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    It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

    Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

    Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

     
    You do realize that you’re posting a link to the Fox news website, the same organization that had to pay over $750 million in a defamation lawsuit because they were lying and making up stories. Do better next time.
    Why?

    Of course I chose to use Faux for that report! It was an effort to provide him with a source that he could trust. That doesn't change the fact that Obama did, indeed, enforce our nation's laws and did, in fact, deport more illegals than trump.
     
    The Biden Administration didn’t stop deporting people. They continued following policies that choose to prioritize deportations of people who came here illegally and committed any crimes, but especially violent crimes. Harris would have continued the policies that prioritize criminal deportation.

    In fact, Biden did a better job getting rid of criminals than Trump did, because Trump didn’t prioritize deporting criminals. He would rather have numbers and it’s easier to deport law-abiding folks than criminals. They have jobs and stay in one place.
    For @SteveSBrickNJ, who is very ill informed on this topic.

    Deportations under Biden exceeded those under Trump.

    “US immigration authorities last year deported the largest number of undocumented immigrants in nearly a decade, surpassing the record of Donald Trump's first term in office.

    More than 271,000 immigrants were deported from the US over the last fiscal year, according to a report released by the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency on Thursday.

    The ICE report comes just weeks before President-elect Trump, who plans to make mass deportation a cornerstone of his incoming administration, takes office.

    President Joe Biden in 2021 had pledged to pause deportations, but his administration ended up expanding it following a surge in border crossings.”

     
    This is interesting - lawsuit challenges Trump admin's reversal of previous policy against immigration raids at churches. The plaintiffs (including various christian churches and jewish temples) assert that it is fundamental to their religion to welcome immigrants regardless of their status.

     
    Apparently, we missed it. Last week attorney general Pam Bondi announced their final solution to handling illegal immigrants.

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    Take a look at the highlighted section.
     
    After video showed federal agents covering a doorbell security camera during a sweeping Trump immigration immigration raid across Colorado cities this week, civil rights advocates are now sounding the alarm.

    In the footage, captured as a multi-agency task force moved through a Denver-area apartment and shared with Denver 9News, an officer with his face covered and a vest reading “police” can be seen walking up to the security camera and putting pink tape over it, then knocking on the door, as agents question a resident across the hallway.

    It’s unclear why the officer felt the need to cover the camera.

    The Denver Police Department told The Independent it “does not assist ICE with the enforcement of immigration laws” and was not involved in the operation where the video was captured.

    "Both the United States Constitution and the Colorado Constitution protect everybody from unlawful and unreasonable searches and seizures," civil rights attorney Jason Kosloski told 9News, which obtained the footage. "That's seizing that camera, and that's seizing that person's property rights...If there isn't a warrant, that's the default, that's not lawful."

    ICE agents have been conducting raids across the nation as they work to fulfill the promises of President Donald Trump to deport millions of migrants. Officials have said they are targeting people who have committed high-level crimes, but hundreds are being arrested across the nation every day. Democrats have voiced concerns about the program, and some governors are promising to fight Trump’s efforts...........

     
    Everybody is going to need to just stop answering their doors. Don’t open the doors for anyone unless they show you a warrant. They can slide it under the door, too, don’t open the door to take it. I’ve read about ICE using blank warrant forms.
     
    Why?

    Of course I chose to use Faux for that report! It was an effort to provide him with a source that he could trust. That doesn't change the fact that Obama did, indeed, enforce our nation's laws and did, in fact, deport more illegals than trump.
    Yesterday's statistics which will seem very small when compared with the numbers Trump will put up during these current 4 years.
     
    Everybody is going to need to just stop answering their doors. Don’t open the doors for anyone unless they show you a warrant. They can slide it under the door, too, don’t open the door to take it. I’ve read about ICE using blank warrant forms.

    Most initial interactions with ICE are voluntary - they are not a detention and there is no obligation to comply with them unless/until they have probable cause or some other basis to ask for documentation (e.g. driving a car).
     
    Most initial interactions with ICE are voluntary - they are not a detention and there is no obligation to comply with them unless/until they have probable cause or some other basis to ask for documentation (e.g. driving a car).
    Yeah, but they are wearing gear that says POLICE and knocking on random doors at this point in some places. It’s been pointed out that they are being pressured to up their rates of detentions and deportations and their bosses don’t much care how they do it. Hence the rule changes on raiding schools and churches.

    I’ve seen reports that they are lying about who they are and saying they have a warrant to get someone to open the door. They wave a blank warrant or one that’s filled out but not signed by a judge to fool people into letting them in.

    They aren’t busting doors down yet, I don’t think, but how long before they start doing that?
     
    Man, where did those goal posts go?
    These guys are just embarrassing. It’s amazing to see how they twist their integrity into knots because they believe all the lies. From known liars and crooks.
     
