Trump proposals and what actually gets accomplished (2 Viewers)

[MT15]

I don’t think this fits into any current thread - it’s not an appointment or anything. Maybe a thread to keep track of his proposals and whether they are implemented?

 

[RobF]

Why is that an elitist attitude?

Again the whole article is direct quotes from people I assume are aware of their own financial situations who know they are up shirt creek if the man they voted for and elected follows through on what he campaigned on

Honestly, I'm not sure it's worth responding to someone who either read the sentence, "Now, low-income Americans who voted for Trump say they are counting on him to keep their benefits intact even while his Cabinet picks and Republican lawmakers call on him to reduce federal spending," and thought "clearly that's about their comprehension of their own finances!" or didn't read it at all.

 

[Booker]

NEW CASTLE, Pennsylvania — Lori Mosura goes to the grocery store on a bicycle because she can’t afford to fix her Ford F-150 truck.

The single mother and her 17-year-old son live in an apartment that is so small she sleeps in the dining room. They receive $1,200 each month in food stamps and Social Security benefits but still come up short. Mosura said she often must decide whether to buy milk or toilet paper.

It was all that penny-pinching that drove the part-time tax consultant to abandon the Democratic Party this fall and vote for Donald Trump.

“He is more attuned to the needs of everyone instead of just the rich,” Mosura, 55, said on a recent afternoon. “I think he knows it’s the poor people that got him elected, so I think Trump is going to do more to help us.”

Trump carried the Pennsylvania city of New Castle by about 400 votes, becoming the first Republican presidential candidate to win here in nearly 70 years. More than 1 in 4 residents live in poverty, and the median income in this former steel and railroad hub ranks as one of the lowest in Pennsylvania.

New Castle’s poorest residents weren’t alone in putting their faith in Trump. Network exit polls suggest he erased the advantage Democrats had with low-income voters across the country.

Fifty percent of voters from families with an income of less than $50,000 a year cast their ballots for Trump, according to the data, compared with 48 percent for Vice President Kamala Harris. Four years ago, President Joe Biden carried those voters by 11 percentage points; Hillary Clinton won them by 12 points in 2016 and former president Barack Obama by 22 points in 2012.

Now, low-income Americans who voted for Trump say they are counting on him to keep their benefits intact even while his Cabinet picks and Republican lawmakers call on him to reduce federal spending.

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy — whom Trump has chosen to lead a new nongovernmental advisory panel, the “Department of Government Efficiency” — have said they want to trim $2 trillion from the government’s annual budget, a cut that some experts say could be accomplished only by slashing entitlement programs.

Trump’s pick for White House budget director was a key architect of Project 2025, a plan drawn up by conservatives to guide his second term that calls for steep cuts to programs such as food stamps. And GOP leaders in Congress and Trump advisers are considering significant changes to Medicaid, food stamps and other federal aid...............

After backing Trump, low-income voters hope he doesn’t slash their benefits​

My attitude is fork em. If people voted for Trump, I have no sympathy for them if they end up suffering from his administration. You wanted this, you got it.

And for forks sake, how stupid do people have to be to think that the billionaires who will be determining policy have interests in common with people who have to work for a living? fork em all.

 

[Texan1211]

My attitude is fork em. If people voted for Trump, I have no sympathy for them if they end up suffering from his administration. You wanted this, you got it.

Isn't that always the attitude if your person loses, whether one is Republican or Democrat?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Gee, the fact that it needs explanation is astounding!
Why would you or anyone else know the finances of people they don't even know better than the people living it?

This was addressed in the part of the post you removed from the quote. Are you ignorant or just incapable of being honest?

 

[Texan1211]

Well the entire point of the article is “Vunerable Trump voters fearful Trump will do exactly what he said he would do”

Maybe the point of the article was to highlight that some Democrats, disappointed with the economy, decided that Republicans in charge would be better for them than when Democrats are in.

 

[Texan1211]

This was addressed in the part of the post you removed from the quote. Are you ignorant or just incapable of being honest?

Why do you ignore the fact that enough people were disillusioned with Democrat President Biden and his VP Harris to vote for Trump despite of what he was campaigning on?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Why do you ignore the fact that enough people were disillusioned with Democrat President Biden and his VP Harris to vote for Trump despite of what he was campaigning on?

I fully acknowledge this, just as I did when it happened in 2016. You still ignored what Optimus said and then criticized him for not addressing the point he actually addressed. That's dishonest. Why do you do that?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Donald Trump has promised to deregulate the energy sector, boost fossil fuels, dismantle environmental rules and otherwise attack climate progress.

