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    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



     
    Optimus Prime said:
    I’m sure this will be legal soon enough
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    Three McDonald’s franchisees in Kentucky have been fined after an investigation by the Department of Labor determined that they employed more than 300 children who worked longer hours than the law permits, among other violations.

    One franchisee had two 10-year-olds working at its locations, without pay, as late as 2 a.m., with one operating a deep fryer, a task forbidden by children under 16, according to the Labor Department.


    Bauer Food, which operates 10 locations in Louisville, was fined nearly $40,000 for violations including employing the 10-year-olds, who “prepared and distributed food orders, cleaned the store, worked at the drive-thru window and operated a register,” according to the department.

    “Under no circumstances should there ever be a 10-year-old child working in a fast-food kitchen around hot grills, ovens and deep fryers,” said wage and hour division district director Karen Garnett-Civils in a news release………

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    She should have just stopped at the bolded part.
     
    Guess here is a good spot for this

    2 questions, maybe @superchuck500 can help

    1. Why no fines/penalties etc on Lake herself?

    2. “False factual statements” seems to be code for bald faced lies, why wouldn’t they have to reimburse the defense for the legal costs of defending a case build on “false factual statements”?
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    Lawyers for Kari Lake, the failed Republican gubernatorial candidate, were sanctioned $2,000 on Thursday by the Arizona supreme court in their unsuccessful challenge of her defeat in the governor’s race last year to Democrat Katie Hobbs.

    In an order, the state’s highest court said Lake’s attorney made “false factual statements” that more than 35,000 ballots had been improperly added to the total ballot count, imposing 10 days to submit payment.

    The court, however, refused to order Lake to pay attorney fees to cover the costs of defending Hobbs and Secretary of State Adrian Fontes, also a Democrat, in Lake’s appeal.

    The chief justice, Robert Brutinel, said Lake’s challenge over signature verification remains unresolved.

    Hobbs and Fontes said Lake and her attorneys should face sanctions for baselessly claiming that more than 35,000 ballots were inserted into the race at a facility where a contractor scanned mail-in ballots to prepare them for county election workers to process and count.

    When the state’s high court first confronted Lake’s challenge in late March, justices said the evidence didn’t show that more than 35,000 ballots were added to the vote count in Maricopa county, home to more than 60% of the state’s voters.

    Lawyers for Hobbs and Fontes told the court that Lake and her lawyers misrepresented evidence and were hurting the elections process by continuing to push baseless claims of election fraud. Attorneys for Fontes asked for the court to order Lake’s lawyers to forfeit any money they might have earned in making the appeal, arguing that they shouldn’t be allowed to benefit from their own misconduct.

    Lake’s lawyers said sanctions weren’t appropriate because no one can doubt that Lake honestly believes her race was determined by electoral misconduct…….

    www.theguardian.com

    Kari Lake’s lawyers fined over ‘false factual statements’ on election fraud

    Arizona high court found no evidence of the failed gubernatorial candidate’s claim of 35,000 fraudulent votes in election
    www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
     
    MT15 said:
    The fact that senior Senators in the GOP are engaging in this smear is just disgusting.

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    I mean…at least they aren’t going so far as to say “look, we will accuse you of crimes until you prove your innocence.”

     
    Optimus Prime said:
    MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Fourteen-year-olds in Wisconsin could serve alcohol to seated customers in bars and restaurants under a bill circulated for cosponsors Monday by a pair of Republican state lawmakers.

    Under current law, only workers age 18 and above can serve alcohol to customers in Wisconsin. The bill would broaden that to workers ages 14 to 17. They could only serve to seated customers, not drinkers who are at the bar itself.

    The current age limit on serving alcohol “causes workforce issues due to an establishment’s underage employees only being able to do part of their job,” the bill sponsors Sen. Rob Stafsholt, of New Richmond, and Rep. Chanz Green, of Grandview, said in a memo circulated Monday seeking cosponsors.

