The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (11 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     


    Man, when you've lost Bill Barr...



    Barr on Tuesday appeared to knock down one theory propagated by attorney and Trump ally Sidney Powell that Dominion Voting Systems were used to change votes and were backed by communist money.

    "There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results," Barr said. "And the [Department of Homeland Security (DHS)] and [Department of Justice (DOJ)] have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that."
     
    I can't wait for the Fox News "interview" about how big of a birch Bill Barr really is for an hour this Sunday. I mean, this is what Barr came back with after being called MIA, so maybe Trump will just punch lower.
     
    I just can't


    'MAGA types' = Fantastically minded and authoritarianly natured Trump supporters /right wingers who are driven only by their need to seek revenge upon their enemies and, while doing so, expose their blatant hypocrisy on the subject of law and order.

    MAGA types
     
    I can't wait for the Fox News "interview" about how big of a birch Bill Barr really is for an hour this Sunday. I mean, this is what Barr came back with after being called MIA, so maybe Trump will just punch lower.

    Fox lately has actually been a bit more sensible when it comes to the election. They'll probably give props to Barr. The only ones really going after Barr will be the usual Trump apologist suspects.
     

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