Will “mass deportation” actually happen (6 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

[DaveXA]

I just wondered if using Gitmo would significantly cut down on border crossings. As in, is it worth crossing the border and potentially ending up in Gitmo?

To think migrants would consider Gitmo a deterrence is absurd. They're already risking their lives to get into the country. They wouldn't think twice about Gitmo.

Regardless, there's no good reason we should be using Gitmo other than maybe temporarily housing prisoners of war until they can be properly sent where they need to go. I don't support concentration camps of any kind. We already have a poor track record in this regard. We don't need to make it worse.

 

[MT15]

I just wondered if using Gitmo would significantly cut down on border crossings. As in, is it worth crossing the border and potentially ending up in Gitmo?

Well, having the border patrol shooting people as they try to cross would also cut down on border crossings, I suppose. It would be immoral and wrong, just like using Guantanamo to house people whose only crime is a misdemeanor border crossing.

 

[gummbo]

I just wondered if using Gitmo would significantly cut down on border crossings. As in, is it worth crossing the border and potentially ending up in Gitmo?

You have to ask yourself, what would be worse being in Gitmo getting three square meals a day or staying in a drug infested crime ridden country where every day you take your life in your hands and you have to struggle for the meager amount of money that you hope you make to support your family, or take the chance, cross the border and hope you don’t get caught in the next four years until things change. I Would hate having to make that decision in my life, #forkDonaldTrump

 

[bird]

You have to ask yourself, what would be worse being in Gitmo getting three square meals a day or staying in a drug infested crime ridden country where every day you take your life in your hands and you have to struggle for the meager amount of money that you hope you make to support your family, or take the chance, cross the border and hope you don’t get caught in the next four years until things change. I Would hate having to make that decision in my life, #forkDonaldTrump

How very Christian of this Christian nation.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Two high-ranking Tennessee Republicans have filed a bill to allow public schools to deny enrollment to children who entered the country illegally, a direct challenge to a long-standing federal precedent that guarantees a right to public education to all children in the United States.

House Bill 793 would allow Tennessee schools to refuse to enroll a child "who is unlawfully present in the United States."

The proposed law doesn't require schools to do so, meaning school districts can still allow enrollments without citizenship or legal residency documentation.

The legislation would almost certainly be legally challenged if passed into law. A statement from the House Republican Caucus said that it is the bill sponsors' specific intent to challenge a 1982 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that enshrined the requirement for American public schools to provide equal access to all children.

House Majority Leader William Lamberth, R-Portland, and Sen. Bo Watson, R-Hixson, filed the legislation on Tuesday.

"Our education system has limited resources, which should be prioritized for students who are legally present in the country,” Watson, chair of the powerful Senate finance committee, said in a statement. “An influx of illegal immigration can strain (local education agencies) and put significant pressure on their budgets. This bill empowers local governments to manage their resources more effectively and builds upon the legislative action taken during the special session to address illegal immigration at the local level."

Sen. Todd Gardenhire, R-Chattanooga, criticized the effort on Tuesday.

"It saddens me that we pick on children," Gardenhire said. "That's just something we ought not to do here. These kids are brought here by their parents. If you believe in the Bible, as I do, all through the Old Testament it talks about you don't punish children for what their fathers do."............

Tennessee Republicans file bill to allow public schools to reject undocumented children

The bill is a direct effort to challenge a long-standing U.S. Supreme Court precedent guaranteeing a right to public education to all children.

www.tennessean.com

 

[efil4]

I just wondered if using Gitmo would significantly cut down on border crossings. As in, is it worth crossing the border and potentially ending up in Gitmo?

is that what you "wondered"?

huh. Because im searching your previous posts and dont see any question regarding the deterrence possibility.

You think the US is dropping flyers along the border explaining Gitmo to the migrants? Or taking out tv/radio ads to advise them of Gitmo?

 

[RobF]

is that what you "wondered"?

huh. Because im searching your previous posts and dont see any question regarding the deterrence possibility.

You think the US is dropping flyers along the border explaining Gitmo to the migrants? Or taking out tv/radio ads to advise them of Gitmo?

The previous UK Conservative government had a scheme to deport illegal immigrants and asylum seekers to Rwanda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwanda_asylum_plan

They found themselves simultaneously arguing that being deported to Rwanda would both be a deterrent and that, actually, being deported to Rwanda was a great deal and a good opportunity. It was an abject failure, legally and practically, and I'd say, morally.

Generally, it's modeled on the Australian approach - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Solution followed by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sovereign_Borders - but those were also controversial, of debatable degrees of success, and obviously have practical issues with regard to countries that aren't islands.

But the principle of, let's say, being increasingly inhumane to make a nation less of an option for refuge can certainly theoretically 'work' in the sense of making fewer people want to go there. But I think, "Let's make our nation increasingly inhumane, hostile, and unpleasant so people don't want to come here," has the glaring flaw that it makes your nation inhumane, hostile, and unpleasant.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

I would think a moral, actual conservative person would oppose any expansion of use of Guantanamo for immigrants not guilty of violent crimes as a serious executive overreach to say nothing of the immoral component.

Guess conservative doesn’t mean what it used to mean.

Ladies and gentlemen I AGREE with @MT15 .
IF anyone is sent to Guantanamo merely because they crossed the border illegally, then sending them there WOULD be "a serious executive overreach".

