What happens to the Republican Party now? (3 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[nj73]

After all you've seen these past 28 years and you think there'll be consequences for the political class?!?

You poor, daffy, deluded sod.

I'm a Republican and a Conservative so I wish we could be forum buddies. I wish I could back you up on your posts. Yet I'm not inclined to do so based on what I've seen from you thus far. For example...you use the phrase "little Hitler" which I think is WAY out of line. It gives those who don't share your political viewpoint a chance to ignore everything else you say and focus on that. Then they'll talk about Trump as per usual.
The Democrats will sustain significant loses in Nov. of 2022 because of the economy.
There is no need for name calling. Especially the 2 word phrase you opted for.

A ball is round and water is wet. Haha, sorry i am not going to lie about that. And yes forced injections, nazi passports and Covid camps like in Australia is fascism.

 

[Sandman]

A ball is round and water is wet. Haha, sorry i am not going to lie about that. And yes forced injections, nazi passports and Covid camps like in Australia is fascism.

Hey, @SteveSBrickNJ,

This is the Republican Party now and who runs it. I left them a while ago. As my father told me growing up, you are judged by the company you keep. These are the people that will dictate what laws Republican lawmakers make, not you. They take you for granted. Until the reasonable Republicans are willing to say they won’t vote for someone just because there is an R after their name, these are the people that will be elected into office. Today they go after others rights. Tomorrow they come after your “sins.”

 

[DaveXA]

A ball is round and water is wet. Haha, sorry i am not going to lie about that. And yes forced injections, nazi passports and Covid camps like in Australia is fascism.

You'd have a point if what you say is true. Fortunately for the rest of us, it's not. I've yet to hear of a forced injection, there's no such thing as a nazi passport and kid's camp isn't Covid camp.

But hey, it might make a good book for the gullible. Easy money I guess.

 

[nj73]

You'd have a point if what you say is true. Fortunately for the rest of us, it's not. I've yet to hear of a forced injection, there's no such thing as a nazi passport and kid's camp isn't Covid camp.

But hey, it might make a good book for the gullible. Easy money I guess.

Jews had to wear "health" passports in nazi Germany. Vaccine passports is a softer way of making them mandatory. In some countries people are even sent to prison if they refuse. The camps are real.

It may not sound so horrible to some people but it will be. That is how fascism starts. By stealing human rights.

 

[DaveXA]

Hey, @SteveSBrickNJ,

This is the Republican Party now and who runs it. I left them a while ago. As my father told me growing up, you are judged by the company you keep. These are the people that will dictate what laws Republican lawmakers make, not you. They take you for granted. Until the reasonable Republicans are willing to say they won’t vote for someone just because there is an R after their name, these are the people that will be elected into office. Today they go after others rights. Tomorrow they come after your “sins.”

Yep, the problem with the Republican Party is they have no backbone and no scruples. They refuse to admit that Trumpism and the like has no place in the party and too scared to stand up to him because they are morally bankrupt. I suppose when you value money and power more than honesty and integrity, this is what the outcome is. Disgusting and why I say I'm a conservative but not a Republican.

 

[DaveXA]

Jews had to wear "health" passports in nazi Germany. Vaccine passports is a softer way of making them mandatory. In some countries people are even sent to prison if they refuse. The camps are real.

Lmao, no they're not. And the comparison of Jews who were slaughtered in nazi Germany with people who refuse to get a vaccine is a callous insult to those who were actually killed simply because they were Jewish. And we're not "some countries".

 

[Sandman]

It may not sound so horrible to some people but it will be. That is how fascism starts. By stealing human rights.

Irony.

 

[nj73]

Lmao, no they're not. And the comparison of Jews who were slaughtered in nazi Germany with people who refuse to get a vaccine is a callous insult to those who were actually killed simply because they were Jewish. And we're not "some countries".

That´s how fascism starts.

Heard your "arguments" from the establishment before. They mean nothing. Lies. Ask a real person who experienced the nazis and they see that the ball is round.

If the forced injections have serious side effects? Will that change your opinion?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Pardonnez-moi, but fork those voters.

It's an open secret that there are way more Democrats than Republicans. It's just that Dems go AWOL during midterms and in nearly all local elections.

The trick is to motivate them to get off their sodding arses and into the sodding voting booth.

Article talking about this
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A raft of polling shows enthusiasm among Democrats about the midterms substantially trails that of Republicans.

That is particularly troubling given that even in the best political climate, Democrats struggle to draw their voters to the polls in midterm elections (thereby boosting the percentage of older, White and conservative voters).

Democrats have plenty of reasons to be glum. The president’s ratings are crummy, inflation is high, and their dreams for voting rights reform and a transformative agenda crashed and burned in the Senate.

It does not help that President Biden talks incessantly about the proposals he did not achieve (e.g., subsidized child care).
It is not unusual for the party controlling the White House to lose seats in the midterms.

It is a political truism that it is easier to rile up voters upset about what the party in power is doing (or failing to do) than to defend what is invariably an incomplete, imperfect record.

