Will “mass deportation” actually happen (7 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

[DaveXA]

Perhaps they don’t give two sheets either.

We should implement a policy on the border that works best for us. They can be helpful in that endeavor. If they chose not to help then they should be prepared to accept the consequences. We should be prepared to accept the consequences as well.

I mean, whatever floats your boat, but ultimately, we're supposed to be the big brother who can help the little brother instead of sheeting on him. If being a bully makes you feel better, I guess that's your prerogative.

 

[TampaJoe]

I mean, whatever floats your boat, but ultimately, we're supposed to be the big brother who can help the little brother instead of sheeting on him. If being a bully makes you feel better, I guess that's your prerogative.

Nobody is bullying Mexico. Call it that if it makes you feel better. They aren’t our “little brother”. They are a sovereign nation with responsibilities for their policy positions. I expect them to do what is in their best interest. So should we.

I think it’s in the best interest of both countries that our borders and our border laws are respected and enforced. You may feel differently. That’s your prerogative.

 

[Dragon]

I guess that depends on your perspective when it comes to “bullying”. They are a neighbor and a trading partner. They need to cooperate on the border. If they won’t do that then perhaps they aren’t the neighbor or trading partner we think they are.

They have a choice to make. Choices have consequences.

Well yes. the US could lose friends that way and maybe that is what Trump (and Putin) wants ? But you apparently are ok with that since you support Trump.

Trump is a bully who hates the word no and hates women in power. We have seen several examples of that

 

[Dragon]

I can still remember what happened when our prime minister refused to sell a part of our country. Trump behaved like a sullen spoiled child

 

[TampaJoe]

I mean, whatever floats your boat, but ultimately, we're supposed to be the big brother who can help the little brother instead of sheeting on him. If being a bully makes you feel better, I guess that's your prerogative.

Nobody is bullying Mexico. Call it that if it makes you feel better. They aren’t our “little brother”. They are a sovereign nation with responsibilities for their policy positions. I expect them to do what is in their best interest. So should we.

I think it’s in the best interest of both countries that our borders and our border laws are respected and enforced. You may feel differently. That’s your prerogative

Well yes. the US could lose friends that way and maybe that is what Trump (and Putin) wants ? But you apparently are ok with that since you support Trump.

Trump is a bully who hates the word no and hates women in power. We have seen several examples of that

I am okay with supporting our border laws. I didn’t vote for Trump so you are wasting your time trying on that tired worn out talking point.

 

[Dragon]

Nobody is bullying Mexico. Call it that if it makes you feel better. They aren’t our “little brother”. They are a sovereign nation with responsibilities for their policy positions. I expect them to do what is in their best interest. So should we.

I think it’s in the best interest of both countries that our borders and our border laws are respected and enforced. You may feel differently. That’s your prerogative

I am okay with supporting our border laws. I didn’t vote for Trump so you are wasting your time trying on that tired worn out talking point.

This is what Trump is contemplating. Is that ok with you ?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-team-said-debating-much-232551873.html

Invading a peaceful neighbor ???

 

[TampaJoe]

This is what Trump is contemplating. Is that ok with you ?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-team-said-debating-much-232551873.html

Invading a peaceful neighbor ???

Would a peaceful neighbor allow multiple drug cartels to operate freely on their side of the border to the detriment of both countries?

I support war on illegal drug cartels. Hopefully it will be a mutually beneficial cooperative effort between the US and Mexico. If not then we should do what we have to do to protect our borders and our citizens from drug cartels.

 

[Dragon]

Would a peaceful neighbor allow multiple drug cartels to operate freely on their side of the border to the detriment of both countries?

I support war on illegal drug cartels. Hopefully it will be a mutually beneficial cooperative effort between the US and Mexico. If not then we should do what we have to do to protect our borders and our citizens from drug cartels.

You could turn that argument around as well. Most of the cartel’s guns are imported from the U.S., causing significant harm in Mexico. Should Mexico then be allowed to take similar actions to protect its people from U.S. firearms? The disregard for other countries' sovereignty has been a long-standing issue with the U.S. for centuries. But then again, many Trump supporters don’t seem to care about laws and, like Trump, act as though laws, treaties, or agreements don’t matter if they see an advantage in breaking them. It’s like a spoiled, privileged child who follows every urge, thinking it makes them look strong, when in reality, they’re undermining the U.S.’s standing and empowering authoritarians like Putin and Xi.

 

[TampaJoe]

You could turn that argument around as well. Most of the cartel’s guns are imported from the U.S., causing significant harm in Mexico. Should Mexico then be allowed to take similar actions to protect its people from U.S. firearms? The disregard for other countries' sovereignty has been a long-standing issue with the U.S. for centuries. But then again, many Trump supporters don’t seem to care about laws and, like Trump, act as though laws, treaties, or agreements don’t matter if they see an advantage in breaking them. It’s like a spoiled, privileged child who follows every urge, thinking it makes them look strong, when in reality, they’re undermining the U.S.’s standing and empowering authoritarians like Putin and Xi.

And you know what impresses Putin and Xi? Just like you know what is in their mind of people who want to see our borders respected and our laws enforced.

Our play “nice” border policy hasn’t worked. So we need to do what we must to enforce our border. That’s one of the Presidents main duties. I’m all for diplomacy with Mexico. That’s where we are and hopefully they come along. But at the end of the day, the government has an obligation to our citizens to enforce fully passed laws and to protect our borders and our citizens. Now you can call that “bullying” all you want. That’s up to you. And I don’t give a short if it impresses Putin or Xi. POTUS should spend more time worrying about impressing and protecting our citizens. If he has spent more time on that and less time working on his tan, he might have won in Nov.

