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    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



     
    If you live in an area with a close midterm election race, there’s a good chance you can’t turn on your TV without seeing ads full of menacing music and lurid imagery telling you that if the Democrat wins, your community will descend into an anarchic nightmare of chaos and violence.


    But the idea that crime rates in America will depend on which party controls Congress is ridiculous on its face.

    The truth — which in a better world would play some role in campaign debates — is that almost nothing Congress does will have any more than the smallest effect on crime.


    As The Post reports, in the past month or so Republicans have made crime the primary focus of their campaigns.

    Apparently, inflation just didn’t provide the appropriate dose of fear and rage:


    During the first three weeks of September, the Republican candidates and allies aired about 53,000 commercials on crime, according to AdImpact, which tracks political spots on network TV. That’s up from the 29,000 crime ads they aired in all of August.

    Nearly 50 percent of all Republican online ads in battleground states have focused on policing and safety since the start of the month, according to data from Priorities USA, a group focused on electing Democrats.

    As Republicans know well — because they’ve run on this issue for decades — crime is both a real problem and a symbolic one. It can affect people’s lives in profound ways.

    But bringing it up can also activate fear, tribalistic distrust and oftentimes outright bigotry, emotions that override any rational assessment of problems and solutions.


    As ever, Republicans are blissfully unconstrained by facts. You can count on one hand the number of Democrats in Congress who would “defund the police,” but Republicans will simply accuse every Democrat of harboring that wish.

    So let’s be clear: While a couple of members do want to drastically reduce police budgets, any ad saying “Democrat X wants to defund the police!” is almost certainly lying to you…….

     
    OK, cool. Now, the next hurricane that smashes Lee County can be dealt with in its entirety by Lee County. I have had enough of these neo-confederates. Want help with outbreak of some disease? Go take a flying flock at a rolling doughnut.
    Yeah so Lee County can kiss my arse right about now. Survive and recover from this hurricane on your own. Bunch of damn freeloaders.
     
    Newest tactic (fact checked by Daniel Dale):

     
    A county commissioner in Florida appointed by Republican Governor Ron DeSantis has abruptly resigned following the circulation of a photograph allegedly showing him wearing a Ku Klux Klan robe and hood.

    Jeffery Moore was appointed to the Gadsden County Board of County Commissioners in July, serving as the only Republican on the five-member board in the state’s only predominantly Black county for less than two months before his resignation last week…..


     
    Interesting read

    GOP created a monster they couldn’t control. They played footsie with the Tea Party intentionally riling them up

    What was supposed to happen was they were to get riled, get angry, get frothing at the mouth outraged and then vote for the incumbent republicans, what was NOT supposed to happen was running their own candidates in primaries

    It happening again with the Q and MAGA crowds

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    Republicans and Democrats disdain each other at an equal rate: 95 percent of Democrats have an unfavorable view of the GOP, and 97 percent of Republicans feel the same way about the Democratic Party.


    But the parties don’t hate themselves equally. For seven years, a stable 8 in 10 Democrats have said they view their own party favorably. During that same time, the GOP has been on a roller coaster of happiness and discontent:

    Republicans view their party more favorably now — a consequence due partly to changes wrought by Donald Trump — but this data reveals a deep, underlying distrust between GOP voters and elected officials.

    As soon as the GOP loses a battle — such as the fight to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act or the 2020 presidential election — its voters flip from a “favorable” to “unfavorable” view of their own party.

    The GOP’s easily disaffected base has made Republican primaries increasingly volatile — and may decrease the party’s chances of retaking the Senate.


    GOP distrust spread quickly
The GOP’s run of restlessness — and Democrat’s era of calm — began more than 10 years ago.

    At that time, Barack Obama was president. Democrats had passed the Affordable Care Act, expanded regulation of the financial industry and spoke often of their supposedly “permanent” electoral majority.


    Democrats were happy with their party, and they didn’t rock the boat much — but Republicans felt differently:

    The GOP’s anti-establishment, populist wing blamed its own leaders for the disappointments of the Obama era. The critique from this part of the party was simple:

    The Republican ruling class compromised too much, lost elections too often and was insufficiently “conservative” (a term that meant different things to different parts of the base). So grass-roots Republicans started voting against their own leaders.

    The early victories shocked the GOP establishment. They successfully beat moderate Republicans such as Indiana Sen. Richard G. Lugarand Utah Sen. Robert F. Bennett and filled open seats with conservative candidates like Ted Cruz. Eventually, they lifted Trump to the White House.


    The result: self-distrust and resentment became features, rather than bugs, in GOP politics. Republicans from both the blue-collar and white-collar wings now feel free to move from a “favorable” to “unfavorable” view of their party…….

     
    Democrats are standing firmly on their values and beliefs to set glass-house Republicans straight. And, as the kids these days say, I’m here for it. Rather than cede the flag and love of country or shrink from the so-called culture wars, Democrats rhetorically are punching back forcefully and unapologetically.


    “Patriotism” is the word reclaimed by Wes Moore, the Democratic candidate for Maryland governor. He did it during a recent meeting with The Post's Editorial Board at which he plotted the future of the Democratic Party.


    “We have to take back this mantra of patriotism. I am absolutely exhausted by the idea of getting lectured by Republicans on patriotism,” said Moore, a veteran of the war in Afghanistan.

    “My definition of patriotism was leaving my family and putting on the uniform of this country and defending her with paratroopers with the 82nd Airborne in Afghanistan, and I’m literally running against somebody whose definition of patriotism was putting on a baseball cap and asking people to join him on January 6.”

    Moore’s opponent is Maryland House of Delegates member Daniel L. Cox. Not only did the far-right Republican charter buses to take him and supporters of President Donald Trump to Washington that awful day, but he also tweeted during the violent insurrection that “Pence is a traitor.”

    Nothing says patriotism like aligning with the crowd wanting to hang the vice president because he wouldn’t go along with an unconstitutional effort to overturn a free and fair election.

    Moore is not alone in pushing back against Republicans. Earlier this year, after being called a “groomer” by a Republican colleague, Michigan state Sen. Mallory McMorrow delivered a tour de force response that immediately went viral.

    “I want every child to feel seen, heard and supported,” McMorrow said, “not marginalized and targeted if they are not straight, white and Christian.”

    McMorrow — who is straight, white and Christian — also used her speech to snatch back the narratives of “Christian” and “family” values that have been used against Democrats for decades…….

     
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    This is sooooo true. The Republican Party leadership has failed this country in such a meaningful way that it might cost us our entire country.

     
    This is sooooo true. The Republican Party leadership has failed this country in such a meaningful way that it might cost us our entire country.


    Let's be clear. This is the dog biting the master's hand. McConnell had ample chances to kill that cancer. He chose not to do it. Obama offered a bipartisan rebuke of russian interference and he refused. He got his Supreme Court. Sessions got his attorney general title. And like all of Trumps enabler they are all yesterdays garbage when he is done with them.
     
    Despite preliminary polling predicting a closely fought race, the united opposition only won 57 out of 199 seats -- almost exclusively in the capital Budapest -- while the far-right Mi Hazánk party made it into parliament with six seats.

    Orban pulled off this landslide victory in circumstances that could have just as well helped Hungary’s united political opposition not only through packing institutions with his supporters to keep him in office – but by spinning information to dominate public discourse.
    A warning that a country doesn't need a violent coup to turn authoritarian. This is my fingers crossed that meloni isnt as clever and consolidate the Italian media. Here we have fox news and talk radio (sadly this may be a far more powerful medium as I know family members shape their views through it).
     

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