That does not mean Democrats are helpless, but it does require the White House to rethink its approach.

To the dismay of many Democrats, Biden remains wedded to the futile goals of “bipartisanship” and “lowering the temperature.”

Frustrated Democrats make the point that there can be no real bipartisanship with a party that plays to QAnon conspiracy theorists, actively discourages covid vaccinations, systematically undermines access to voting, harbors unhinged racists and still perpetuates the “big lie” that the 2020 election was stolen.

There’s no lowering the temperature, they reason, when the opposition is burning down democratic institutions and fanning violence. This is not time for a “kumbaya” group hug.

If that argument does not persuade Biden to change his tone and message, then perhaps raw political calculation will persuade him: By remaining so studiously above the fray and refusing to identify Republicans as the threat to our democracy, he has sapped his own base of energy and allowed Republicans free rein to light up their voters.

So what can be done to narrow the enthusiasm gap?

Biden and the rest of the party must paint an accurate picture of what a Republican-led Congress would look like.

Chaos. Vicious partisanship. Gridlock.
Republicans, including Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.), have already indicated they’ll look for every opportunity to impeach Biden.

A group of Republicans actually filed impeachment articles last year. Does anyone think 2024 Republican presidential contenders won’t leap at the chance to push for impeachment proceedings?

Republicans have also made clear they have no qualms about shutting down the government, defaulting on the debt and holding up key nominees for critical national security positions.

Should another Supreme Court justice retire or die, no one can seriously believe the party that denied President Barack Obama even a hearing on his Supreme Court pick would allow consideration of Biden’s.

These are not invented concerns; they are things Republicans have already tried or promised to do…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/31/how-biden-can-solve-democratic-party-enthusiasm-problem/

 

[DaveXA]

That´s how fascism starts.

Heard your "arguments" from the establishment before. They mean nothing. Lies. Ask a real person who experienced the nazis and they see that the ball is round.

If the forced injections have serious side effects? Will that change your opinion?

Lol, have fun with your conspiracy theories.

 

[nj73]

Lol, have fun with your conspiracy theories.

They likely result in a weaker immune system.

 

[DaveXA]

They likely result in a weaker immune system.

I stand by what I said.

 

[nj73]

I stand by what I said.

Of course.

But i agree. It has never happened before in history that a medical drug had serious side effects and was withdrawn. It is just a conspiracy theory spread online by nazis and evil people who don´t like ice cream.

Do you believe in gravity?

 

[MT15]

Yep, the problem with the Republican Party is they have no backbone and no scruples. They refuse to admit that Trumpism and the like has no place in the party and too scared to stand up to him because they are morally bankrupt. I suppose when you value money and power more than honesty and integrity, this is what the outcome is. Disgusting and why I say I'm a conservative but not a Republican.

I totally agree with you and Sandman. I read an interesting article the other day that proposed the idea that gerrymandering in the House is leading to increasing radicalization of politicians. That when you have districts that are safely Republican or Democratic, the primary winner is often the one who can drive turnout and motivate the voters with fear and anger. And because of the safe nature of the district, in the general election there either isn’t an opponent (as happened for MTG) or the opponent is unelectable because the district is basically conceded by the opposition.

The theory is that if we can successfully get rid of gerrymandering, politics will find that the more reasonable candidates will regain their previous advantage.

 

[MT15]

Well, I wish I could feel any sympathy for the “normal” republicans who refused to speak out about the crazies and are trying to normalize this stuff when the crazy turns around and bites them in the butt. But I just can’t care.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Do you believe in gravity?

Nah. The earth is flat. I saw it on Hannity.

 

[RobF]

Of course.

But i agree. It has never happened before in history that a medical drug had serious side effects and was withdrawn. It is just a conspiracy theory spread online by nazis and evil people who don´t like ice cream.

Do you believe in gravity?

If you check the forum rules and guidelines, you'll see that this is a place where you're expected to back up assertions. If you just make assertions and offer nothing but cheap rhetoric to back them up, it's not going to be taken seriously.

So if, for example, your assertion is that specific medicines have particular side effects, you can't just wave your hands and go, "Well, some other medicines have had serious side effects!" That's meaningless. These medicines aren't those medicines.

It's like claiming you can play QB in the NFL in your forties, people saying they don't think so, and you then pointing at the fact that other people in their forties have. That's not how that works.

Basically, making that kind of claim is a put up or shut up kind of thing.

 

[SFIDC3]

Speaking strictly for myself, I didn't buy your response to me as sincere. I decided to let it go until you said something about it.

Same here, posts like below seem to be demanding a "cookie" or something....

Well I was wrong....and I was sincere in my apology.
I should have been focusing 100% on my job but I kept opening up a window to this thread and taking a quick look.
I saw myself quoted...I did a speed read and came away with a wrong conclusion.
I came back to take another look and then I saw others point out my error. I felt bad and came on yet again and explained myself and apologized.
I am a man of good character and if you actually knew me you would not doubt my sincerity.