Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (1 Viewer)

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    I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

    Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

    Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.


     
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    Republican Congressman Mike Collins has called for the release of those arrested in connection with the January 6 attack after Fox News' Tucker Carlson aired new footage from the riots at the U.S. Capitol in 2021.

    Collins, who represents Georgia's 10th congressional district, said in a tweet on Monday: "I've seen enough. Release all J6 political prisoners now."

    The tweet was sent as Carlson played clips of the Capitol attack—handed over to him by House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy—during his primetime show.

    Approximately 518 people have pleaded guilty to a variety of criminal charges in connection to the riot, according to the Department of Justice, with 235 receiving a custodial sentence. A number of Republicans, such as Georgia's Marjorie Taylor Greene and Florida's Matt Gaetz, have described those arrested as "political prisoners," with the clips featured on Carlson's show further increasing conservative outrage.

    Carlson said the footage he aired on Monday disputes the "lies" told by Democrats and those sitting on the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 attack. Carlson alleged that the Democrats exaggerated the violence which occurred that day.

    During a Tucker Carlson Tonight broadcast on Monday, he said: "A small percentage of them were hooligans, they committed vandalism ... but the overwhelming majority weren't. They were peaceful, they were ordinary and meek. These were not insurrectionists, they were sightseers."

    Carlson, who has previously spread conspiracy theories about the January 6 attack, has been accused of misrepresenting the events which occurred during the riot.

    On Monday night, Carlson played footage that showed "QAnon Shaman" Jacob Chensley being allowed to walk through the building's corridors without being stopped by police.

    Carlson showed clips of Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who died a day after the riots, looking "healthy and vigorous" after he was attacked by Trump supporters to suggest his death was "very obviously" not the result of violence he suffered at the entrance to the Capitol...............

    Collins' tweet parrots a similar call for those arrested in connection to the Capitol riot to be released made by former president Donald Trump in the wake of Carlson airing the security footage.

    "Congratulations to Tucker Carlson on one of the biggest 'scoops' as a reporter in U.S. history," Trump posted on his social network, Truth Social.

    "The New Surveillance Footage of the January 6th Events sheds an entirely different light on what actually happened. The Unselect Committee was a giant SCAM, and has now unequivocally been stamped as CRIMINAL FABRICATORS OF THIS MOST IMPORTANT DAY. Pelosi & McConnell failed on security. The Police story is sad and difficult to watch. 'Trump' and most others are totally innocent, LET THEM GO FREE, NOW!"...............

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    Tucker Carlson on Monday aired U.S. Capitol security footage from the Jan. 6 insurrection that House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) gave to him last month, at one point showing tape of Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) fleeing from rioters.

    Yet the clip, which the House Jan. 6 Committee first revealed to the public last July, is “a lie,” according to the Fox News host, because Hawley wasn’t the only member of Congress seen running toward a safe location.

    Carlson, in a voiceover, complained that “Democrats laughed with derision” when the committee showed the clip.

    “But in fact, the surveillance footage shows that famous clip was a sham, edited deceptively by the January 6 Committee. The clip was propaganda, not evidence,” Carlson insisted. “The actual videotape shows that Hawley was one of many lawmakers being ushered out of the building by Capitol Hill police officers. And, in fact, Hawley was at the back of the pack. The ‘coward’ tape was a lie — one of many from the Jan. 6 Committee.”

    It’s unclear how exactly other lawmakers fleeing ahead of Hawley makes the video of him doing so a “lie.” Nevertheless, former President Donald Trump agreed with Carlson’s sentiment, demanding the prosecutions of committee members in a Truth Social post...........

     
    Tiresome propaganda. It wasn’t a lie, they laughed at him for running precisely because he showed such bravado when arriving at the Capitol and raising his tiny fist just a couple of hours earlier.

    They never said where he was in the “pack” at all. Carlson is such a tool.
     
    MT15 said:
    You are so totally embarrassing, SFL. What you have posted is an OPINION piece where the guy said Maddow “seemed” to be rooting for the dossier to be true. Actually, no, you didn’t even do that. You posted a Fox News piece ABOUT an opinion piece from WaPo. So, I don’t trust anything Fox News says about their main competitor, and the original Op-Ed is behind a paywall now.

    So this post is useless. Totally useless.

    And, once again, parts of the dossier ARE true. Good lord, everything isn’t binary. It’s not all false or all true with no other options.
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    The only parts of Dossier that was true(one of the sources was long time Clinton Operative Charles Dolan) were things that were publicly reported before the dossier was created.
     
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    SamAndreas said:
    You keep talking like the Steele Dossier is something which has been discredited.

