What happens to the Democratic Party now? (1 Viewer)

[Heathen]

I’m sure much of us are having 2016 flashbacks this morning with a sick feeling to our stomachs..

2 of the last 3 elections Democrats have lost to a far right demagogue

Harris didn’t get close in many states to even Biden’s performance. We could very well lose the Presidency, Senate AND House depending on results the next few days…..

What went wrong?
What could’ve been done better?
What can we change in the future to ensure voters are motivated like they were when Obama was elected?

Democrats have no choice but to admit there’s a huge problem with some aspect of their platform— and to do a deep introspection of what’s going wrong..

 

[Optimus Prime]

Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a progressive who has cemented her popularity with young voters, is reportedly considering running for president or the Senatein 2028.

Ocasio-Cortez, 35, made a splash when she was elected to represent New York’s 14th congressional district, located in the Bronx and Queens, in 2019. Now, the Democrat is reportedly considering taking the next step in her political career as the party searches for its next generation of leaders, Axios reported Friday.……

AOC is plotting a run for president in 2028: report

She’s embarked on a nationwide tour with Vermont’s Independent Senator Bernie Sanders, held town halls outside of her district in upstate New York, and raised $15 million

www.independent.co.uk

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a progressive who has cemented her popularity with young voters, is reportedly considering running for president or the Senatein 2028.

Ocasio-Cortez, 35, made a splash when she was elected to represent New York’s 14th congressional district, located in the Bronx and Queens, in 2019. Now, the Democrat is reportedly considering taking the next step in her political career as the party searches for its next generation of leaders, Axios reported Friday.……

AOC is plotting a run for president in 2028: report

She’s embarked on a nationwide tour with Vermont’s Independent Senator Bernie Sanders, held town halls outside of her district in upstate New York, and raised $15 million

www.independent.co.uk

Just having her be part of the campaign conversation would be positive. Even more positive, if she were to win.

 

[SystemShock]

You are the only one injecting mental capacity into this.

Begs the question: why can Asian, Latino, etc. learn from female teachers that don't look like them, and not black boys and men?

Some people are visual learners. Some aren't. Some learn better in group environments. Some learn better in one-on-one settings. That doesn't mean one group is smarter or more capable of learning information than the other. It just means they thrive in differing environments or under different teaching methods.

If I can learn from anyone and you can't, well...

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Begs the question: why can Asian, Latino, etc. learn from female teachers that don't look like them, and not black boys and men?


If I can learn from anyone and you can't, well...

You're putting a ton of energy into trying to convince everyone that educational programs aimed at helping black students are bad things.

 

[Dragon]

Begs the question: why can Asian, Latino, etc. learn from female teachers that don't look like them, and not black boys and men?


If I can learn from anyone and you can't, well...

You overlook the very real bias that young African American boys and men are often confronted with. A young Black man driving a car has a significantly higher statistical chance of being pulled over by police, and many face bias throughout their upbringing. This isn’t speculation—there is extensive research to back it up, along with the tragic reality that every year multiple young African Americans are killed under circumstances tied to that same bias.

Consider something as simple as knocking on the wrong door: a young African American boy is far more likely to be killed than a white boy in the same situation. When I attended school in Tennessee, African American students were rarely encouraged to take AP classes and were often overlooked in the classroom. That was many years ago, but I still hear similar stories today.


This is why representation matters. Having an African American teacher as a role model shows young men that they too can succeed—and that society believes in their potential.

 

[SystemShock]

You overlook the very real bias that young African American boys and men are often confronted with. A young Black man driving a car has a significantly higher statistical chance of being pulled over by police, and many face bias throughout their upbringing. This isn’t speculation—there is extensive research to back it up, along with the tragic reality that every year multiple young African Americans are killed under circumstances tied to that same bias.

What does that have to do with, say, learning math? How's having a black male teacher going to fix that? And what about the girls and women? Why only black boys and men?