However, experts and advocates say that lawsuits that aim to hold the fossil fuel sector responsible for deceiving the public about the climate crisis still “have a clear path forward”.

“The overwhelming evidence of the industry’s lies and ongoing deception does not change with administrations,” said Richard Wiles, president of the non-profit Center for Climate Integrity, which tracks and supports the litigation.

There are more than 30 accountability lawsuits active around the US brought by states and municipalities accusing fossil fuel interests of covering up the climate risks of their products or seeking damages for impacts. “Climate deception lawsuits against big oil have a clear path forward no matter who is in the White House.”

On the campaign trail, Trump pledged to “stop the wave of frivolous litigation from environmental extremists”.

But the administration’s ability to block the suits will be limited, Wiles said.

Since the federal government is neither plaintiff nor defendant in any of the suits, Trump’s election will not directly affect their outcome. And since each case was filed in state court, the president cannot appoint judges who will oversee them.

However, if any of the cases are sent to the federal courts – something oil companies have long pushed for but have not achieved – Trump’s rightwing appointees could rule in favor of fossil fuel companies.

“The most important impact that Trump will have on the climate accountability litigation is the justices he has appointed to the supreme court,” said Michael Gerrard, the faculty director of the Sabin Center for Climate Change Law at Columbia University.

In his first term, Trump appointed three justices to the high court, including two with ties to the fossil fuel industry.……

Trump aims to crush legal curbs on his climate rollback – but it may not be easy

The president-elect said he will ‘stop the wave of frivolous litigation from environmental extremists’ but the ability to block suits will be limited, experts say

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

Republican state lawmakers and conservative leaders around the United States see Donald Trump’s re-election as a mandate that will help them enact rightwing policies in Republican-run states across the US.

The policies include steep tax cuts, environmental legislation, religion in schools and legislation concerning transgender medical care and education, among other hot-button social issues.

Republicans will have trifecta control – meaning both legislative bodies and the governorship in a state – in 23 states next year, while Democrats will only control the three entities in 15 states. The other states have divided government.


“Arkansans went very favorably for President Trump, and I think Arkansans feel very similarly about President Trump as they do” Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders, said Ryan Rose, a Republican state representative in Arkansas, where his party has the trifecta.

“That will only empower our state to continue forward with more conservative policies, putting more money back in the pockets of hard-working Arkansans with tax cuts and supporting Arkansasconservative family values.”………

Republican-run states see opportunity to push extreme policies under Trump

Emboldened red states could advocate for rightwing reforms from steep tax cuts to slashes to education

www.theguardian.com

 

[bird]

Gee, the fact that it needs explanation is astounding!
Why would you or anyone else know the finances of people they don't even know better than the people living it?

Look in the mirror, elitist.

 

[MT15]

I fully acknowledge this, just as I did when it happened in 2016. You still ignored what Optimus said and then criticized him for not addressing the point he actually addressed. That's dishonest. Why do you do that?

And, crickets on this. Chicken shirt behavior if you ask me.

 

[superchuck500]

The plan now is apparently "one big beautiful bill" for all of Trump's agenda - and passed through the budget reconciliation process.

This is going, of course, to be supported by the "conservatives" in Congress who have long railed against massive pieces of budget legislation that take days to read much less comprehend. In fact, we have seen quite a bit of that sentiment here.

But of course if Trump says jump, they ask how high. Given the track record of many of these bozos, I'm skeptical.

Newly reelected House Speaker Mike Johnson on Sunday highlighted his and President-elect Donald Trump’s plans to pass one “big, beautiful” budget reconciliation package through Congress and said he aims to have it on Trump’s desk by the end of April.

“Everything’s got to move in the right sequence. And along the way, I think we’re going to keep those trains moving in the right direction and on time,” Johnson said on “Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo.” “And if that happens, we will get it out of the House in early April, maybe as soon as April 3, and then move it over to the Senate.”

In the worst-case scenario, he said, Trump would have a bill ready to sign by Memorial Day.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/05/johnson-budget-reconciliation-trump-april-00196504

 

[superchuck500]

A quick primer on budget reconciliation - this is the Trump strategy to avoid the filibuster and yes, it does that, but there are limits on what kinds of measures can be passed in reconciliation . . . they have to be principally about spending and cannot usher in wholesale policy changes where the budget effects are merely ancillary.

How Does Budget Reconciliation Work?

