Will “mass deportation” actually happen (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

[Texan1211]

Legally is whatever we decide it is.

The law is the law.

You can’t hide behind the law

Nor should one ignore the law.

 

[samiam5211]

The law is the law.


Nor should one ignore the law.

The law is whatever we decide it is.

Stop hiding like a coward.

 

[Texan1211]

The law is whatever we decide it is.

What an ignorant comment. The law isn't what we decide it is, it is what passes and is signed into law.

Stop hiding like a coward.

Stop whining.

 

[MT15]

Nobody who is a fiscal conservative would support this reckless use of taxpayer money, unless they are gleeful about threatening people about coming here. Abbott is a complete sociopath, a warped little coward of a man who likes to posture as if he’s a tough guy but is actually a piss ant of a person.

As System says - these billboards won’t make any difference at all. And anyone who thinks about the situation honestly for a minute would realize that.

People send their kids here out of sheer desperation. Think how desperate they must be to do such a thing.

 

[Texan1211]

As System says - these billboards won’t make any difference at all. And anyone who thinks about the situation honestly for a minute would realize that.

Seems weird to get upset over them if they will make no difference.

 

[MT15]

Seems weird to get upset over them if they will make no difference.

Well, the abject cruelty and the wasted taxpayer money should count for something.

But - I’m not upset. Just confirms what scumbags we have running TX and on the right in general. Used to it these days, to be honest.

 

[Texan1211]

Well, the abject cruelty and the wasted taxpayer money should count for something.

What was cruel?
We waste billions every single year. Big deal, and if you aren't living in Texas, I don't think you are contributing anyway.

But - I’m not upset.

Ok. Then what is your point?

 

[MT15]

Ok. Then what is your point?

oh, gee, thought I was allowed to state my opinion on this discussion board.

My point was very obvious - the billboards are cruel and stupid and a waste of taxpayer money.

 

[Texan1211]

oh, gee, thought I was allowed to state my opinion on this discussion board.

Did anyone tell you otherwise? or merely playing 'victim'?

My point was very obvious - the billboards are cruel

How so?

We waste far more money--probably every single day on just as controversial or stupid stuff.

 

[MT15]

Did anyone tell you otherwise? or merely playing 'victim'?

How so?

We waste far more money--probably every single day on just as controversial or stupid stuff.

Not playing victim, just incredulous that you seemed to not get a point that obvious and stated that plainly.

Saying this:

How much did you pay to have your daughter raped?”

“Your wife and daughter will pay for the trip with their bodies.”

“If you cross into Texas illegally, you will regret it forever.”

Doesn’t seem to be cruel to you? Telling parents that they are responsible for their daughter’s rapes?

The one that talks about wife and daughter seems incredibly paternalistic as well.

Let’s say you paid for your daughter to go on a Senior Trip to the Bahamas and she had the misfortune to have been raped there. Would you take kindly to being asked that first question?

 

[Texan1211]

Telling parents that they are responsible for their daughter’s rapes?

I think parents who send their daughters with coyotes to cross the border illegally certainly bear some responsibility. I would never put a child in that situation.

 

[Texan1211]

Let’s say you paid for your daughter to go on a Senior Trip to the Bahamas and she had the misfortune to have been raped there. Would you take kindly to being asked that first question?

Oh, gee, let's compare, shall we?
Okay, I bought her plane tickets, made sure the trip was being chaperoned, paid for her stay in a nice hotel, and made sure she had money to pay for food and drinks not included in the cost of the trip. I have her phone number and the numbers of the school, the chaperones, and the hotel.
Compare to:
I sent my daughter with coyotes who I have no knowledge of on a dangerous, long trip to ultimately cross the border illegally. I am not sure if she us traveling by foot, bus, car, train, or horse. I don't know if the coyotes work for a drug cartel or are human smugglers, but I heard from a cousin of a cousin of a friend that these coyotes were all cool. I have no idea if she sleeps in a bed or if she is safe or not. I don't know the food and water situation.

Go right ahead and compare.

 

[Dragon]

Imagine living in a place where gangs hold all the power, and your daughter faces constant danger—not only the threat of rape but of being killed. You have one chance to get her to safety, a slim hope that by paying someone, she could escape to a safer place. You know the risks involved, but staying seems far more dangerous than the unknown.

What would you do?

Desperation often forces people into desperate actions, driven by the instinct to protect those they love.

 

[Texan1211]

What would you do?

Take her with me when I leave the God-forsaken hellhole I am living in while wondering why I chose to tolerate it for so long.

 

[MT15]

Take her with me when I leave the God-forsaken hellhole I am living in while wondering why I chose to tolerate it for so long.

Do you not see your hypocrisy here?

 

[Texan1211]

Do you not see your hypocrisy here?

No hypocrisy.
I would choose to leave a place as described. Doesn't mean I would go anywhere illegally. Or send my kid alone.

 

[Dragon]

No hypocrisy.
I would choose to leave a place as described. Doesn't mean I would go anywhere illegally. Or send my kid alone.

You may only have enough money to send 1 person. Would you go yourself and leave your family unprotected or send your child ? And if illegal was your only choice would you still stay considering the fact that it would mean that your family would die ?

 

[MT15]

Oh, gee, let's compare, shall we?
Okay, I bought her plane tickets, made sure the trip was being chaperoned, paid for her stay in a nice hotel, and made sure she had money to pay for food and drinks not included in the cost of the trip. I have her phone number and the numbers of the school, the chaperones, and the hotel.
Compare to:
I sent my daughter with coyotes who I have no knowledge of on a dangerous, long trip to ultimately cross the border illegally. I am not sure if she us traveling by foot, bus, car, train, or horse. I don't know if the coyotes work for a drug cartel or are human smugglers, but I heard from a cousin of a cousin of a friend that these coyotes were all cool. I have no idea if she sleeps in a bed or if she is safe or not. I don't know the food and water situation.

Go right ahead and compare.

Perfect illustration of the way you and others think. You see the hypothetical action taken by you as totally fine, reasonable even. And you see the action of the hypothetical Central American father as horrible, reckless and dangerous. And then you stop thinking, secure in your own smug self-congratulation.

Yet you never question what sort of conditions would lead this other father to do something this desperate. No, you just assume he’s a bad person. You assume other people are not like you, because they don’t have the resources you have.

I assure you most fathers are like you - they love their kids just as much. Instead of judging this hypothetical person, you should try to imagine what would be happening in his life to make that choice for his daughter a risk he and she are willing to take.