    They said their idea “creates a simple solution” to the state’s workforce shortage problems in the food and beverage industry. The bill requires the licensed operator of the bar or restaurant be on the premises and supervising……

    apnews.com

    Bill would allow 14-year-olds to serve alcohol in Wisconsin

    Fourteen-year-olds in Wisconsin could serve alcohol to seated customers in bars and restaurants under a bill circulated for cosponsors by a pair of Republican state lawmakers. Under current law, only workers age 18 and above can serve alcohol to customers in Wisconsin. The bill circulated Monday...
    apnews.com apnews.com
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    While their motives are sus, I don't really understand why minors who work aren't allowed to serve alcohol. It's not like they're drinking or without a manager present if there's an issue with the alcohol being served. I worked at the bowling alley when I was 16 and I wasn't allowed to handle transactions involving alcohol and always thought it was a dumb rule.
     
    To Mark Robinson, gay and transgender people are “filth”, homosexuality is an abominable sin, and the transgender movement is “demonic” and “full of the spirit of the antichrist”.

    Muslim Americans, meanwhile, are invaders, and Robinson is not afraid to dabble in antisemitism: in his mind an international cabal of Jewish financiers make up a modern-day “four horsemen of the apocalypse”, who rule the banks in “every single country”.

    Lots of people have offensive and conspiracy-minded beliefs. But not all of them are running, as Robinson is, to be governor of North Carolina.

    And to people who don’t share Robinson’s views, the problem is that it looks like he could win – furthering the Republican party’s years-long lunge to what was previously rightwing fringe politics.

    “Mark Robinson would be the most extreme gubernatorial candidate but also governor that we’ve ever seen in our history,” said Anderson Clayton, the chair of the North Carolina Democratic party.

    The risk Robinson would pose if elected in November 2024 – polling is scarce at this stage, but experts believe the race between Robinson and Josh Stein, his expected Democratic opponent, is a toss-up – is real. Republicans control both the state house and senate, and the GOP expanded its lead in last year’s elections.

    Roy Cooper, the Democratic governor whose tenure is forced term limits to come to an end in 2023, has vetoed 52 bills from becoming law in his six years in office, the Assembly reported, including laws that would have rolled back gun control and reduced abortion access.

    With a Republican in the governor’s office – particularly a governor like Robinson – there would be no one to hold back a wave of rightwing bills…….


    www.theguardian.com

    Fears grow in North Carolina as ultra-extreme Republican eyes governor’s mansion

    If Mark Robinson wins gubernatorial race in 2024 there would be no one to hold back a wave of rightwing bills in the state
    www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
     
    Could have gone in a few threads
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    When two US senators – a Texas Republican and a Delaware Democrat – introduced a bill in June 2022 to expand grants for civics education, most observers saw it as something of an olive branch between the parties.

    But despite initial momentum, three now-familiar letters stopped the bill in its tracks: CRT.

    A mostly unknown conservative scholar writing in the National Review claimed the bill would “allow the Biden administration to push Critical Race Theory (CRT) on every public school in the country”, calling the Republican co-sponsors “naive” victims of a hidden leftist agenda.

    Critical race theory, which posits that racism permeates American institutions, has become rightwing shorthand for any classroom discussion of race.

    Senator John Cornyn, who proposed the legislation and is the former GOP majority whip, dismissed the allegations, writing on Twitter that “the false, hysterical claims are untrue and worthy of a Russian active measures campaign, not a serious discussion of our bill”.

    But truthful or not, the criticisms spread like wildfire.

    The National Review op-ed racked up thousands of interactions on social media, far-right Breitbart News ran an article whose headline pulled word-for-word from the editorial and Florida governor Ron DeSantis released a press release warning the $1bn federal civics bill would “award grants to indoctrinate students with ideologies like critical race theory.” High-profile commentators urged their followers to call lawmakers opposing what they described as “Trojan horse garbage” sponsored by “Rinos”, or Republicans in name only.

    The senators’ “Civics Secures Democracy Act” went no further.

    But how did this firestorm start?

    The story begins years prior and revolves around Stanley Kurtz, the author of the op-ed that lit the match and a little-noticed power player shaping the right’s recent offensives in the education culture wars.

    Though his writings are regularly shared by GOP heavy hitters including Fox News analysts, groups like Parents Defending Education and sitting US senators, Kurtz has flown mostly under the radar.