 

[Dragon]

And you know what impresses Putin and Xi? Just like you know what is in their mind of people who want to see our borders respected and our laws enforced.

Our play “nice” border policy hasn’t worked. So we need to do what we must to enforce our border. That’s one of the Presidents main duties. I’m all for diplomacy with Mexico. That’s where we are and hopefully they come along. But at the end of the day, the government has an obligation to our citizens to enforce fully passed laws and to protect our borders and our citizens. Now you can call that “bullying” all you want. That’s up to you. And I don’t give a short if it impresses Putin or Xi. POTUS should spend more time worrying about impressing and protecting our citizens. If he has spent more time on that and less time working on his tan, he might have won in Nov.

How would you feel it Mexico invaded the US to stop the gun smugling ?

Biden has done more to protect the US during his 4 years than Trump did during his....

 

[TampaJoe]

How would you feel it Mexico invaded the US to stop the gun smugling ?

Biden has done more to protect the US during his 4 years than Trump did during his....

I think it would be more productive to work on a cooperative basis to reduce gun smuggling. I think the US would be more than happy to join with Mexico in such an endeavour and render the need for a Mexican incursion into the US moot.

Mexico should take the same attitude with the US and work with us in a mutually beneficial arrangement to curtail Drug smuggling and human trafficking.
Just a thought.

 

[Dragon]

I think it would be more productive to work on a cooperative basis to reduce gun smuggling. I think the US would be more than happy to join with Mexico in such an endeavour and render the need for a Mexican incursion into the US moot.

Mexico should take the same attitude with the US and work with us in a mutually beneficial arrangement to curtail Drug smuggling and human trafficking.
Just a thought.

They already are... Just like the US supposedly cooperates when it comes to gun smugling. Fact is that the US is doing close to nothing to stop that since it is big business. Would you accept mexican millitary on US soil? fair should be fair right ?

 

[coldseat]

I think it would be more productive to work on a cooperative basis to reduce gun smuggling. I think the US would be more than happy to join with Mexico in such an endeavour and render the need for a Mexican incursion into the US moot.

Yes, because the US gun lobby is willing to give up that revenue stream, lol. That's so naive it's precious.

 

[coldseat]

Well then Mexico has a decision to make and will need to be prepared to accept the consequences. I have a feeling the incoming POTUS will expect them to cooperate significantly on the border. He has already signalled that he is prepared to lean on them very hard to get what he wants.

My guess is that you will see a return to the previous “remain in Mexico” policy.

This is going to be great for Texas. I can't wait for all of the griping and moaning from the business class and minorities that voted for Trump once all this starts and the reality hits them in the face and the economy in this state starts to collapse and their families are broken up. And then watch as the Republican Talbin in this state tells them to go pound sand and take it, just like Mexico.



I have no idea how this plays out, but if Trump carries out his promises ........

 

[TampaJoe]

They already are... Just like the US supposedly cooperates when it comes to gun smugling. Fact is that the US is doing close to nothing to stop that since it is big business. Would you accept mexican millitary on US soil? fair should be fair right ?

I highly doubt Mexico would cross the border. If they needed our cooperation I’m sure they would get it. All they need do is ask.

Hopefully Mexico will fully cooperate with the US requests of them and there will be no need for direct action against the cartels.

I think that it is reasonable for us to take direct action against the cartels if Mexico either cannot or will not do it themselves or with our cooperation.

Are you okay with illegal cartels dealing in illegal drugs and human trafficking across the border?

Bottomline. POTUS needs to do what he/she needs to do to enforce our laws and to defend our shores. We can start with diplomacy. Hopefully that works. If that does not work than additional action might be required.

What we have been doing for the last 4 years hasn’t worked.

 

[bird]

Perhaps they don’t give two sheets either.

We should implement a policy on the border that works best for us. They can be helpful in that endeavor. If they chose not to help then they should be prepared to accept the consequences. We should be prepared to accept the consequences as well.

Trump has no interest in a policy “that works best for us.” Principally because he has no idea what that is beyond rhetoric aimed at his base. And, once again, you ignore that YOUR party put together a bill with Democratic support that gave YOUR party the vast majority of what they wanted. Then YOUR party collapsed like a pile of invertebrates when Trump told Mike Johnson to not bring it to a vote. Go birch to YOUR party.

 

[bird]

Nobody is bullying Mexico. Call it that if it makes you feel better. They aren’t our “little brother”. They are a sovereign nation with responsibilities for their policy positions. I expect them to do what is in their best interest. So should we.

I think it’s in the best interest of both countries that our borders and our border laws are respected and enforced. You may feel differently. That’s your prerogative

I am okay with supporting our border laws. I didn’t vote for Trump so you are wasting your time trying on that tired worn out talking point.

You voted for Republicans that kowtow to Trump and support Trump. You have tried that weasel maneuver in the past. It failed then as now.

 

[TampaJoe]

You voted for Republicans that kowtow to Trump and support Trump. You have tried that weasel maneuver in the past. It failed then as now.

You voted for people who were willing to put a man clearly past his prime back in the Oval Office and lied to the public for two to three years about it. That’s a weasel maneuver and it clearly failed.

I vote for conservatives. Two things can be true at the same time Bird. You can be a conservative and not support Trump. Show me a conservative Dem and I will consider voting for them.