Will “mass deportation” actually happen (2 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

[superchuck500]

Brazil slams US after dozens of deportees arrive handcuffed

Brazil's government expressed outrage on Saturday after dozens of immigrants deported from the United States arrived by plane in handcuffs, calling it a "flagrant disregard" for their rights.Justice Minister Ricardo Lewandowski told President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva of "the flagrant disregard...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Sendai]

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Colombia has walked back from the brink of a damaging trade war with the United States, reaching an agreement on accepting deported migrants being returned on military planes, after a flurry of threats from President Donald Trump that included steep tariffs.

Colombia said Sunday evening it had agreed to “all of President Trump’s terms,” including the “unrestricted acceptance” of immigrants who entered the US illegally, after two US military planes carrying deportees were blocked from entering the country.”

Colombia backs down on accepting deportees on military planes after Trump’s tariffs threats | CNN Politics

Colombia has walked back from the brink of a damaging trade war with the United States, reaching an agreement on accepting deported migrants being returned on military planes, after a flurry of threats from President Donald Trump that included steep tariffs.

www.cnn.com

 

[superchuck500]

“
Colombia has walked back from the brink of a damaging trade war with the United States, reaching an agreement on accepting deported migrants being returned on military planes, after a flurry of threats from President Donald Trump that included steep tariffs.

Colombia said Sunday evening it had agreed to “all of President Trump’s terms,” including the “unrestricted acceptance” of immigrants who entered the US illegally, after two US military planes carrying deportees were blocked from entering the country.”

Colombia backs down on accepting deportees on military planes after Trump’s tariffs threats | CNN Politics

Colombia has walked back from the brink of a damaging trade war with the United States, reaching an agreement on accepting deported migrants being returned on military planes, after a flurry of threats from President Donald Trump that included steep tariffs.

www.cnn.com

Yeah, I think it got to be too much for them when Rubio/State joined with threatening Colombian travel and visas in the US (including Colombian government visas).

"Petro blocked the planes from landing, accusing the US of treating Colombian migrants like criminals – prompting Trump to order steep tariffs on all Colombian imports, a travel ban for Colombian citizens, the revoking of visas for Colombian officials in the US, and suspending visa processing for both immigrant and non-immigrant visas."


It’s also still not clear what the arrangement is - did Colombia really totally cave or did the US agree to some terms.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Yeah, I think it got to be too much for them when Rubio/State joined with threatening Colombian travel and visas in the US (including Colombian government visas).

"Petro blocked the planes from landing, accusing the US of treating Colombian migrants like criminals – prompting Trump to order steep tariffs on all Colombian imports, a travel ban for Colombian citizens, the revoking of visas for Colombian officials in the US, and suspending visa processing for both immigrant and non-immigrant visas."


It’s also still not clear what the arrangement is - did Colombia really totally cave or did the US agree to some terms.

My understanding is the US agreed to not transport them in handcuffs anymore.
Petro is a blowhard as well, it seems in keeping with his character to try to pick a fight.

 

[coldseat]

Question: Can ICE go into school classrooms and question students about them and their parents immigration status without the consent of their parents or without any other adults present (including school administrators) during questioning?

My sister works as a nurse in a Florida school district and they just got this directive from their principle (after they had a meeting with their district) that it was okay/legal for ICE to do this.

 

[superchuck500]

Question: Can ICE go into school classrooms and question students about them and their parents immigration status without the consent of their parents or without any other adults present (including school administrators) during questioning?

My sister works as a nurse in a Florida school district and they just got this directive from their principle (after they had a meeting with their district) that it was okay/legal for ICE to do this.

I'm not 100% sure on this but I have looked at it before and I think you have to evaluate it based on two different sets of criteria. In general, an "immigration check" by law enforcement is voluntary response by the person being checked - they can simply decline. If the officer takes additional steps to indicate that it is not voluntary or there will be steps taken for the person's failure to respond, that is a detention under the 4th Amendment . . . and they can't do that without genuine probable cause to believe that a crime may reasonably have been committed (i.e. that the person was an illegal immigrant).

But there is the exception of when they literally check everyone - like at some of the checkpoints on the highway in the border states. Because everyone is checked for documents, it's no longer a probable cause question to ask for identification - and the failure to produce documentation may lead to additional screening.

Schools used to be considered "sensitive areas" where immigration officers would not conduct screens or raids. Six days ago, DHS changed that policy - but that doesn't mean that the officers have authority to disregard probable cause rules. But I don't know exactly what these raids are - are they targeted to investigate specific students they believe are undocumented or are they screens where they check everyone? And how do they do that when people under 18 are typically not legally required to carry documentation? I'm just not sure what's really going on in these "raids".

 

[superchuck500]

I'm not 100% sure on this but I have looked at it before and I think you have to evaluate it based on two different sets of criteria. In general, an "immigration check" by law enforcement is voluntary response by the person being checked - they can simply decline. If the officer takes additional steps to indicate that it is not voluntary or there will be steps taken for the person's failure to respond, that is a detention under the 4th Amendment . . . and they can't do that without genuine probable cause to believe that a crime may reasonably have been committed (i.e. that the person was an illegal immigrant).

But there is the exception of when they literally check everyone - like at some of the checkpoints on the highway in the border states. Because everyone is checked for documents, it's no longer a probable cause question to ask for identification - and the failure to produce documentation may lead to additional screening.

Schools used to be considered "sensitive areas" where immigration officers would not conduct screens or raids. Six days ago, DHS changed that policy - but that doesn't mean that the officers have authority to disregard probable cause rules. But I don't know exactly what these raids are - are they targeted to investigate specific students they believe are undocumented or are they screens where they check everyone? And how do they do that when people under 18 are typically not legally required to carry documentation? I'm just not sure what's really going on in these "raids".

So just further on this, it is accurate that the Supreme Court has allowed basic ICE immigration "checks" at public places including worksites where ICE agents can ask individuals questions about their status without additional probable cause - but this is based on the conclusion that these are not detentions . . . which means that the person being questioned does not have to respond and can even go about their business undeterred.

Beyond that, immigration officers need either a warrant (or ICE equivalent) or they need actual probable cause, and this is because beyond the mere voluntary questioning, it becomes a 4th Amendment situation.

I highly suspect that these entries into schools are based on existing investigations about specific individuals where there may be warrants or at least probable cause. Otherwise, I have a hard time believing that the voluntary questioning at a public place or worksite rule would similarly apply to minors at a school - but maybe it does.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10362