Will “mass deportation” actually happen (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

[RobF]

Trump administration says it has begun deporting migrants to Guantánamo Bay

Press secretary says at least two deportation flights to Cuban base of undocumented immigrants ‘under way’

www.theguardian.com

Article about migrants reportedly being deported to Guantanamo.

There's a quote in there I hadn't picked up on before that's particularly disturbing:

Donald Trump last week signed an executive order to prepare a huge detention camp at the navy base at Guantánamo that he said could house up to 30,000 people deported from the US.​

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“Some of them are so bad, we don’t even trust the countries [of origin] to hold them because we don’t want them coming back,” he said. “So we’re going to send them out to Guantánamo. This will double our capacity immediately.”​

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So he's proposing there to never deport them to their country of origin, but to keep them, concentrate them if you will, in this camp indefinitely? And would that be a final solution?

 

[brandon]

Trump administration says it has begun deporting migrants to Guantánamo Bay

Press secretary says at least two deportation flights to Cuban base of undocumented immigrants ‘under way’

www.theguardian.com

Article about migrants reportedly being deleted to Guantanamo.

There's a quote in there I hadn't picked up on before that's particularly disturbing:

Donald Trump last week signed an executive order to prepare a huge detention camp at the navy base at Guantánamo that he said could house up to 30,000 people deported from the US.​

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“Some of them are so bad, we don’t even trust the countries [of origin] to hold them because we don’t want them coming back,” he said. “So we’re going to send them out to Guantánamo. This will double our capacity immediately.”​

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So he's proposing there to never deport them to their country of origin, but to keep them, concentrate them if you will, in this camp indefinitely? And would that be a final solution?

You know shirt’s real when this post isn’t getting any laugh reacts from the right-wingers.

 

[SystemShock]

Trump administration says it has begun deporting migrants to Guantánamo Bay

Press secretary says at least two deportation flights to Cuban base of undocumented immigrants ‘under way’

www.theguardian.com

Article about migrants reportedly being deleted to Guantanamo.

There's a quote in there I hadn't picked up on before that's particularly disturbing:

Donald Trump last week signed an executive order to prepare a huge detention camp at the navy base at Guantánamo that he said could house up to 30,000 people deported from the US.​

​

“Some of them are so bad, we don’t even trust the countries [of origin] to hold them because we don’t want them coming back,” he said. “So we’re going to send them out to Guantánamo. This will double our capacity immediately.”​

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So he's proposing there to never deport them to their country of origin, but to keep them, concentrate them if you will, in this camp indefinitely? And would that be a final solution?

Guantanamo Bay has been a detention camp for over 20 years, with hundreds (if not 1000's, records are sketchy) of people being detained as "enemy combatants", without being actually charged of anything and without due process; some held for over a decade; most had never set foot in the U.S.

A naval base, btw, held illegally by the U.S. since 1953. Not surprising, though...at a much, much smaller scale, the U.S. Consulate in Merida moved to a new location months ago, and the U.S. is refusing to give back the previous location.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Not sure where to put this
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President Donald Trump signed an executive orderWednesday to punish protesters who supported Palestine and called for an end to Israel's military onslaught in Gaza, including the potential deportation of non-citizen students and university staff.

The escalation comes with the assistance of Betar, a far-right group whose stated mission is to "defend Zionism with clarity and courage," which told Salon it has compiled a list of foreign students and teachers that it believes should be expelled from the country — and shared it with the Trump administration.

According to Trump's executive order, federal authorities are now charged with identifying all civil and criminal actions within their respective jurisdictions "that might be used to curb or combat anti-Semitism."

This includes working with university administrators to monitor activities "by alien students and staff" and, "if warranted," taking action "to remove such aliens."

"To all the resident aliens who joined in the pro-jihadist protests, we put you on notice: come 2025, we will find you, and we will deport you. I will also quickly cancel the student visas of all Hamas sympathizers on college campuses, which have been infested with radicalism like never before," Trump said in a "fact sheet" distributed by the White House.

Even before Trump's victory last November, Betar had been using AI facial recognition technology and tip-offs to ascertain anti-Zionist protesters' identities, hoping that authorities would eventually vet and use the information to deport "despicable, egregious people who openly support Hamas and other terrorist organizations," spokesperson Daniel Levy said in a statement to Salon. According to Levy, such people "pose an immediate and present danger to this country."………..