    Nonsense.

    I think as a series of memos on different topics that it had a pretty good track record in that about 80% of it held up during the years long investigations. Those investigations which didn't exonerate Trump.

    I guess the 20% that didn't hold up excused all of the 80% that did hold up, as so goes standard Conservative logic, i.e. toss out the baby with the bath water.
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    I bet you can't cite even one thing in the dossier that proved to be true that wasn't publicly reported before the dossiers existence.
     
    Yes, I think the only way to save this country is to believe everything Tucker Carlson says over a clearly doctored video ......says no one in their right mind.....I can't believe you would even post this garbage but you are exactly what the R party has turned into....a total and utter tragic joke.....
     
    I can watch every single one of those vidoes and still have the same opinion. EVERY SINGLE ONE of them are insurrectionists. If any of the officers were in volved, they should be charged as well. But none of that changes the narrative of what they tried to accompish that day..
     
    Bolding at the bottom mine. What was the process to give the footage to Tucker? What ever you did, do it again
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    US Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger on Tuesday ripped into Fox News host Tucker Carlson over his commentary about footage from the January 6, 2021, insurrection that he aired Monday night, saying the host “cherry-picked” from the footage to present “offensive” and “misleading” conclusions about the attack.

    “Last night an opinion program aired commentary that was filled with offensive and misleading conclusions about the January 6 attack,” Manger wrote in an internal department memo obtained by CNN, adding that Carlson’s show didn’t reach out to the police department “to provide accurate context.”

    “The program conveniently cherry-picked from the calmer moments of our 41,000 hours of video. The commentary fails to provide context about the chaos and violence that happened before or during these less tense moments,” Manger said.

    House Speaker Kevin McCarthy granted Carlson access to more than 40,000 hours of the Capitol security footage from January 6. Carlson, who used the footage in an attempt to downplay the violence and defend the pro-Trump mob, claimed he checked with Capitol Police before airing the footage.

    The Capitol Police has continuously warned that release of all security footage from the Capitol could pose a potential security risk for the building. CNN has reached out to Capitol Police for comment.

    CNN and other news organizations have also requested access to the security footage. McCarthy’s office said it is still working out the process to make the footage “more widely available” but did not comment further.............

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    I was going to post something to effect of the above.

    I find it freaking laughable that in 40,000 hours of tape, that was the best they could do.

    He had 40,000 hours of tape and two weeks to edit it.

    That whole video is like a few clips

    Between this and the fact we now know he and Hannity both thought it was an insurrection and the election wasn’t stolen, how can anyone not just roll your eyes at this whole thing.

    The call to release all 40,000 unedited hours will only get louder now
     
    SFL: what a shock that you fell for Carlson’s BS. Lol. So predictable. Even though you should know by now that Carlson has no issue with lying to his audience, you still lap up the garbage.

    Tucker is playing you for a fool.
     
    SaintForLife said:
    The videos speak for themselves and its completely different from the media/ January 6th committee narratives. What a surprise.
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    Yes, completely different than the narrative we all saw with our own eyes live in real time

    Notice you were conspicuously absent from this thread on the 6th and the following days
     
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    Optimus Prime said:
    Yes, completely different than the narrative of we all saw with our own eyes live in real time

    Notice you were conspicuously absent from this thread on the 6th and the following days
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    Not everyone can be parroting Democrat party propaganda...I mean the Washington Post on a daily basis like you do.
     
    MT15 said:
    SFL: what a shock that you fell for Carlson’s BS. Lol. So predictable. Even though you should know by now that Carlson has no issue with lying to his audience, you still lap up the garbage.

    Tucker is playing you for a fool.
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    The videos even without Tuckers commentary speak for themselves. Why were the Democrats so scared of it being released? Some laughable BS about Tucker revealing sensitive security facts like exits or safe rooms. They couldn't even come up with a plausible excuse. It reminds me of when the FBI, Schiff, other Democrats and the media claimed that releasing the Nunes memo would endanger national security which was a crock of %#^#. That Nunes memo exposed Schiff and the Democrats as liars.



    Why does our Democracy depend on more videos not being released? McCarthy said he gave Tucker the exclusive and then it will be released to the other news organizations. I have a feeling if the NYT or the Washington Post got the exclusive then there wouldn't be any of the sky is falling rhetoric.
     
    I'd like to piggy back on the requests from Trump and these (R) members of Congress.

    Here is a photo of police kneeling in solidarity with protesters in Portland. It shows that it was not a riot, and I demand that everyone arrested for the protest in Portland be immediately released.

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