Trump Indictment ( includes NY AG and Fed documents case ) (1 Viewer)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Former President D. Trump has been indicted by a New York Grand Jury. There will be much to talk about on this topic because this is just the first step in a lengthy process.
Possibly it is worthy of its own thread here rather than posting about Trump's indictment in already existing threads?
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This 3/31/23 story might get the ball rolling....
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Manhattan’s DA wanted a Friday Trump arrest. Trump’s team said no.

Secret Service needed more time to prepare, according to the ex-president’s legal team.

www.yahoo.com

 

[SamAndreas]

Will this civil suit open Trump up for more crimes due to discovery? Does Trump believe he has lost 1/2 billion due to the hush money crime? Some may argue it made him money, since everyone knew he was a cad, but many may envy him for getting with porn stars.

It might cause Trump to be charged for witness tampering.

None of the media outfits who've published articles about this case have mentioned that possibility yet. I don't know why. Maybe they haven't had time to think it through.

I didn't think of it for a couple of hours after I read the lawsuit. Then all of a sudden the thought came to me, "this is blatant witness tampering."

 

[Saintamaniac]

It might cause Trump to be charged for witness tampering.

None of the media outfits who've published articles about this case have mentioned that possibility yet. I don't know why. Maybe they haven't had time to think it through.

I didn't think of it for a couple of hours after I read the lawsuit. Then all of a sudden the thought came to me, "this is blatant witness tampering."

Would love to see you expound on this take. I am clueless as to how this lawsuit could possibly open trump up to witness tampering. What am I not seeing?

Also, I know he has bottom of the barrel counsel right now but what kind of lawyer would file a lawsuit that could / would open their client up to charges of witness tampering? Wouldn't they know the consequences of their action and how it could negatively impact their client?

 

[superchuck500]

Would love to see you expound on this take. I am clueless as to how this lawsuit could possibly open trump up to witness tampering. What am I not seeing?

Also, I know he has bottom of the barrel counsel right now but what kind of lawyer would file a lawsuit that could / would open their client up to charges of witness tampering? Wouldn't they know the consequences of their action and how it could negatively impact their client?

I think he's referring to the fact that Cohen is a state witness in the criminal prosecution and this $500 million civil suit alleges that Cohen is barred from the confidentiality agreement and attorney-client privilege from speaking about the Daniels payment. I suppose Sam's idea is that the suit is aimed at pressuring Cohen not to testify.

But I think the suit focuses mainly on Cohen's public statements, and as a matter of law and policy, neither a confidentiality agreement or attorney-client privilege apply to prohibit Cohen from testifying in a criminal prosecution. So I don't think it can impact the testimony - only what he may say in public.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Former President Donald Trump is getting his last shots in via social media before his deposition in a business fraud lawsuit brought by the attorney general of New York.

In a post to Truth Social, the former president attacked Attorney General Letitia James — denouncing the case she brought against him as “ridiculous.”

“I will be heading downtown to meet with a Racist who leaked that I would be there at 9:30 A.M.,” Trump wrote. “The leak makes it much more difficult for the Police and Secret Service to do their job. This civil case is ridiculous, just like all of the other Election Interference cases being brought against me. If I had a fair judge, this case would have never happened. MAGA!”

The lawsuit against Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump, and the Trump Organization alleges that the former president inflated his net worth to secure more favorable loan terms. The attorney general’s lawsuit alleges more than 200 instances of fraud in total............

‘Heading Downtown to Meet With a Racist’: Trump Fires Off Early-Morning Panic Post Ahead of Deposition With NY AG Letitia James

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[SamAndreas]

Would love to see you expound on this take. I am clueless as to how this lawsuit could possibly open trump up to witness tampering. What am I not seeing?

Also, I know he has bottom of the barrel counsel right now but what kind of lawyer would file a lawsuit that could / would open their client up to charges of witness tampering? Wouldn't they know the consequences of their action and how it could negatively impact their client?

Because it's blatant witness tampering.

 

[Optimus Prime]

NEW YORK (WABC) -- Experts say Former President Donald Trump's racially fueled criticism of the three Black prosecutors leading investigations against him could lead to a heightened sense of fear among BIPOC prosecutors.

Former President Donald Trump continues to criticize Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg after pleading not guilty to 34 felony counts last Tuesday.

Trump's attacks don't stop there, from social media posts threatening death and destruction to his rallies.

He's taken shots at a Georgia prosecutor investigating possible criminal behavior by Trump in the 2020 presidential election surrounding his efforts to overturn the results.

The former president has also condemned New York Attorney General Letitia James for looking into his business dealings, calling each of these three Black prosecutors racist.

