Trump proposals and what actually gets accomplished (1 Viewer)

[MT15]

I don’t think this fits into any current thread - it’s not an appointment or anything. Maybe a thread to keep track of his proposals and whether they are implemented?

 

[Optimus Prime]

and the media said they learned their lesson after 2016

 

[Texan1211]

And yes I am disputing the fact that they crossed the southern border illegally as you implied

The fact that I specifically mentioned the app should have given you a real clue to the fact that IS acknowledgement some came legally, hence me saying the app needs work. You ASSUMED instead of reading what was written, hence your mistaken ASSumption.

 

[Dragon]

and the media said they learned their lesson after 2016

The media is owned by billionaires who want tax cuts and limitations on unions (Bezos)

 

[SystemShock]

Really bad guess.

Doesn't seem so. "Ban the TSA" sounds as bad as "Defund the Police". Actually, sounds worse; at least "Defund the Police" still implied a police force.

 

[SystemShock]

and the media said they learned their lesson after 2016

They did. They learned what creates traffic and ad revenue.

 

[Texan1211]

Doesn't seem so. "Ban the TSA" sounds as bad as "Defund the Police". Actually, sounds worse; at least "Defund the Police" still implied a police force.

Damn good thing I never said anything remotely close to ban the TSA.
I did say, however that improvements could be made regarding that no-fly list.
How can anyone disagree with that?

 

[SystemShock]

What are you talking about? Do you think Republicans want terrorist attacks here?

Wow. Same post quoted twice! I'm making friends!

It does seem Republicans like a good catastrophe. Here they are trying to ban the TSA, don't like to talk about guns or mental health or anything else other than "thoughs and prayers" when kids die in hails of bullets in their schools, seem to have a real issue with vaccines and other live saving science, want to defund FEMA...

And to clarify: I know "terrorist" has a certain connotation, the kufiyyeh-wearing Arab with a bomb vest strapped around his chest shouting "Allahu Akbar!" as he runs into a federal building to detonate himself, but I am referring to anyone who wants to instill terror, whether for political/ideological reasons, vengeance, or just plain nut cases.

 

[SystemShock]

Damn good thing I never said anything remotely close to ban the TSA.

Who's talking about you?

 

[Texan1211]

Wow. Same post quoted twice! I'm making friends!

It does seem Republicans like a good catastrophe. Here they are trying to ban the TSA, don't like to talk about guns or mental health or anything else other than "thoughs and prayers" when kids die in hails of bullets in their schools, seem to have a real issue with vaccines and other live saving science, want to defund FEMA...

And to clarify: I know "terrorist" has certain connotation, the kufiyyeh-wearing Arab with a bomb vest strapped around his chest shouting "Allahu Akbar!" has he runs into a federal building to detonate himself, but I am referring to anyone who wants to instill terror, whether for political/ideological reasons, vengeance, or just plain nut cases.

Lots of words posted but an abject failure to address the question: Do you think Republicans want terrorist attacks here?
A simple yes or no is all that is necessary.

 

[Texan1211]

Who's talking about you?

Who said it was about me?

 

[SystemShock]

Lots of words posted but an abject failure to address the question:

Oh... is an abject failure really, really bad? Or just bad?

Do you think Republicans want terrorist attacks here?
A simple yes or no is all that is necessary.

Of course they do. Otherwise they wouldn't want to ban the TSA, or fight tooth and nail against sensible gun regulations that responsible gun owners like myself support.

 

[SystemShock]

Who said it was about me?

You did. I mentioned that Republicans want to ban the TSA, and you replied "good thing I didn't say it".

 

[Texan1211]

Of course they do.

I'm sorry, but that is the stupidest thing I have seen this year.
No point in continuing with someone who actually believes that.

 

[Texan1211]

You did. I mentioned that Republicans want to ban the TSA, and you replied "good thing I didn't say it"

learn what words mean. That doesn't mean it is about me. It means I am a Republican and don't believe that crap. I didn't want you to assume I did.

 

[TampaJoe]

Oh... is an abject failure really, really bad? Or just bad?


Of course they do. Otherwise they wouldn't want to ban the TSA, or fight tooth and nail against sensible gun regulations that responsible gun owners like myself support.

I’m also a responsible gun owner. We can pass all kinds of laws regarding guns but if the local DA refuses to enforce such laws, what does it accomplish? I’m all for sensible gun laws. But if we aren’t going to enforce the laws we have and we aren’t properly supporting law enforcement and first responders, we are going to see pushback on those who would make legally obtaining firearms more difficult. Until people feel safe in their homes and on the streets where they live and work, tightening gun control laws will be a difficult lift.

 

[SystemShock]

I'm sorry, but that is the stupidest thing I have seen this year.
No point in continuing with someone who actually believes that.

... but then:

learn what words mean.

Please, don't be so online tough on me. You done hurt my feelings. I'm but a delicate flower.

That doesn't mean it is about me. It means I am a Republican and don't believe that crap. I didn't want you to assume I did.

You may not believe that crap, but you condone that crap with your vote.

Common thing of late, though... conservatives who say they don't believe in this or that, but rush to the ballot boxes to cast votes for this or that. Long are the days when we Republicans threw the stone and didn't hide the hand.

 

[Dragon]

I’m also a responsible gun owner. We can pass all kinds of laws regarding guns but if the local DA refuses to enforce such laws, what does it accomplish? I’m all for sensible gun laws. But if we aren’t going to enforce the laws we have and we aren’t properly supporting law enforcement and first responders, we are going to see pushback on those who would make legally obtaining firearms more difficult. Until people feel safe in their homes and on the streets where they live and work, tightening gun control laws will be a difficult lift.

This is a classic chicken-and-egg situation. People don’t feel safe because there are so many guns on the streets, and there are so many guns on the streets because people don’t feel safe. It’s a vicious cycle where fear fuels the proliferation of firearms, and their widespread presence only deepens the sense of insecurity. Breaking this cycle requires addressing both the root causes of fear and the oversaturation of guns in our communities.

 

[SystemShock]

I’m also a responsible gun owner. We can pass all kinds of laws regarding guns but if the local DA refuses to enforce such laws, what does it accomplish? I’m all for sensible gun laws. But if we aren’t going to enforce the laws we have and we aren’t properly supporting law enforcement and first responders, we are going to see pushback on those who would make legally obtaining firearms more difficult. Until people feel safe in their homes and on the streets where they live and work, tightening gun control laws will be a difficult lift.

I may be wrong, but it seems that lately, the laws regarding guns are more deregulation than regulation: open carry for everyone, forgoing conceal permit requirements, must allow guns everywhere (except Republican rallies, of course). And those DAs who refused to enforce such laws, I haven't heard of any, but are they of the conservative persuasion or the progressive persuasion?

Tightening gun control laws are a difficult lift only because the gun lobby and the GOP don't want them, opting for "thoughts and prayers".