A pro-Israel group says it gave the Trump administration a list of students to deport

Betar, a self-described Zionist group, wants to help Trump curtail pro-Palestine speech

www.salon.com

 

[RobF]

Guantanamo Bay has been a detention camp for over 20 years, with hundreds (if not 1000's, records are sketchy) of people being detained as "enemy combatants", without being actually charged of anything and without due process; some held for over a decade; most had never set foot in the U.S.

Indeed. One of them has just written this opinion article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/05/guantanamo-detainee-trump-immigrants

Guantánamo Bay, a name synonymous with human rights abuses, was first repurposed in 2002 under then president George W Bush and defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld as a detention center for individuals branded as “the worst of the worst”. I was among those detainees – abducted, shackled and transported like cargo, blindfolded and unaware of my fate. The memories of roaring military planes, soldiers barking orders and the growls of attack dogs still haunt me.​

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The US government justified our detention by painting us as dangerous terrorists, a narrative that allowed for indefinite imprisonment without charge or trial. Now, more than two decades later, a similar narrative is being constructed. Trump’s rhetoric of labeling undocumented immigrants as “the worst criminal illegal aliens”, is a deliberate and dehumanizing tactic that opens the door to further abuses under the guise of national security.​

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This decision is not just a policy shift; it’s a moral failure. Having endured nearly 15 years in Guantánamo without due process, subjected to torture and inhumane conditions, I can attest to the facility’s capacity for cruelty. I shared those cages with innocent men and even children, all victims of a system designed to strip away their humanity.​

A naval base, btw, held illegally by the U.S. since 1953. Not surprising, though...at a much, much smaller scale, the U.S. Consulate in Merida moved to a new location months ago, and the U.S. is refusing to give back the previous location.

The UK is in the process of returning the Chagos Islands back to Mauritius at the moment, reluctantly (international law proceedings were not trending in the UK's favour), while still maintaining the UK/US military base on Diego Garcia. But that's on hold now while the new US administration has their say. I'm sure that'll go smoothly. Giving things back has never been in vogue, and we seem to be heading in the opposite direction to "taking more" now.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Just a matter of time before someone is hurt or killed
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Police in South Carolina received a call last week reporting that a person was driving a vehicle without a license. But they later learned it was actually the caller who had committed a crime, the Sullivan’s Island Police Department said.

That revelation came after a video, which Spanish news network Nuestro Estado shared on Facebook, showed a man telling the driver of a stopped truck that the driver was “going back to Mexico.” After reviewing the video and talking with witnesses, police said they obtained warrants for 33-year-old Sean Michael Johnson of Huger, South Carolina.

Johnson is among a handful of people who have been arrested for impersonating law enforcement officers while citing immigration laws since President Donald Trump directed U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to arrest more than 1,000 immigrants per day. The order has put immigrant communities across the United States on high alert; some people have even worried that ice cream trucks and Secret Service agents have been working for ICE.

Men in Philadelphia and North Carolina have also been arrested for the impersonation of ICE officers in recent days, authorities said.

In the Facebook video from South Carolina, the suspect — whom police identified as Johnson — is seen taking the driver’s keys and saying the person “got caught.” Sullivan’s Island Police Chief Glenn Meadows said there were three Hispanic people in the truck whom the department is not publicly identifying.

Johnson was arrested Friday after turning himself in to police and was charged with multiple crimes, including petit larceny and kidnapping. He has since been released from a jail in North Charleston on a combined $231,587 bond, jail records show.

On Tuesday, Johnson hung up a phone call after a reporter from The Washington Post introduced himself, and he did not respond to a subsequent voicemail. Leaders of the Charleston County public defender’s office did not respond to a request for comment Tuesday night. A public defender said in a virtual court appearance Saturday that Johnson was sorry, according to Charleston-based news channel WCIV.

Another impersonation took place in Philadelphia on Saturday, authorities said. Temple University’s public safety team responded to reports of two men impersonating ICE agents at a campus residence hall, officer Tanya Little, a spokesperson for the Philadelphia Police Department, said in an email to The Post.

The men wore black shirts that said “Police” on the front and “ICE” on the back, Little said. A third person recorded the impersonators, Temple said in a statement.

