What happens to the Republican Party now? (1 Viewer)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

even 2-3% of voter change in a lot of states makes a big difference. that's why the indictments are ultimately will hurt. most of the fence sitters aren't gonna go with Trump, they are the ones who make or break elections.

 

[J-DONK]

There's a risk that comes with that strategy. There are factors that cause inflation to rise that no one government can control. If Biden claims responsibility for bringing down inflation and factors outside his control increases inflation leading up to the election, then people will get nervous about the economy again and they'll blame Biden for it. Any effort by Biden to point out factors outside his control is increasing inflation will probably fall on deaf ears.

He has to walk a fine line with just how much he claims responsibility for the current economic improvements until the general election is just a couple of months away.

Democrats need to do something about the economy messaging between now, and next November. The economic numbers are so good. Republicans swapped back to debt scares.

 

[MT15]

Remember when TX took over Houston’s largest school districts, decided to fire librarians and turn the libraries into detention halls? Here is one parent’s response. Personally I don‘t know how TX can justify their actions.

 

[CoolBrees]

Ms. Ashley needs to run for state wide office, if not national, screw school board.

Her ability to speak passionately without losing her composure is one of the most difficult things to do. And she dog walked him. Off the cuff. On camera.

That was truly enjoyable to watch.

 

[bdb13]

Don't see it.

When there are only two choices again, Trump will have no chance to make up enough voters due to:

1) R's Dying - age and Covid. This can't be overstated. Hundreds of thousands of his voters have died since 2020.
2) I's Fed up - his legal troubles are going to hurt with independents; who support the investigations according to surveys. He has to win independents, not just hold the ones he had.

3) Youth vote - this too is understated at this point. Hundreds of thousands of new voters are of age. And they vote. And oh man are they pissed. Abortion is going to be their death knell.

To that last point, saw this article today:

Democrats are calling for their 2024 candidates to reengage with young voters amid signs that the critical voting bloc may be distancing from the party.

Recent polling has found the number of young people who identify as Democrats is on a slight decline, while President Biden has seen wavering support from the demographic that played a pivotal role in his victory over former President Trump in 2020.

Adding to the concerns is a recent analysis from John Della Volpe, the polling director at the Harvard Kennedy Institute of Politics, who pointed to possible struggles the party faces with voters between 18 and 29.

“Nearly every sign that made me confident in historic levels of youth participation in 2018, 2020, and 2022 — is now flashing red,” Della Volpe wrote in his analysis of 2024, adding “the ground is more fertile for voting when youth believe voting makes a tangible difference.”
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... The share of younger voters who say they’ll “definitely” vote in the 2024 race is now at 51 percent in the Harvard poll, down from 55 percent who said the same at this point in the 2020 race.

Democrats worry young people souring on party

Democrats are calling for their 2024 candidates to reengage with young voters amid signs that the critical voting bloc may be distancing from the party. Recent polling has found the number of young…

thehill.com

 

[MT15]

To that last point, saw this article today:

Democrats worry young people souring on party

Democrats are calling for their 2024 candidates to reengage with young voters amid signs that the critical voting bloc may be distancing from the party. Recent polling has found the number of young…

thehill.com

IMO, and it’s worth what you paid for it , you will see a lot of articles like this between now and the election, some of them possibly planted by Dems. Dems need to keep people thinking that Trump is on the verge of winning, because they need high turn out. High turnout = Democratic victory. Everyone knows that, that’s why Rs are always trying to suppress turnout.

 

[MT15]

How can the TX GOP justify their hostile takeover of a local school district to do this?

 

[MT15]

About Rs suppressing turnout - I’ve seen more than one state now limit drop boxes or early voting to one location per county. This is carefully calibrated to be a problem in counties that have large populations, or cities, and no problem at all for rural counties. It defies all common sense to set a limit by county rather than by population, unless your objective is to make voting really inconvenient for city dwellers (read Democrats and POC) and not affect the convenience for rural communities. It’s transparently partisan.

 

[DaveXA]

About Rs suppressing turnout - I’ve seen more than one state now limit drop boxes or early voting to one location per county. This is carefully calibrated to be a problem in counties that have large populations, or cities, and no problem at all for rural counties. It defies all common sense to set a limit by county rather than by population, unless your objective is to make voting really inconvenient for city dwellers (read Democrats and POC) and not affect the convenience for rural communities. It’s transparently partisan.

They should just make mail in voting the standard in every state and get rid of all this vote suppression nonsense. No lines, no suppression, no intimidation, etc. It would solve so many issues.

 

[MT15]

They should just make mail in voting the standard in every state and get rid of all this vote suppression nonsense. No lines, no suppression, no intimidation, etc. It would solve so many issues.

Rs will never do that - they are causing the issues, they want the issues. But only in places that vote heavily for Dems. In order to get voting made more convenient for everyone, we will have to elect Democrats everywhere.

 

[DaveXA]

Rs will never do that - they are causing the issues, they want the issues. But only in places that vote heavily for Dems. In order to get voting made more convenient for everyone, we will have to elect Democrats everywhere.

I tend to agree. But hopefully more states will look at allowing mail in voting without requiring a reason to do so.

But yeah, the Rs need their pet issues so I don't see that being fully implemented anytime soon.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Rs will never do that - they are causing the issues, they want the issues. But only in places that vote heavily for Dems. In order to get voting made more convenient for everyone, we will have to elect Democrats everywhere.

And they‘ve admitted that if voting were easier it would be much harder for republicans to win state/national elections (although they were trying to frame it as the rampant fraud by democrats would be insurmountable)

 

[MT15]

So, just 24 hours before the August election, they have changed voting locations in 2 counties in OH. these two counties are Cleveland and Akron. Edit: it was several days ago, upon further reading. Still way too close to the election to change that many polling places.

 

[MT15]

Putting this here because I don’t know who needs to see it, but this stupid assertion has come up on Twitter quite a bit today.

 

[MT15]

guys, this may be our answer, lol:

 

[MT15]

What a busybody

 

[MT15]

With multiple major R candidates for president now pledging to defund / abolish the federal agencies they don’t like, this article has a real point. Bannon, with Trump’s help, has turned the GOP into a counterculture party who wants to destroy the US institutions that would stand in their way. The leftists of the 1960’s never, ever got this close to power, nor has any communist or socialist in this country.

If you went back and told Nixon or Reagan that the GOP would be campaigning on “slitting the throats” of government workers, abolishing the IRS, FBI, Dept, of Education, etc. they would have had you checked for drugs. Yet, here we are. The GOP has just gone totally off the rails, and nobody in senior leadership in the party is really doing much to even speak out against their nihilism.

 

[insidejob]

What a busybody

I would slap this birch if I saw her doing that to the one around the corner from me.