Consider something as simple as knocking on the wrong door: a young African American boy is far more likely to be killed than a white boy in the same situation. When I attended school in Tennessee, African American students were rarely encouraged to take AP classes and were often overlooked in the classroom. That was many years ago, but I still hear similar stories today.

I hear stories too.
When I attended school in Louisiana mid 1980's, my sophomore year, the president of the student body was African American, and he had a 4.0 GPA... he must've been special or something... then there was my friend Acho, who was from Uganda, who got a scholarship through the armed forces, 4.0 GPA... the Malaysian Muslim girls (talk about someone who had not teachers like them) who barely spoke English, but understood it well, because 4.0 GPAs.

This is why representation matters.

It matters of you let it matter. If you make it an excuse for failure.

Having an African American teacher as a role model shows young men that they too can succeed—and that society believes in their potential.

You are kidding... I guess you are not aware of the image attached to teachers in the U.S.

 

[SystemShock]

You're putting a ton of energy into trying to convince everyone that educational programs aimed at helping black students are bad things.

I am not putting a ton of energy into anything. Typing words on a screen doesn't consume that many calories. And we are not talking about "educational programs" either, unless that's a euphemism for segregation. Oh, wait, no, it is only segregation if white people say it; if non-whites say it, it's an "educational program"

And as I said, I am not here to convince everyone; you can't convince the indoctrinated.

 

[Taurus]

Ever hung a nightcrawler over an electric fence?

That's the Democratic Party. A spineless, writhing thing flailing aimlessly in response to stimuli it can't comprehend.

 

[zztop]

Democrat Andy Beshear has twice won election as governor of Kentucky — thriving in a state that has voted for Donald Trump three times.

Now Beshear is considering a run for president. He discussed what he believes Democrats need to change in an NPR all-platform interview, which included a video and special podcast episode, as well as reports on the Up First podcast and Morning Edition.

 

[Sendai]

Democrat Andy Beshear has twice won election as governor of Kentucky — thriving in a state that has voted for Donald Trump three times.

Now Beshear is considering a run for president. He discussed what he believes Democrats need to change in an NPR all-platform interview, which included a video and special podcast episode, as well as reports on the Up First podcast and Morning Edition.

First class dude from a first class family. Rational and practical.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a progressive who has cemented her popularity with young voters, is reportedly considering running for president or the Senatein 2028.

Ocasio-Cortez, 35, made a splash when she was elected to represent New York’s 14th congressional district, located in the Bronx and Queens, in 2019. Now, the Democrat is reportedly considering taking the next step in her political career as the party searches for its next generation of leaders, Axios reported Friday.……

AOC is plotting a run for president in 2028: report

She’s embarked on a nationwide tour with Vermont’s Independent Senator Bernie Sanders, held town halls outside of her district in upstate New York, and raised $15 million

www.independent.co.uk

I really wish she wouldn't. She needs to secure New York from Schumer. She has a far better chance of winner that compared to a national general election.

 

[Booker]

I really wish she wouldn't. She needs to secure New York from Schumer. She has a far better chance of winner that compared to a national general election.

The Republican Party has been trying to make her the face of the Democratic Party since she first came on the scene. It would be their collective wet dream for her to be the nominee in 2028.

 

[SystemShock]

The Republican Party has been trying to make her the face of the Democratic Party since she first came on the scene. It would be their collective wet dream for her to be the nominee in 2028.

The AMLO gambit

 

[Optimus Prime]

Democrats are going all out to reach young male voters, after the GOP ate into its traditional advantage with young people during the 2024 election.

Strategies have ranged from the party working with influencers to cover the DNC to surprisingly criticisms of leading Democratic candidates and officeholders

"Young men are looking for someone they can have a beer with - someone relatable," Democratic strategist Joe Jacobson toldReuters. "Democrats have good policies, but if your messenger has the charisma of watching paint dry, it doesn't matter."

