Where is DeSantis? (1 Viewer)

[SystemShock]

Look at all of these rumors... surrounding me every day...

 

[MT15]

What I meant to say was that I don’t believe there are any deaths attributable to the mRNA vaccines in the United States. And the R head of my state’s Health Department says there have been no deaths in my state attributed to any of the Covid vaccines, including J&J. And that’s after millions of doses. The state Dept of Health investigates every entry in the VAERS from our state, in addition to the federal docs that are looking at them.

These are extremely safe vaccines, even the J&J.

 

[MT15]

I get that, but I don't see how Florida is a death hell scape when all the lock down politicians are vacationing there. I know I would not want to vacation where people are dropping the street, now matter how great the weather is.

Okay - now this is a straw man, Farb, lol. As I understand it going from memory a straw man is when you advance an argument that nobody on the other side is saying and then argue against it. I don’t recall anyone saying that Florida is a “death hell scape” nor that “people are dropping in the street”.

I have some trouble with some of these myself, so I’m sure if I’m wrong about this someone will correct me, lol.

 

[Farb]

Yeah, that wicked burn he gave sure was some great governance on his part.

DeSantis should just rename himself DePetty.

You mean the burn where she said that anyone bringing her up 'wants to date' her? Yeah, she is prime example of mature leadership.

I appreciate a politicians that punches back. You all do too.

 

[Farb]

Okay - now this is a straw man, Farb, lol. As I understand it going from memory a straw man is when you advance an argument that nobody on the other side is saying and then argue against it. I don’t recall anyone saying that Florida is a “death hell scape” nor that “people are dropping in the street”.

I have some trouble with some of these myself, so I’m sure if I’m wrong about this someone will correct me, lol.

Really, never heard of 'deathSantis'? I think someone is being obtuse.

 

[MT15]

So, have you seen that term used here lately? A quick search shows a couple of times last August….

Do you think the fact that others have used the term gives you the right to expand on it like you did?To put words in my mouth or others who didn’t use the term?

 

[Farb]

So, have you seen that term used here lately? A quick search shows a couple of times last August….

Do you think the fact that others have used the term gives you the right to expand on it like you did?To put words in my mouth or others who didn’t use the term?

So the left and the left media isn't painting DeSantis response to the pandemic as a failure?

 

[wardorican]

You mean the burn where she said that anyone bringing her up 'wants to date' her? Yeah, she is prime example of mature leadership.

I appreciate a politicians that punches back. You all do too.

So long as they govern. That's still #1. Punching back is OK, as a small part of the job. Just punching back is pretty useless.

And I posted a whole lot more.

 

[wardorican]

So the left and the left media isn't painting DeSantis response to the pandemic as a failure?

Failure? More so last year. Which was a bit misguided. But I do think criticism on his lack of energy towards it lately and his weird vaccine about face is problematic. Politicians generally employ hyperbole.

But, it's not just the left. Trump is calling him and others trying to be coy about their vaccination/boost status, "gutless". I agree with him there.

 

[Farb]

I am 100% for people getting the vaccine. If they want one. I won't be getting one. I also think the 'pandemic' has been played out long enough and everyone, besides the corp media (fear sells clicks) is over it, so I don't fault him. Even the Dems are starting to back up from the pandemic train a bit as it is not resounding with voters as it did for the 1st 2 years and it turns out Biden's promise of 'shutting down the virus' proved a miserable failure.

I think now we should move on to where it came from and who funded it.

 

[MT15]

You think everything that happens with the virus is political? You cannot acknowledge that there is a new variant which has and will completely change the facts of the pandemic? Come on, Farb. The democrats aren’t changing what they say because of public pressure from anti-vaxxers. It’s scientists who are telling us about the changes that are taking place with the virus. The virus isn’t political and you and all your right wing folks should quit politicizing everything about it.

That’s how we ended up with almost a million dead people.

 

[coldseat]

I am 100% for people getting the vaccine. If they want one. I won't be getting one. I also think the 'pandemic' has been played out long enough and everyone, besides the corp media (fear sells clicks) is over it, so I don't fault him. Even the Dems are starting to back up from the pandemic train a bit as it is not resounding with voters as it did for the 1st 2 years and it turns out Biden's promise of 'shutting down the virus' proved a miserable failure.

I think now we should move on to where it came from and who funded it.

Yeah, all those people in hospitals right now because they're unvaccinated and have Omicron as well as the doctors and nurses caring for them (even though they likely wouldn't have to if those people had gotten vaccinated) just need to get over it. All of that is just media hype and politics as usual. Those people just need to go home, they'll be fine.

Republicans are the miserable failures in this pandemic.

 

[CoolBrees]

Even if all 10,000 deaths are accurate and truly related to the vaccine, that is an insignificant percentage.

There have been over 9 billion doses administered. That’s 9,000,000,000.

So if you take 10,000 / 9,000,000,000 you end up with .0000011 or .00011%

Statistically insignificant

 

[Farb]

You think everything that happens with the virus is political? You cannot acknowledge that there is a new variant which has and will completely change the facts of the pandemic? Come on, Farb. The democrats aren’t changing what they say because of public pressure from anti-vaxxers. It’s scientists who are telling us about the changes that are taking place with the virus. The virus isn’t political and you and all your right wing folks should quit politicizing everything about it.

That’s how we ended up with almost a million dead people.

I don't think the virus is political. I think the responses are 100% political. I think the scientist that are 'leading' us are political.

Million dies with the virus or because of the virus?

 

[Farb]

Republicans are the miserable failures in this pandemic.

I agree with you 100% on this. The republican party has been and continues to be a big steaming pile of failure. Sadly, I don't see that changing any time soon.

 

[Farb]

Even if all 10,000 deaths are accurate and truly related to the vaccine, that is an insignificant percentage.

There have been over 9 billion doses administered. That’s 9,000,000,000.

So if you take 10,000 / 9,000,000,000 you end up with .0000011 or .00011%

Statistically insignificant

I was told no one has dies because of the vaccine.

Since we are discussing insignificant percentages, how many kids have died from the wuhan virus? Now compare that to the amount of children that have been exposed. Do we still need to push to vax children?

Your answer will be 'yes' because that is what they told you (as I put my feet up on the desk with my tinfoil hat on).

 

[MT15]

I don't think the virus is political. I think the responses are 100% political. I think the scientist that are 'leading' us are political.

Million dies with the virus or because of the virus?

Because of, don’t listen to people who are lying to you. Physicians take filling out a death certificate pretty seriously in my experience. They do not just make stuff up, not in the real world.

Scientists are the least political profession there is, as a whole. I know there are some, but they are almost entirely on the anti-vax side. Near 100%. By training scientists will go where the facts lead them or they won’t last long in their field. If you mean Fauci, he’s not political either. You are listening to lies.

 

[Port City JJ]

Because of, don’t listen to people who are lying to you. Physicians take filling out a death certificate pretty seriously in my experience. They do not just make stuff up, not in the real world.

Scientists are the least political profession there is, as a whole. I know there are some, but they are almost entirely on the anti-vax side. Near 100%. By training scientists will go where the facts lead them or they won’t last long in their field. If you mean Fauci, he’s not political either. You are PARROTING lies.

FIFY

 

[coldseat]

I don't think the virus is political. I think the responses are 100% political. I think the scientist that are 'leading' us are political.

Million dies with the virus or because of the virus?

You believe that the government health officials promoting, encouraging and/or mandating vaccines for Covid-19 is political?

What is it that you believe it is that they should be doing?