    Guess this can go here
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    A company owned by two of Donald Trump’s top mega-donors has routinely brought dozens of its workers from Mexico to staff its warehouses in Wisconsin and other locations even though they do not appear to have permission to work in the US, according to a Guardian investigation.

    Uline – a giant Wisconsin-based office and shipping supply company controlled by billionaires Liz and Dick Uihlein – shuttles in its own workers from Mexico, who are using tourist visas and visas meant for employees who are entering the US temporarily to receive professional training, known as B1 visas.

    But instead of being part of a dedicated training program, the Mexican employees stay for one to six months and – sources with direct knowledge of the matter allege – perform normal work in Uline’s US warehouses.

    Lawyers and immigrants’ advocates told the Guardian they believed the alleged practice is likely illegal and could be exploitative of the workers enrolled in the program.

    The company has allegedly used employees without proper work permits even as Dick Uihlein’s Super Pac, Restoration Pac, supported Trump’s presidential campaign with a TV advertisement attacking his opponent Kamala Harris for allowing an immigrant “invasion” at the US-Mexico border.

    The Uihleins have emerged as a major force in rightwing politics, spending tens of millions of dollars supporting candidates, including president-elect Trump and other rightwing politicians, who have called for a mass deportation of immigrants.

    They were the second-largest political donors in this year’s election, giving more than even Elon Musk, the world’s richest man.……

    Uline, a Wisconsin-based office supply company owned by one of Donald Trump’s biggest financial backers, paid workers it brought from Mexico to work at its US warehouses just a fraction of what their US counterparts were paid, according to four sources who spoke to the Guardian.

    The workers from Mexico earned per day about the same as their US counterparts were paid by the hour, according to the American and Mexican sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of nervousness about speaking out publicly against the company.

    One pay stub, which was seen by the Guardian, showed that a Mexican worker was paid about $38 per day, plus a weekly bonus of about $225 before taxes. Separately, they were also paid daily food expenses.

    In comparison, a former warehouse worker, who is American, said based on his experience, Uline’s American warehouse staff were earning between $30 to $35 per hour when he left the company in 2023. The American workers also received health insurance and 401k benefits…….

    Uline’s permanent warehouse workers, one former employee said, had to wear a uniform of a red Uline polo, blue zip up jacket, blue work pants, and single color shoes. In the winter, the permanent staff could wear a fleece and a thin hat, but not a thicker coat.

    The temporary contracted staff, who were mostly Hispanic, were given only a vest that said Uline.

    “They weren’t allowed to wear hats or gloves of any kind, because the manager said it broke code. There were times, in winter in Wisconsin, when it’s single digits at night,” the person said.

    “And if they got caught wearing them, they were told to take them off. If they were caught a second time, they were told to go home and then wouldn’t come back.”

    The person added: “They did not treat them like human beings.”

    The person, who worked for Uline for about four years, recalled that one night when it was “absolutely frigid” – about -6F – he and a co-worker grabbed some extra fleece jackets that were on a table designated for Uline staff and brought them to the temporary contracted workers, only to be “screamed at” by a manager.

    “I told him I didn’t care and to write me up because it was -6. It didn’t even make sense. It is unethical,” the person said.

    Another former worker independently corroborated the account, saying he had worked at multiple warehouse sites, but that no workers were treated as badly as temporary workers at Uline.

    “Worse than any job I have ever seen in my life,” he said. There were frequent injuries related to the cold, he added.…….

     
    A barrage of executive orders, many concerning immigration, marked Trump’s first weeks in office. Maligning people immigrating as a “large scale invasion” of “potential terrorists”, “violent”, and “hostile actors with malicious intent” the EOs call for the slashing of physical and legal pathways to admission, lay the groundwork for mass deportation and attack immigrant rights by attempting to (unconstitutionally) revoke birthright citizenship.

    People like Kristi Noem, the secretary of homeland security, are using social media strategically to stoke fear, broadcasting images of Ice raids and deportations to the notorious Guantánamo Bay in Cuba. The administration has also sent an additional 1,500 active duty troops to “secure” the southern border.

    Within the spectacle and bombast is a glaring message: Black and brown people are unwelcome in a great white America.

    The point is hard to miss in pre-election rhetoric that cast Haitians as dog-eaters; in executive orders that cancel refugee resettlement, but carve out an exception for Afrikaners “escaping” the “race-based discrimination” of a policy that reclaims land stolen through apartheid; or in Navajo nation reports of its members caught up in migration raids.

    This administration, which has also made a spectacle of defunding diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) protections, and casting people of color as lacking merit, is obsessed with immigration policy precisely because it is what determines the makeup of our nation – who is here and with what right. It is the ultimate tool of white supremacy and segregation.

    Although Trump’s immigration policies are intended to be perceived as crueler than those of his predecessors (and some of them are), they are merely the latest instantiation of a centuries-long American tradition: laws meant to exclude people of color and privilege whiteness.……

     

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