 

[t_rav_82]

Two high-ranking Tennessee Republicans have filed a bill to allow public schools to deny enrollment to children who entered the country illegally, a direct challenge to a long-standing federal precedent that guarantees a right to public education to all children in the United States.

House Bill 793 would allow Tennessee schools to refuse to enroll a child "who is unlawfully present in the United States."

The proposed law doesn't require schools to do so, meaning school districts can still allow enrollments without citizenship or legal residency documentation.

The legislation would almost certainly be legally challenged if passed into law. A statement from the House Republican Caucus said that it is the bill sponsors' specific intent to challenge a 1982 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that enshrined the requirement for American public schools to provide equal access to all children.

House Majority Leader William Lamberth, R-Portland, and Sen. Bo Watson, R-Hixson, filed the legislation on Tuesday.

"Our education system has limited resources, which should be prioritized for students who are legally present in the country,” Watson, chair of the powerful Senate finance committee, said in a statement. “An influx of illegal immigration can strain (local education agencies) and put significant pressure on their budgets. This bill empowers local governments to manage their resources more effectively and builds upon the legislative action taken during the special session to address illegal immigration at the local level."

Sen. Todd Gardenhire, R-Chattanooga, criticized the effort on Tuesday.

"It saddens me that we pick on children," Gardenhire said. "That's just something we ought not to do here. These kids are brought here by their parents. If you believe in the Bible, as I do, all through the Old Testament it talks about you don't punish children for what their fathers do."............

Tennessee Republicans file bill to allow public schools to reject undocumented children

The bill is a direct effort to challenge a long-standing U.S. Supreme Court precedent guaranteeing a right to public education to all children.

www.tennessean.com

Except for all those spots in the 1st testament where it says the exact opposite of that. OT god loves doling out unearned punishment. I wish people like him would just say it's immoral no matter what 'god' you pray to.

 

[Dragon]

For an outsider this whole topic is ironic

On one hand the republicans wants more women to stay at home and have babies because they need workers and on the other hand they want to kick out people who experience shows are willing to do the hard and dirty work and whose children often outperform their peers..

(I do know it is all about the color of their skin)

 

[DaveXA]

Ladies and gentlemen I AGREE with @MT15 .
IF anyone is sent to Guantanamo merely because they crossed the border illegally, then sending them there WOULD be "a serious executive overreach".

Thank you for that. Agree .

 

[superchuck500]

 

[DaveXA]

Fork states' rights, no?

 

[bird]

Two high-ranking Tennessee Republicans have filed a bill to allow public schools to deny enrollment to children who entered the country illegally, a direct challenge to a long-standing federal precedent that guarantees a right to public education to all children in the United States.

House Bill 793 would allow Tennessee schools to refuse to enroll a child "who is unlawfully present in the United States."

The proposed law doesn't require schools to do so, meaning school districts can still allow enrollments without citizenship or legal residency documentation.

The legislation would almost certainly be legally challenged if passed into law. A statement from the House Republican Caucus said that it is the bill sponsors' specific intent to challenge a 1982 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that enshrined the requirement for American public schools to provide equal access to all children.

House Majority Leader William Lamberth, R-Portland, and Sen. Bo Watson, R-Hixson, filed the legislation on Tuesday.

"Our education system has limited resources, which should be prioritized for students who are legally present in the country,” Watson, chair of the powerful Senate finance committee, said in a statement. “An influx of illegal immigration can strain (local education agencies) and put significant pressure on their budgets. This bill empowers local governments to manage their resources more effectively and builds upon the legislative action taken during the special session to address illegal immigration at the local level."

Sen. Todd Gardenhire, R-Chattanooga, criticized the effort on Tuesday.

"It saddens me that we pick on children," Gardenhire said. "That's just something we ought not to do here. These kids are brought here by their parents. If you believe in the Bible, as I do, all through the Old Testament it talks about you don't punish children for what their fathers do."............

Tennessee Republicans file bill to allow public schools to reject undocumented children

The bill is a direct effort to challenge a long-standing U.S. Supreme Court precedent guaranteeing a right to public education to all children.

www.tennessean.com

Limited resources…welp, the local control that the RW trumpets is cutting funding to give it private schools and charter schools.

Forking hacks

 

[SystemShock]

well he got what he wished for he just did not know what he wanted I guess

Cuban Héctor Luis Valdés Cocho is in ICE custody in Florida

Valdés Cocho had been arrested last November amid several fraud accusations.

en.cibercuba.com

Adios, Felicia.

 

[Sendai]

Fork states' rights, no?

Supreme Court is of the opinion that immigration and naturalization belongs to Congress. So, Federal.

 

[DaveXA]

Supreme Court is of the opinion that immigration and naturalization belongs to Congress. So, Federal.

Eh, you're just picking and choosing what you want to be under state jurisdiction and not.

And if it belongs to Congress then fine, but that's not what's happening here. This is the executive branch (overreach), not Congress.

 

[Sendai]

Eh, you're just picking and choosing what you want to be under state jurisdiction and not.

And if it belongs to Congress then fine, but that's not what's happening here. This is the executive branch (overreach), not Congress.

Just pointing out the Supreme Court’s opinion.