The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (1 Viewer)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    read the comments, but only if you want to be disabused of the notion that Trumpists would ever listen to reason. They read it and viewed it as disloyalty and just repeated the lies about “data dumps” and “more ballots returned than voters”. Tbh there are some there in the comments trying to debunk the lies, but they are called trolls and democrats. 🤦‍♀️

    There's little room for moderates in their party these days.
     
    Trump must be losing his mind right now. While in the process of certifying the election results, Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey was called by Trump. Live, on camera, he rejected the call and put his phone to the side. 😂

    Trump must be melting down worse than a 15 yo girl that just got canceled by her friend group.
     
    Trump must be losing his mind right now. While in the process of certifying the election results, Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey was called by Trump. Live, on camera, he rejected the call and put his phone to the side. 😂

    Trump must be melting down worse than a 15 yo girl that just got canceled by her friend group.

    Wait, please say there's video. I have to see that. :biglol:

    ETA: Found it...

     
    Two things...

    These hearings are a sad joke. They can't prove any of this in court, so they're trying to sway the weak minded into falling for this stuff in the court of public opinion.

    Also.. the President of the United States is retweeting a poster named 'catturd'. How pathetic is that?

     
    Two things...

    These hearings are a sad joke. They can't prove any of this in court, so they're trying to sway the weak minded into falling for this stuff in the court of public opinion.

    Also.. the President of the United States is retweeting a poster named 'catturd'. How pathetic is that?



    Last I read, these "public fact-finding hearings" in Arizona are actually put on by the Trump campaign (or the legal team) with state legislators invited to attend. Some of them do - but there's nothing even quasi-official about it.
     
    Last I read, these "public fact-finding hearings" in Arizona are actually put on by the Trump campaign (or the legal team) with state legislators invited to attend. Some of them do - but there's nothing even quasi-official about it.
    Reality TV

    Or as we used to say, pure political theater.
     
    So Lou Dobbs is calling for the Senate runoff in GA to be cancelled, as is Trump and Sidney Powell. Here is Trump’s tweet

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    So Lou Dobbs is calling for the Senate runoff in GA to be cancelled, as is Trump and Sidney Powell. Here is Trump’s tweet

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    The sad part about all of this is that there are millions of "Americans" that are perfectly fine with surrendering our democracy and appointing this idiot Supreme Leader for life. Along with those "Americans" are thousands of elected Republican officials who are also cool with that idea.
     

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