What happens to the Republican Party now? (1 Viewer)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[MT15]

Attorney who backs election decertification enters attorney general race to investigate doctors who won't prescribe ivermectin

Karen Mueller said she is running in order to investigate six Wisconsin hospitals for decisions to not administer ivermectin to COVID-19 patients.

www.jsonline.com

Here is another indication of the rot at the heart of the R party. This lady wants to prosecute doctors for murder if they refused to prescribe ivermectin to Covid patients who subsequently died.

"I am running for Attorney General because of potential homicides in hospitals, because of vaccines — so-called vaccines," she said.”

Edit: I realize that this kook is just one of three R candidates in the primary. I am hopeful that she won’t win. I do think the R party needs to get a lot more forceful and vocal about condemning these kooks who take the R mantle and degrade it with their nonsense.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

You’re a little bit thin-skinned. I wasn’t saying you were ignorant - I was saying that the voters blaming Biden for a global inflation issue is ignorant and not fact based. I don’t think it was all that hard to get what I meant, but I do know I sometimes get more convoluted than I should.

OK.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

That's not what MT was saying at all. I would suggest not attacking other posters based on your own failure to comprehend a simple statement.

Yup. The problem was that I was( and still am) just taking peeks at this thread. Speed reading. I responded to what I THOUGHT I saw instead of what was actually there.
"My bad" Sorry.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

OK.

Sorry for my earlier error

 

[MT15]

Sorry for my earlier error

It’s all good.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The statement that the voter will blame the party in charge IS FACT based. Historically Fact Based.

I will say, I do kind of think there's something to this

There's a reason why the incumbent party usually loses big in the midterms**

"We voted you in, you were in charge, my life isn't perfect so now I'll vote you out"

**I believe the only 2 times in history this wasn't the case was 2002 (right after 9-11) and World War 2

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

I will say, I do kind of think there's something to this

There's a reason why the incumbent party usually loses big in the midterms**

"We voted you in, you were in charge, my life isn't perfect so now I'll vote you out"

**I believe the only 2 times in history this wasn't the case was 2002 (right after 9-11) and post World War 2

Correct.
Totally agree.

 

[The moose]

As everyone knows, I want nothing to do with any discussions about Trump. Yet regarding INFLATION....
People will "vote their pocketbook" in November.
The party in power almost always suffers losses in a mid term election when America is experiencing inflation.
It is inevitable.

Ok then what is the cause of the inflation? It is a byproduct of the pandemic. It is shortages and supply issues made up or not. It is labor shortages because people didn't go back and take up all the low paying jobs. The inflation is just gonna multiply the problems you could barely get by before as a short order cook you definitely can't now.

The cost of doing business has gone up and the cost of living has gone up and has not a darn thing to do with who is in office

Example the garbage bags I have been using to do my job for years have taken a jump up of almost fifty percent. The price jump at a rate closer to the inflation rate would make me think it is not gouging but almost 50 percent makes me know it is.

The fuel prices are bad but all the big oil companies are doing record profits. I would love if they could have a down year and not the best in the history of the industry as Americans suffer but then again that would be in American.

The inflation is not a presidential issue it is global.

 

[Optimus Prime]

But, they're too spineless to go for the throat like that.

Another example of how the Dems won't use the GOPs own tactics against for their own benefit. This is talking about Texas's abortion law

Of course, if they did the right would howl about it was the most unfair, unamerican thing they've ever seen in their lives
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........With the Court so far giving S.B. 8-style laws the green light, one might expect legislators of all stripes to use this new tool to accomplish their goals. After all, if Texas can ban abortion at six weeks with S.B. 8, then liberal states should be able to go after their pet issues — guns, corporate campaign donations, religious exemptions to anti-discrimination law, protests outside abortion clinics, and more.

This was exactly the fear that prompted a pro-gun rights organization to write a brief to the Supreme Court supporting the S.B. 8 challengers. “If Texas’s scheme for postponing or evading federal judicial review is successful here, it will undoubtedly serve as a model for deterring and suppressing the exercise of numerous constitutional rights,” the group wrote in the brief, noting how liberal states could use the mechanism to “insulate … future efforts to suppress the right to keep and bear arms.”

However, so far, the group’s fears have been unfounded, as liberal states have shown almost no interest in taking advantage of the Supreme Court’s unwillingness to block the law. There’s a bill in California that would allow private lawsuits over sales of assault weapons, but it’s gone nowhere in the state legislature.

Other than that, there’s been nothing. Liberal states have looked at this new approach to getting their way and said, no thanks.

