions.

She dug through comment sections. Joined group chats. Searched for patterns. One emerged: most of the affected students had been fingerprinted. Some had been cited for non-criminal offenses, but the messages they received said they had criminal records.

That’s when she remembered: a year ago, she was driving home when she got two speeding tickets: one for speeding and another for failing to stop. She hadn’t seen the police car behind her until it was too late. To get the charges dismissed, she showed up in court, where she was fingerprinted.

Lisa is one of several students across states who found their legal status revoked by the US government on 4 April, without prior notice or clear explanation. University statements show that at least 39 students have been affected, including UC Berkeley, UCLA, UC San Diego, Stanford, Ohio State, the University of Tennessee, the University of Kentucky, Minnesota State University and the University of Oregon.


An online self-reported data sheet created by affected students suggests the issue may be more widespread. Students from 50 universities reported their visas were canceled around 4 April, with many noting that they had prior records, some limited to citations or non-criminal offenses…….

Deported over a speeding ticket? Dozens of US students’ visas abruptly revoked

Nearly 40 students report canceled visas over minor infractions as Trump intensifies crackdown on universities

www.theguardian.com

 

[superchuck500]

 

[Sendai]

On the plus side

“The court made clear that – as the government agrees – the plaintiffs, as well as others who may be detained or removed under the AEA, are entitled to be notified “that they are subject to removal under the Act.” Moreover, the court added, addressing an argument made by lawyers for the plaintiffs during oral arguments in the lower courts, the government must provide that notice “within a reasonable time and in such a manner as will allow them to actually seek habeas relief in the proper venue before such removal occurs.”

Supreme Court requires noncitizens to challenge detention and removal in Texas - SCOTUSblog

The Supreme Court on Monday lifted a pair of orders by a federal judge in Washington, D.C., that had barred the government from removing noncitizens who are designated as members of a Venezuelan gang under a March 15 executive order issued by President Donald Trump. By a vote of 5-4, the justices

www.scotusblog.com

 

[wardorican]

You know, it's kinda like... hear me out...maybe folks should get due process first.

 

[MT15]

On the plus side

“The court made clear that – as the government agrees – the plaintiffs, as well as others who may be detained or removed under the AEA, are entitled to be notified “that they are subject to removal under the Act.” Moreover, the court added, addressing an argument made by lawyers for the plaintiffs during oral arguments in the lower courts, the government must provide that notice “within a reasonable time and in such a manner as will allow them to actually seek habeas relief in the proper venue before such removal occurs.”

Supreme Court requires noncitizens to challenge detention and removal in Texas - SCOTUSblog

The Supreme Court on Monday lifted a pair of orders by a federal judge in Washington, D.C., that had barred the government from removing noncitizens who are designated as members of a Venezuelan gang under a March 15 executive order issued by President Donald Trump. By a vote of 5-4, the justices

www.scotusblog.com

As explained by experienced immigration attorneys-this is a toothless and meaningless statement by the court. Very few of these people have access to a lawyer, nobody knows what a reasonable time frame is and ICE has been known in the past to play a kind of shell game with prisoners by moving them from district to district to effectively prevent them from filing for habeas. In fact we see the Trump administration doing this very thing often, and in more flagrant fashion than before.

My guess is that this ruling means that Trump will immediately start throwing people on planes and shipping them off to the gulag. Nobody will do anything about his defiance of the terms the Court has spelled out so ambiguously.

60 Minutes’ investigation showed that fully 75% of the men and boys sent to the gulag so far had zero criminal records. None. Trump is lying about the vast majority of them being gang members and it’s a totally transparent lie, just to give cover to people who condone this monstrous behavior.