After the 2024 election, when the young male vote for Trump rose to 46 percent, up seven points from the previous cycle, many in the Democratic Party went searching for answers………

Dem advisor admits party as boring as ‘watching paint dry’ amid youth outreach push

The Democratic Party’s soul-searching on how to reach young men comes after Republicans made gains during 2024 election

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Optimus Prime]

Guess this can go here

Interesting article
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An overwhelming majority of American voters believe it’s important to elect more women to political office, but younger voters are the least open to voting for a woman as president, according to a new poll.

Despite broad support for more women in office across all demographics, Americans under 50 are the least likely to elect a woman president themselves, according to survey results from American University.

Nearly one in five voters said they or someone with whom they are close would not vote for a woman as president — including one-quarter of women under 50 and nearly 20 percent of men under 50. Only 13 percent of men and women over 50 said they would support a woman candidate.

The survey of 801 registered voters through the university’s Women and Politics Institute was performed online from September 3-6 and has a 3.5-point margin of error.

Despite wide majority support for more women in politics, the survey reveals paradoxical thinking among voters, who trust women on critical issues and want to see more of them in office while “persistent bias” and narrow expectations emerge when it comes to envisioning them as president.

Expectations for a “first female president” are narrowly defined, with the picture of a married Democratic mother under 65 with political experience as a model candidate, the survey found.

Women candidates also face a “double bind” where survey respondents want women to be both “tough” and “likable” in standards that are not typically applied to their male counterparts, the poll found.

Republican men are more likely to believe women achieve leadership roles due to alleged hiring quotas or through manipulation, while women are more likely to see structural barriers and an “old boys’ club” as well as negative media scrutiny and self-doubt as key deterrents that prevent more women in politics.

The survey — arriving nearly one year after former Donald Trump defeated former Vice President Kamala Harris in the 2024 presidential race — also found that respondents are divided on whether her candidacy has made it easier or harder for a woman to become president.

Democratic, Republican and independent women were nearly evenly divided on the question, though 45 percent of Republicans overall — including 47 percent of Republicans over age 65 — believed her loss has made it less likely the country will elect a female president.

Nearly 60 percent of Democratic voters, however, said her campaign will make it more likely that a woman president will be elected in the future.……..

Nearly 20% of younger voters won’t vote for a woman as president, new poll finds

Most voters want to elect more women, but sexist double standards emerge when picturing them as president

www.independent.co.uk

 

[faceman]

I really wish she wouldn't. She needs to secure New York from Schumer. She has a far better chance of winner that compared to a national general election.

Agreed man,and we have to be real here. She has no chance in a national election.

 

[MT15]

So far, for the most part, democrats have been willing to watch the GOP burn our country down. I don’t think that’s a great strategy, but I will admit they have limited options. They’re fighting now for the ACA tax exemptions, but most people haven’t seen what will happen if the GOP doesn’t reverse course. Some folks in Alaska have received their notifications of premium increase, though, and their premiums went from around $800/mo to $4k/mo. They need to be shouting about that fact, but I just heard about it on an obscure TikTok video. Allowing the government to shut down over it is one thing they can do.

Here is a historian with a fascinating discussion about how to fight a movement that obeys no laws, no rules, no conventions.

Fascinating talk.

 

[bird]

Agreed man,and we have to be real here. She has no chance in a national election.

I wouldn’t say she has no chance. I would agree she doesn’t have much of a chance in a national election. Imo, I think she has moderated her image over the last couple years. She is clearly intelligent and does have the ability to frame debate which the party as a whole needs. I do think her next step should be the senate. I also think she would be a more viable candidate nationally after a successful senate term. I would vote for her in 2032 assuming I am still around.

Btw, moderating her image (for Mr. Independent out there) does not mean altering policy positions. It means PR because perception is reality even though it really isn’t because this country is so conditioned to see only surface. Plus the electorate has the attention span of a gnat with ADHD.