Police arrived at the residence hall after the men left, but about 10 minutes later, three men were reported to be impersonating ICE and police officers at a nearby Insomnia Cookies, Little said. While two suspects left in an SUV, another suspect, 22-year-old student Aidan Steigelmann, was arrested about 10 p.m., Little said.

Temple said that it suspended Steigelmann and that others who impersonate law enforcement agents could be expelled. Police are still searching for the other two suspects.

“This behavior and harassment of Temple community members will not be tolerated,” the university said in its statement.

Steigelmann was charged with impersonating a public servant. His attorney, Fortunato Perri Jr., said in an email to The Post that Steigelmann recorded video of two others and never identified himself as an ICE agent.

“It was never his intent to violate the law or cause harm to anyone,” Perri said..............

Rash of ICE impersonation follows Trump immigration crackdown, police say​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/02/04/ice-impersonation-arrests-charges-temple/

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

My Governor (NJ Phil Murphy) spoke yesterday and it made my wife and I chuckle that he said he was letting a woman live over his garage...
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[Sendai]

“In 1994, for instance, President Bill Clinton resumed the previous administration’s use of the Guantánamo base for processing Haitian refugees and later ordered Cuban asylum seekers caught at sea to be held on the base. Later that same year, the facility’s migrant population totaled 45,000, according to a government report.”

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[DaveXA]

“In 1994, for instance, President Bill Clinton resumed the previous administration’s use of the Guantánamo base for processing Haitian refugees and later ordered Cuban asylum seekers caught at sea to be held on the base. Later that same year, the facility’s migrant population totaled 45,000, according to a government report.”

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And?

 

[efil4]

“In 1994, for instance, President Bill Clinton resumed the previous administration’s use of the Guantánamo base for processing Haitian refugees and later ordered Cuban asylum seekers caught at sea to be held on the base. Later that same year, the facility’s migrant population totaled 45,000, according to a government report.”

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did you read the government report? any of it? parts of it?

 

[Sendai]

did you read the government report? any of it? parts of it?

You mean like the living conditions are adequate.

 

[Sendai]

And?

It’s something that has been done. So doable.

I wonder how quickly the border crossing numbers would drop if those crossing the border were simply packed off to Cuba and then back home.

 

[DaveXA]

It’s something that has been done. So doable.

I wonder how quickly the border crossing numbers would drop if those crossing the border were simply packed off to Cuba and then back home.

It's been done, sure. I mean, a lot of illegal sheet has been done. I don't support using Gitmo. Never have, never will.

 

[efil4]

You mean like the living conditions are adequate.

no like did you read the report or just rely on the WaPo article?

 

[efil4]

It’s something that has been done. So doable.

I wonder how quickly the border crossing numbers would drop if those crossing the border were simply packed off to Cuba and then back home.

Whats been done? Housing criminals among asylum seeking migrants?

You do realize that Guantanamo, in the period in which you pulled the 45,000, that was over the course of a full year, not all there at the same time AND it was temporary in nature ( "safe haven" in the report ) not a detention center for 10s of 1000s mixed with actual criminals.

read the report

or dont- but keep posting about things you hardly have knowledge about because you wont take the 10-15 min to fully understand that what the WaPo article is referring to was 30 years ago, and a completely different set of circumstances to what we have now.

 

[MT15]

It’s something that has been done. So doable.

I wonder how quickly the border crossing numbers would drop if those crossing the border were simply packed off to Cuba and then back home.

I would think a moral, actual conservative person would oppose any expansion of use of Guantanamo for immigrants not guilty of violent crimes as a serious executive overreach to say nothing of the immoral component.

Guess conservative doesn’t mean what it used to mean.

 

[Sendai]

I would think a moral, actual conservative person would oppose any expansion of use of Guantanamo for immigrants not guilty of violent crimes as a serious executive overreach to say nothing of the immoral component.

Guess conservative doesn’t mean what it used to mean.

I just wondered if using Gitmo would significantly cut down on border crossings. As in, is it worth crossing the border and potentially ending up in Gitmo?

 

[fooferdoggie]

well he got what he wished for he just did not know what he wanted I guess

Cuban Héctor Luis Valdés Cocho is in ICE custody in Florida

Valdés Cocho had been arrested last November amid several fraud accusations.

en.cibercuba.com