    A 69-year-old former university instructor and longtime conservative commentator, Kurtz has spearheaded a quiet but influential campaign to cleanse classrooms of what he calls “woke civics” – a term that extends to any hands-on civics lessons entailing student contact with elected officials………

    www.theguardian.com

    The conservative scholar who lit a match to the US right’s education wars

    Stanley Kurtz’s crusade against ‘woke civics’ in schools has shaped Republican bills across the US
    www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Guess here is a good spot for this

    2 questions, maybe @superchuck500 can help

    1. Why no fines/penalties etc on Lake herself?

    2. “False factual statements” seems to be code for bald faced lies, why wouldn’t they have to reimburse the defense for the legal costs of defending a case build on “false factual statements”?
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    The sanctions against counsel were likely based on pleading standards (similar to federal Rule 11) and principles of candor to the court. Broader penalties against the client in the form of costs and fees would be based on a different regime and the court likely found they weren't warranted under those standards. In most instances, patently false premise in a lawsuit isn't grounds for costs in and of itself. Lawsuits are often based on false premises but, as Lake's counsel said in the article, the client may not believe they are false and the court is generally not in the position to take punitive action on a false but genuine belief. In fact, that's actually part of the court's role - to give a person the opportunity to litigate those questions. Sometimes, specific statutes give the court a remedy of costs and fees, usually based on some kind of abuse of the system (e.g. anti-SLAPP laws). But there is generally no such remedy for generic lying in a complaint.

    But counsel still have an obligation with respect to how such beliefs are pled and represented to the court. Counsel can still be sanctioned where they fail to walk that line and here the court determined they had not met their obligations.
     
    SteveSBrickNJ said:
    www.yahoo.com

    Tucker Carlson floats moderating alternate GOP primary debate with Trump: report

    Tucker Carlson, the former Fox News prime-time host whose exit from the network sent shockwaves through political media last week, is reportedly floating the idea of hosting a Republican primary forum. Carlson’s unexpected departure from the company has left the media world wondering what he...
    www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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    Booooo!

    If they go ahead with it they should just call it The Liars Club.
     
    Fox News anchor and former White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany appeared to use racist tropes to mock demonstrators who took to the street in New York City in recent days to protest the killing of Jordan Neely, a Black homeless man who was choked to death by a white former Marine.

    On Friday, after showing a clip of activists chanting, “What do we want? Justice. When do we want it? Now” and other slogans to the beat of a drum, Ms McEnany cracked a smile and said, “Well, at least they have rhythm,” eliciting laughs from her cohosts.

    The Fox anchor also condemned people who have “already made up their minds” about the killing, in which 24-year-old Daniel J Pennywas filmed choking Neely for an estimated 15 minutes.


    Kat Abughazaleh, an analyst at watchdog group Media Matters for America, said Ms McEnany’s rhetoric “mocks Black people protesting the killing of Jordan Neely.”……..

    www.independent.co.uk

    Kayleigh McEnany mocks Jordan Neely protests on Fox: ‘At least they have rhythm’

    Host smiled after describing protests against killing of Black homeless man
    www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
     
    I missed this statement by Barr. Why couldn’t he tell the truth when he was actually AG?

     
    MT15 said:
    I missed this statement by Barr. Why couldn’t he tell the truth when he was actually AG?

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    Well, because the AG serves at the pleasure of the President to some degree and the President can make the life of the US AG really difficult. That said, if you paid attention to what he actually said when he was AG, it's not like he was Trump's biggest cheerleader either.

    Him not being a fan really isn't new.
     
    DaveXA said:
    Well, because the AG serves at the pleasure of the President to some degree and the President can make the life of the US AG really difficult. That said, if you paid attention to what he actually said when he was AG, it's not like he was Trump's biggest cheerleader either.

    Him not being a fan really isn't new.
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    If it weren't such a pathetic attempt at it, this is the highest level of pitiful attempts at CYA I think I've ever witnessed. What a vile piece of human garbage Barr is....basically knowingly supporting a pyschopath is my take.....
     
    DaveXA said:
    Well, because the AG serves at the pleasure of the President to some degree and the President can make the life of the US AG really difficult. That said, if you paid attention to what he actually said when he was AG, it's not like he was Trump's biggest cheerleader either.

    Him not being a fan really isn't new.
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    I would argue his first loyalty is to the country and the constitution. He lied and covered up for Trump for most of his tenure. He could have stopped Jan 6 if he had been truthful and forceful at the time.
     
    Ted, this is why nobody likes you, lol

     

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