Red states, on the other hand, have plowed forward with enthusiasm. The law Idaho Governor Brad Little signed last week is the first copycat S.B. 8 provision. This law, scheduled to take effect in late April, is narrower than S.B. 8 in that it only allows the patient, the person who impregnated her, and certain family members to sue the abortion provider and anyone who helps.

However, it imposes even greater liability, $20,000 per lawsuit. As a result, an abortion provider who violates the law could be on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars if the patient has a large family and they all sue individually.

Many other states are waiting in the wings to follow suit. Similar bills in Tennessee and Oklahoma are making their way through the legislature, and several more states have introduced bills that do the same. Missouri has a unique bill that, using S.B. 8’s enforcement mechanism, would ban travel to get an abortion out of state.

These Republican-controlled states have been emboldened by the Supreme Court giving the go-ahead to this civil bounty mechanism. They have learned the lesson that this new enforcement system is as yet unstoppable in the courts, and they are racing to take advantage.

Liberal states, meanwhile, have seen the effectiveness of S.B. 8 and responded with near silence.

In other words, in the war of constitutional hardball, one side keeps developing new, more effective weapons, while the other side unilaterally disarms itself..............

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[dtc]

I understand the viewpoint of the 2 posters that made their points just prior to this one.
I'd like to let them know that MONTHS before Putin made his move, prices at the US supermarkets and additionally for non food items....those US prices were already climbing up. Inflation was well under way prior to Putin. Inflation was definitely a topic prior to Putin sending troops into Ukraine.
The American voter CAN discern what is Russia-Ukraine related and what is not.

The US voter is a giant sucking sound with the intellect of a flea and the attention span of a gnat.

Inflation is at least partly due to the huge amount of money we've spent and printed over the past 40 years. It was baked into the cake with the trillions given away during the Covid crisis by Trump and the rest of them. I think it was worth it to avoid a total collapse, but the piper will be paid.

Toss in the worldwide demand fueled by growing economies, cheap interest rates and free money and you've got a recipe for inflation. That cake was baked prior to Biden coming to office. Biden's giveaways aren't going to slow it down, but the non-stop ignorance and BS from the right about interrupted oil flows and the rest have made it impossible to take anything seriously from the mouth of a Republican.

The post you quoted above is case in point? Nuremburg trials? Really? The "little Hitler" nonsense wasn't even cringe worthy compared to the Nuremburg remark, but here you are - a self-avowed conservative - cajoling this person by considering what he's said as even remotely worthy of anything more than scorn and ridicule.

WE are doomed.

 

[dtc]

As everyone knows, I want nothing to do with any discussions about Trump. Yet regarding INFLATION....
People will "vote their pocketbook" in November.
The party in power almost always suffers losses in a mid term election when America is experiencing inflation.
It is inevitable.

As I said above, the American people are stupid.l

Of course, voting your pocket book and basing it on inflation as we emerge from a world-wide pandemic into a potential world war is nowhere in the average American's calculus.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

It’s all good.

I like @MT15 the best. When I made an error because I was merely quick peeking at the thread while at work...certain people gave me what I deserved and then a bunch of others jumped on with thumbs up. Yes sir...All were in agreement that I was wrong....and I was!
Yet when I myself saw those posts and realized my error, I immediately gave an explanation and apologized.
LOL....yet only @MT15 gave a thumbs up to my sincere apology.
All the previously condemning folks who loved to issue their thumbs up this morning...all of those folks ignored my apology.
They were Quick(and correct) to condemn....yet currently slow(or never) to forgive.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I like @MT15 the best. When I made an error because I was merely quick peeking at the thread while at work...certain people gave me what I deserved and then a bunch of others jumped on with thumbs up. Yes sir...All were in agreement that I was wrong....and I was!
Yet when I myself saw those posts and realized my error, I immediately gave an explanation and apologized.
LOL....yet only @MT15 gave a thumbs up to my sincere apology.
All the previously condemning folks who loved to issue their thumbs up this morning...all of those folks ignored my apology.
Quick to condemn....slow(or never) to forgive.

Speaking strictly for myself, I didn't buy your response to me as sincere. I decided to let it go until you said something about it.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Speaking strictly for myself, I didn't buy your response to me as sincere. I decided to let it go until you said something about it.

Well I was wrong....and I was sincere in my apology.
I should have been focusing 100% on my job but I kept opening up a window to this thread and taking a quick look.
I saw myself quoted...I did a speed read and came away with a wrong conclusion.
I came back to take another look and then I saw others point out my error. I felt bad and came on yet again and explained myself and apologized.
I am a man of good character and if you actually knew me you would not doubt my sincerity.