What are the rules of reconciliation? What is allowed in, and what is not?

www.americanprogress.org

 

[MT15]

A quick primer on budget reconciliation - this is the Trump strategy to avoid the filibuster and yes, it does that, but there are limits on what kinds of measures can be passed in reconciliation . . . they have to be principally about spending and cannot usher in wholesale policy changes where the budget effects are merely ancillary.

How Does Budget Reconciliation Work?

What are the rules of reconciliation? What is allowed in, and what is not?

www.americanprogress.org

I seem to remember the Dems used this to get some of Biden’s proposals through. Doesn’t it depend on the Parliamentarian’s rulings on what can be included? It seems like there was discussion that the Dems should just remove the Parliamentarian and replace them with someone who would go along with whatever they wanted. Of course they didn’t do that, but I see MAGA absolutely doing that.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Under President Joe Biden, enrollment in Medicaid hit a record high and the uninsured rate reached a record low.

Donald Trump’s return to the White House — along with a GOP-controlled Senate and House of Representatives — is expected to change that.

Republicans in Washington say they plan to use funding cuts and regulatory changes to dramatically shrink Medicaid, the nearly $900-billion-a-year government health insurance program that, along with the related Children’s Health Insurance Program, serves about 79 million.) mostly low-income or disabled Americans.

The proposals include rolling back the Affordable Care Act’s expansion of Medicaid, which over the last 11 years added about 20 million low-income adults to its rolls. Trump has said he wants to drastically cut government spending, which may be necessary for Republicans to extend 2017 tax cuts that expire at the end of this year.

Trump made little mention of Medicaid during the 2024 campaign. The first Trump administration approved work requirements in several states, though only Arkansas implemented theirs before a federal judge said it violated the law. The first Trump administration also sought to block grant funding to states.

House Budget Committee Chair Jodey Arrington (R-Texas) told KFF Health News that Medicaid and other federal entitlement programs need major changes to help cut the federal debt. “Without them, we will watch this country sadly enter into fiscal collapse.”.............

Revealed: The GOP's 'draconian' strategy to cut Medicaid as Trump returns

Under President Joe Biden, enrollment in Medicaid hit a record high and the uninsured rate reached a record low.Donald Trump’s return to the White House — along with a GOP-controlled Senate and House of Representatives — is expected to change that. Republicans in Washington say they plan to use...

www.alternet.org

 

[Dragon]

Under President Joe Biden, enrollment in Medicaid hit a record high and the uninsured rate reached a record low.

Donald Trump’s return to the White House — along with a GOP-controlled Senate and House of Representatives — is expected to change that.

Republicans in Washington say they plan to use funding cuts and regulatory changes to dramatically shrink Medicaid, the nearly $900-billion-a-year government health insurance program that, along with the related Children’s Health Insurance Program, serves about 79 million.) mostly low-income or disabled Americans.

The proposals include rolling back the Affordable Care Act’s expansion of Medicaid, which over the last 11 years added about 20 million low-income adults to its rolls. Trump has said he wants to drastically cut government spending, which may be necessary for Republicans to extend 2017 tax cuts that expire at the end of this year.

Trump made little mention of Medicaid during the 2024 campaign. The first Trump administration approved work requirements in several states, though only Arkansas implemented theirs before a federal judge said it violated the law. The first Trump administration also sought to block grant funding to states.

House Budget Committee Chair Jodey Arrington (R-Texas) told KFF Health News that Medicaid and other federal entitlement programs need major changes to help cut the federal debt. “Without them, we will watch this country sadly enter into fiscal collapse.”.............

Revealed: The GOP's 'draconian' strategy to cut Medicaid as Trump returns

Under President Joe Biden, enrollment in Medicaid hit a record high and the uninsured rate reached a record low.Donald Trump’s return to the White House — along with a GOP-controlled Senate and House of Representatives — is expected to change that. Republicans in Washington say they plan to use...

www.alternet.org

The irony is that the tax cuts have added $3 trillion to the deficit, while people have been paying into Medicaid for years. Now, he wants to limit medical services for the lower-middle class and the poor to extend tax cuts for the top 1%.

And the MAGA crowd likely applauds this, even though many of them will end up paying the price for these decisions

 

[horse2H5]

The irony is that the tax cuts have added $3 trillion to the deficit, while people have been paying into Medicaid for years. Now, he wants to limit medical services for the lower-middle class and the poor to extend tax cuts for the top 1%.

And the MAGA crowd likely applauds this, even though many of them will end up paying the price for these decisions

What medical services are being proposed to be limited?

 

[Dragon]

What medical services are being proposed to be limited?

Read the article in the post I replied to.