"The danger of this rhetoric is that it encourages bad actors to do certain things," said Melba Pearson, a former prosecutor. "These are lives that are at stake."

Pearson says Trump is explicitly targeting Black Americans who are just doing their jobs in an industry where just 5% of elected prosecutors nationwide are Black.

According to the Reflective Democracy Campaign, in New York, there are only three.

Pearson says Trump's comments have created a heightened sense of fear.

"I've seen it amongst those considering running for office because it's not just the calculus of is this something I want to do," Pearson said. "The next level is, what about security?"

Lately, Trump has targeted the Hispanic American judge presiding over his criminal case...........

Trump's racist rhetoric causes backlash for Black prosecutors: Expert

Expert says Trump is explicitly targeting Black Americans who are just doing their jobs in an industry where just 5% of elected prosecutors nationwide are Black.

abc7ny.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

NEW YORK (AP) — New York prosecutors have asked a judge to bar Donald Trump from using evidence from his criminal case to attack witnesses, citing what they say is the former president’s history of making “harassing, embarrassing, and threatening statements” about people he’s tangled with in legal disputes.

The Manhattan district attorney’s office filed court papers Monday asking Judge Juan Manuel Merchan for a protective order that would put strict guardrails around Trump’s access to and use of evidence turned over by prosecutors prior to trial. That kind of evidence sharing, called discovery, is routine in criminal cases, and is intended to help ensure a fair trial.

Prosecutors want to block Trump from posting evidence to social media or providing it to third parties. They also want to restrict how he views certain sensitive material, asking that he do so only in the presence of his lawyers — and that he not be able to copy, photograph or transcribe those records.


Trump “has a longstanding and perhaps singular history of attacking witnesses, investigators, prosecutors, trial jurors, grand jurors, judges, and others involved in legal proceedings against him,” Assistant District Attorney Catherine McCaw wrote……..

Trump might use trial docs to scorch witnesses, DA says

New York prosecutors are seeking to bar Donald Trump from using evidence from his criminal case to attack witnesses, citing what they say is the former president's history of making “harassing, embarrassing, and threatening statements” about people he’s tangled with in legal disputes. The...

apnews.com

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Donald Trump has been indicted and will appear in a Florida Federal Court this Tuesday.
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[SteveSBrickNJ]

Donald Trump has been indicted and will appear in Florida Federal Court this Tuesday.

 

[DaveXA]

Good, but, I ain't holding my breath until he's actually convicted and the appeals process is played out.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Since most of you do not watch Fox News, I want to pass along to you that on the screen it displays:
"Trump Indictment Comes The Same Day A Whole Committee Gets Set To View a Biden Document"

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House Oversight Committee members to view subpoenaed Biden document - Washington Examiner

House Oversight Committee members will view a subpoenaed document relating to the committee's investigation into President Joe Biden and his family on Thursday. Committee members will begin reviewing the FBI's FD-1023 form on the alleged Biden criminal scheme between 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. Thursday...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

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We are going to see the country's divide ....the country's voters become even more entrenched in their positions.
MANY non Democrats view the DOJ's aggressive legal approach to Donald Trump as being in stark contrast to their obvious efforts to shield President Biden against the accusation of money laundering....alleged Ukraine related stuff....Hunter Biden wrong doings...etc., etc.
Conservative people who are actually hoping for the political fall of Trump and pinning their hopes on Pence or Haley or DeSantis or Scott , etc. etc....Those GOP leaning anti Trumpers ARE likely to rally around Trump in THIS instance.
CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC ....all of these outlets work hard to present the news in a way that favors the Biden Administration and presents the GOP folks in an unfavorable light.
The double standard in the media coverage will now be seen by half the country as additionally spilling into the Legal System as well.
I'm not here to convince you.
That is NOT possible of course.
I'm here to present the other side to you...because although I'll watch left leaning outlets and educate myself on "the other side's point of view"...most of you will not watch Fox NEWS...not the talking heads...forget them!....but the NEWS program on Fox....just to learn the other side.
You'll just throw out snide remarks and such.
So even though the educated and articulate guests on Fox right now would do a far better job of informing you of the Red States voters' viewpoints...you'll probably only get this weak inadequate attempt from me.
At least I tried.