 

[Optimus Prime]

This guy
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Donald Trump blocked plans by his chief White House photographer to publish a book of pictures of his time in power – then published a book of such images himself, the New York Times reported.

One former White House photographer told the Times that by using Shealah Craighead’s images for his own profit – with books selling for as much as $230, Trump is reported to have made $20m – the former president had dealt her “a slap in the face”.

Craighead was only the second woman to be White House chief photographer, after Sharon Farmer, who worked under Bill Clinton……

Trump swooped in to profit from White House photographer’s book deal – report

Ex-president blocked Shealah Craighead plan and then made up to $20m from publishing images in own memoir, New York Times says

www.theguardian.com

 

[DaveXA]

This guy
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Donald Trump blocked plans by his chief White House photographer to publish a book of pictures of his time in power – then published a book of such images himself, the New York Times reported.

One former White House photographer told the Times that by using Shealah Craighead’s images for his own profit – with books selling for as much as $230, Trump is reported to have made $20m – the former president had dealt her “a slap in the face”.

Craighead was only the second woman to be White House chief photographer, after Sharon Farmer, who worked under Bill Clinton……

Trump swooped in to profit from White House photographer’s book deal – report

Ex-president blocked Shealah Craighead plan and then made up to $20m from publishing images in own memoir, New York Times says

www.theguardian.com

Smh, sounds like something Trump would do.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Won’t someone think of the children?
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Republicans have kids on the brain.

Over the course of the last year, conservative activists and Republican state lawmakers have been whipping up a set of interrelated moral panics over the supposed indoctrination of children in our schools and child abuse – from the notion that elementary school teachers are raising up junior divisions of the Black Panthers with critical race theory to the insistence that trans people, who today comprise less than half a percent of high-school athletes in the United States, might soon bring an end to girls’ sports.

The word “grooming” is now in wide circulation on the right ⁠ – a dogwhistle that implies basic education on LGBT identity and sex is priming kids for predation, perhaps at the hands of the Satanic sex traffickers at the heart of QAnon’s conspiracy theories.

All of this spilled into last week’s confirmation hearings for US supreme court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson, which Senate Republicans did their best to derail by mischaracterizing her sentencing on cases on child sexual abuse images.

As has been widely reported, those sentences had been entirely in keeping with sentences delivered by most federal judges in comparable cases, including sentences delivered by Trump judicial appointees with broad Republican support.

But that mattered not a whit to Republicans on the Hill. “Every judge who does what you’re doing is making it easier for the children to be exploited,” Lindsey Graham told Jackson in a heated exchange.

Ted Cruz accused Jackson of “a record of activism and advocacy as it concerns sexual predators that stems back decades”.

And Josh Hawley, best-known for defending Donald Trump’s allegations of election fraud and cheering on the rioters at the Capitol on January 6, led the pack with a fusillade of similar attacks on Jackson at the hearings and on social media.

“I’ve noticed an alarming pattern when it comes to Judge Jackson’s treatment of sex offenders, especially those preying on children,” he tweetedahead of the hearings.

“Judge Jackson has a pattern of letting child porn offenders off the hook for their appalling crimes, both as a judge and as a policymaker.”

Again, the Republican attacks on Jackson’s record, like the rest of their fearmongering about kids these days, have been ludicrous.

It is true, though, that one of our parties has proven itself remarkably willing to defend sexual predators in recent years……

The Republican party is obsessed with children – in the creepiest of ways | Osita Nwanevu

For all their posturing about defending children from abuse, their record tells another story

www.theguardian.com

 

[Sandman]

I like @MT15 the best. When I made an error because I was merely quick peeking at the thread while at work...certain people gave me what I deserved and then a bunch of others jumped on with thumbs up. Yes sir...All were in agreement that I was wrong....and I was!
Yet when I myself saw those posts and realized my error, I immediately gave an explanation and apologized.
LOL....yet only @MT15 gave a thumbs up to my sincere apology.
All the previously condemning folks who loved to issue their thumbs up this morning...all of those folks ignored my apology.
They were Quick(and correct) to condemn....yet currently slow(or never) to forgive.

“Acknowledge my apology!” doesn’t help your argument of its sincerity. Some people probably just saw it and said, “cool,” accepted it, and moved on. Either that or maybe they haven’t been back to the thread, didn’t see it, etc. You assume they are jerks.

Lastly, no one is compelled to accept an apology. I have apologized to people earnestly who have looked me in the face and said **** you. That is their prerogative. They don’t have to accept my apology. It doesn’t make them bad if they don’t. If I hold it against them, then my apology is not sincere.