The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (9 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    Sure, sure. I wonder where I would get the idea you were implying racism? That never happens around here.

    Yeah, you started a thread about where to move incase big mean orange man is reelected by your fellow citizens. Tell me how I am sensitive again?




    I’ll go ahead and ask one more time- What specific issues do you have with Kamala Harris, or with a potential Kamala Harris presidency?
     
    Sure, sure. I wonder where I would get the idea you were implying racism? That never happens around here.

    Yeah, you started a thread about where to move incase big mean orange man is reelected by your fellow citizens. Tell me how I am sensitive again?
    “Raise deflector shields!”
     
    Ummm Pompeo actually said they have instructed staff to prepare for Trump 2nd term???

    Wtf is going on??

    Haven't followed last 6 days... Under Disney rock in Disney lol
     
    Just listening to one of the talking heads on the teevee, who made a good point that after 9/11, the US govt realized the importance of having a smooth transition of power since we are more vulnerable after a new President takes office.. It struck me that if terrorists or another country wanted to do massive harm to America- since it looks like we wont have any semblance of a transfer- the best time to do it would be sometime between Jan 19-21st.
     
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    Just listening to one of the talking heads on the teevee, who made a good point that after 9/11, the US govt realized the importance of having a smooth transition of power since we are more vulnerable after a new President takes office.. It struck me that if terrorists or another country wanted to do massive harm to America- since it looks like we wont have any semblance of a transfer- the best time to do it would be sometime between Jan 19

    My concern is that our capability to dole out some good ol fashioned mutually assured destruction won't be anywhere near operational between now and 1/20/21 with the DoD leadership & trump asleep at the wheel...maybe I'm just being alarmist
     
    My concern is that our capability to dole out some good ol fashioned mutually assured destruction won't be anywhere near operational between now and 1/20/21 with the DoD leadership & trump asleep at the wheel...maybe I'm just being alarmist
    Once Trump became a lame duck t'was highly predictable that he would stop giving any shirts about any aspects of his job where he could no longer see a self-interest.
     
    Once Trump became a lame duck t'was highly predictable that he would stop giving any shirts about any aspects of his job where he could no longer see a self-interest.
    Agreed...Like I said, my fear is that this country is totally unprotected right now and for the next 71 days. Without that deterrent...only god knows what can happen, maybe 2020 is the Series Finale and we just don't know it yet.
     
    I am so worried about everything they are gonna try to pull. I just can't shake this awful feeling that we are headed for a civil war or something.
     
    I am so worried about everything they are gonna try to pull. I just can't shake this awful feeling that we are headed for a civil war or something.

    Also a valid concern...we're one deranged whack-job away from something pretty freaking awful. Some say that this is all diversionary, while they do some last minute dirt covering...which I hope, but I can't shake that feeling that something epically catastrophic is going to happen.
     
    I put the odds on Trump and the GOP being able to stage a successful coup at about 50/50. Going to unplug from politics until it's clear Biden will assume the Presidency. At this point, assume and prepare for the worst. If that sounds dystopian, well... we're living in a dystopia. Good luck to us all.
     
    I am so worried about everything they are gonna try to pull. I just can't shake this awful feeling that we are headed for a civil war or something.
    It's not going to get there because of this.. but let's just say I did ... it's kind of crazy to think that one of the most basic arguments people on the right have made with an originalist type view of the second amendment is for self-defense/defense of the country in the event that tyranny came to America... ... And that if this hypothetical were to play out, once push came to shove those same people would ultimately be the ones taking up their arms in defense of the tyrannical.

    Trump runs a hell of a con even in the hypotheticals.
     
    I put the odds on Trump and the GOP being able to stage a successful coup at about 50/50. Going to unplug from politics until it's clear Biden will assume the Presidency. At this point, assume and prepare for the worst. If that sounds dystopian, well... we're living in a dystopia. Good luck to us all.
    I refuse to believe they are going to be able to effectively challenge in courts the ultimate results by thousands or tens of thousands of ballots across 5 or 6 states. It's not going to happen. If they try to get state GOP legislatures to overturn the results of their voters, it will permanently destroy the legitimacy of the U.S. government and political system, likely immediately tank the U.S. and world economy, and ignite a true civil war. That won't happen either unless they are really, really stupid and think they should follow the advice of Mark Levin.

    On the other hand...
     

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