What happens to the Democratic Party now? (1 Viewer)

[Heathen]

I’m sure much of us are having 2016 flashbacks this morning with a sick feeling to our stomachs..

2 of the last 3 elections Democrats have lost to a far right demagogue

Harris didn’t get close in many states to even Biden’s performance. We could very well lose the Presidency, Senate AND House depending on results the next few days…..

What went wrong?
What could’ve been done better?
What can we change in the future to ensure voters are motivated like they were when Obama was elected?

Democrats have no choice but to admit there’s a huge problem with some aspect of their platform— and to do a deep introspection of what’s going wrong..

 

[bird]

Immigration was the key factor for me. Yes, the economy is poor. goods have tripled in price since Biden. But, the benefits given to illegal immigrants was the point of no return for me. The lack of money that goes to our citizens, and to watch medical benefits, housing benefits, etc go to illegall immigrants is sickening. There is an 1990's video of trump on Oprah. He's saying the exact same things he says now. Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president. Now, he's a nazi. Laughable. It's refreshing to see a lot of the country see through that type of talk about Trump.

Explainer: Immigrants and the Use of Public Benefits in the United States

Other than refugees, noncitizens in the United States face significant restrictions on access to federally funded public benefits, including programs such as Medicaid, food stamps, and cash assistance programs. This is particularly the case for unauthorized immigrants, who except in very limited...

www.migrationpolicy.org

Regarding benefits provide actual examples of your claims including links.

Regarding goods, your claim that prices tripled is a flat out lie.

Regarding loving Trump? That is another lie. He was a piece of excrement then just as he is now. He defrauded contractors, used illegal migrant workers on building projects and mobbed himself up to get concrete when other developers could not get it. He bankrupted casinos which are virtually licenses to print money.

His language as noted in another thread is that of an authoritarian populist that most closely resembles verbiage used by Hitler in stoking up the crowds. That you don’t like his language being called out is irrelevant.

He was, is and always will be, to borrow your words, laughable. He is also ignorant, arrogant and dangerous. When the impact of tariffs on food and goods prices come crashing down on your head, don’t come looking for sympathy. You won’t find any.

 

[MT15]

Immigration was the key factor for me. Yes, the economy is poor. goods have tripled in price since Biden. But, the benefits given to illegal immigrants was the point of no return for me. The lack of money that goes to our citizens, and to watch medical benefits, housing benefits, etc go to illegall immigrants is sickening. There is an 1990's video of trump on Oprah. He's saying the exact same things he says now. Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president. Now, he's a nazi. Laughable. It's refreshing to see a lot of the country see through that type of talk about Trump.

Almost everything you say here is false. Almost every single thing.

 

[SFIDC3]

What benefits would those be?

The made up ones that Fox, Newsmax and all the other RWNJ networks trumpet about....

 

[Heathen]

Immigration was the key factor for me. Yes, the economy is poor. goods have tripled in price since Biden. But, the benefits given to illegal immigrants was the point of no return for me. The lack of money that goes to our citizens, and to watch medical benefits, housing benefits, etc go to illegall immigrants is sickening. There is an 1990's video of trump on Oprah. He's saying the exact same things he says now. Everyone loved Trump before he ran for president. Now, he's a nazi. Laughable. It's refreshing to see a lot of the country see through that type of talk about Trump.

In terms of people getting away with certain things and getting money in unfair ways in comparison to you / people like you, you’re arguing at a molehill when there’s a mountain behind you.

It’s easy to get mad at immigrants, but they’re objectively, statistically not the problem to you and your everyday life.

To the contrary, making life harder for immigrants will just make your own life harder as Trump deporting people en masse will wreck the economy.

 

[MT15]

People with six figure incomes upset at penniless, nearly homeless people. Yeah, that tracks.

 

[J-DONK]

Almost everything you say here is false. Almost every single thing.

It's really something that anyone who wasn't a hardcore conserative bought into illegals causing inflation. What is even the theory on that? Mexicans love eggs?

 

[bird]

People with six figure incomes upset at penniless, nearly homeless people. Yeah, that tracks.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/905592577452019732/1309009699353530388/bafkreifmzdrbky5gguiqwl2zfeqrj26ly4ccs2m5b2xn5bsnaipj7ctjhajpeg.png?ex=6740ae88&is=673f5d08&hm=940e9993890bafb337a88a3797a93b16bbf5ae3dffb60891f8496930a7d7f535&

 

[Optimus Prime]

Think that ship has sailed

Even if people really regret not voting for her by the time 28 rolls around I’d be surprised if she’s the nominee again
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A survey conducted shortly after the 2024 presidential election indicates most Democratic voters would support Vice President Kamala Harris in 2028 as the party’s nominee if she were to run for president again.

It’s only been two weeks since Democrats lost the presidency to Republicans but some are looking to the future, hopeful that a potential new, or familiar, pool of candidates will reinvigorate voters.

Though names like California Governor Gavin Newsom, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiroand Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieghave emerged, Harris’s campaign seems to have made a lasting impact.

Approximately 41 percent of likely Democratic voters said they would vote for Harris to represent the Democratic Party in the 2028 presidential election, a survey from Echelon Insights and Puck News found.

The results are purely preliminary and given Harris’s recency, her policies and stance on issues are fresh in voters’ minds……..

Poll show Harris is still a favorite to run in 2028 primaries

Other Democrats like Gavin Newsom, Josh Shapiro and Gretchen Whitmer have been named as potential candidates

www.independent.co.uk

 

[MT15]

At least we know there will be an open primary. So may the best candidate win.