 

[MT15]

Since most of you do not watch Fox News, I want to pass along to you that on the screen it displays:
"Trump Indictment Comes The Same Day A Whole Committee Gets Set To View a Biden Document"

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House Oversight Committee members to view subpoenaed Biden document - Washington Examiner

House Oversight Committee members will view a subpoenaed document relating to the committee's investigation into President Joe Biden and his family on Thursday. Committee members will begin reviewing the FBI's FD-1023 form on the alleged Biden criminal scheme between 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. Thursday...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Because of course they have to conflate two entirely different stories to distract from the Trump indictment. You really don’t need to show us Fox unless they do something out of character for them, lol.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Since most of you do not watch Fox News, I want to pass along to you that on the screen it displays:
"Trump Indictment Comes The Same Day A Whole Committee Gets Set To View a Biden Document"

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House Oversight Committee members to view subpoenaed Biden document - Washington Examiner

House Oversight Committee members will view a subpoenaed document relating to the committee's investigation into President Joe Biden and his family on Thursday. Committee members will begin reviewing the FBI's FD-1023 form on the alleged Biden criminal scheme between 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. Thursday...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

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We are going to see the country's divide ....the country's voters become even more entrenched in their positions.
MANY non Democrats view the DOJ's aggressive legal approach to Donald Trump as being in stark contrast to their obvious efforts to shield President Biden against the accusation of money laundering....alleged Ukraine related stuff....Hunter Biden wrong doings...etc., etc.
Conservative people who are actually hoping for the political fall of Trump and pinning their hopes on Pence or Haley or DeSantis or Scott , etc. etc....Those GOP leaning anti Trumpers ARE likely to rally around Trump in THIS instance.
CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC ....all of these outlets work hard to present the news in a way that favors the Biden Administration and presents the GOP folks in an unfavorable light.
The double standard in the media coverage will now be seen by half the country as additionally spilling into the Legal System as well.
I'm not here to convince you.
That is NOT possible of course.
I'm here to present the other side to you...because although I'll watch left leaning outlets and educate myself on "the other side's point of view"...most of you will not watch Fox NEWS...not the talking heads...forget them!....but the NEWS program on Fox....just to learn the other side.
You'll just throw out snide remarks and such.
So even though the educated and articulate guests on Fox right now would do a far better job of informing you of the Red States voters' viewpoints...you'll probably only get this weak inadequate attempt from me.
At least I tried.

Unfortunately by the time you read my previous post and consider tuning in to Fox, all the "hard news" people will fade into the background and the talking head Sean Hannity will take over.
That's too bad

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Because of course they have to conflate two entirely different stories to distract from the Trump indictment. You really don’t need to show us Fox unless they do something out of character for them, lol.

No. The Biden story was out first and then hours later the Biden friendly DOJ had to indict Trump to distract from Biden's legal troubles. I was watching Jeopardy on ABC and it was interrupted by ABC News's Special Report on the Trump Federal Indictment news.

THIS is how it will be viewed by half of America. The FBI used to be perceived as not favoring one party or the other. Now it seems to favor the Democratic Party. This is the perception.
You'll never see the other side because you don't make the same effort to view balanced reporting like I do. I've informed my forum colleagues tonight.
I've done my part.
Good night!
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And for any newbees to my posts....
I am anti Trump.
I wish for Trump to be held accountable for any and all wrong doings.
He should never ever be President again.
Yet Biden and Hunter need a serious microscope placed on them as well.
Done.

 

[MT15]

Steve, your thesis has a huge and I mean HUGE fallacy, well a couple.

1. There is no real left media bias with most of the news organizations - at least nothing like what Fox engages in. Certainly not in CBS, ABC, AP, Reuters, CNN. This is a narrative that Fox has pushed - similar to what Trump has pushed - to get you to rely on them and believe their biases. And their bias is a doozy - they push conspiracy theories and no, not just on the primetime lineup. Their morning show is almost as bad.

2. Nobody is covering up for any illegal activity by Biden. They are lying to you.

 

[MT15]

No. The Biden story was out first and the Biden friendly DOJ had to indict Trump to distract from Biden's legal troubles.
THIS is how it will be viewed by half of America.
You'll never see the other side because you don't make the same effort to view balanced reporting like I do. I've informed my forum colleagues tonight.
I've done my part.
Good night!

I cannot help it if people want to believe in fairy tales. And it’s far, far less than half the country Steve.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

No. The Biden story was out first and then hours later the Biden friendly DOJ had to indict Trump to distract from Biden's legal troubles. I was watching Jeopardy on ABC and it was interrupted by ABC News's Special Report on the Trump Federal Indictment news.

THIS is how it will be viewed by half of America.
You'll never see the other side because you don't make the same effort to view balanced reporting like I do. I've informed my forum colleagues tonight.
I've done my part.
Good night!
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And for any newbees to my posts....
I am anti Trump.
I wish for Trump to be held accountable for any and all wrong doings.
He should never ever be President again.
Yet Biden and Hunter need a serious microscope placed on them as well.
Done.

This is the problem with some people.
They are not willing to consider the viewpoint of half of America.
Posting facepalm emojis is not helpful.
Not respectful.