The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (10 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     


    Trump can't fire anyone to their face, can he?

    Not sure that's gonna happen. Not sure how the DOJ would be involved, but Meadow's did meet with the FDA earlier about vaccine approval status, etc. Maybe there is other legal red tape they want to make sure is cleared?

    I know.. I'm being generous.
     
    Based on Barr’s writings over the years, he head always believed in a very strong executive. He did some things that came off as hyper-partisan or even in Trump’s personal self-interest. But I think he was generally able to defend them on viewpoint and not violative of law.

    He swears an oath to the Constitution just like everyone else. There are bridges too far - and manufacturing a fraud case where these isn’t one appears to be such a bridge.
     
    Based on Barr’s writings over the years, he head always believed in a very strong executive. He did some things that came off as hyper-partisan or even in Trump’s personal self-interest. But I think he was generally able to defend them on viewpoint and not violative of law.

    He swears an oath to the Constitution just like everyone else. There are bridges too far - and manufacturing a fraud case where these isn’t one appears to be such a bridge.
     
    Yes, it’s really something when someone gets kudos for not being crazy enough to engage in a conspiracy to overturn the results of a lawful election.

    Also, Lou Dobbs is just gone, man, gone.



    Also, that chyron, what “progress” is the Trump legal team making? In every state? WTH is Dobbs blathering about?
     
    Yes, it’s really something when someone gets kudos for not being crazy enough to engage in a conspiracy to overturn the results of a lawful election.

    Also, Lou Dobbs is just gone, man, gone.



    Also, that chyron, what “progress” is the Trump legal team making? In every state? WTH is Dobbs blathering about?


    Good lord he's a kook now. :covri:
     
    This is truly a damn shame that this is where we are. Props to the official for calling Trump, Perdue, and Loeffler out for this crap.

     
    This is one of Trump’s lawyers, I think. At what point is this crossing a legal line? Advocating for overthrow of a valid election?

     
    This is one of Trump’s lawyers, I think. At what point is this crossing a legal line? Advocating for overthrow of a valid election?



    I don't think he's actually a lawyer for Trump or the Trump campaign. I could be wrong but I think he has filed election challenges to benefit Trump - he's a Trump ally - but his clients were others with purported standing to challenge the Georgia elections.
     
    I don't think he's actually a lawyer for Trump or the Trump campaign. I could be wrong but I think he has filed election challenges to benefit Trump - he's a Trump ally - but his clients were others with purported standing to challenge the Georgia elections.

    He was the lawyer for the Covington Catholic kid. Trump is not his client but he is full blown MAGA.
     
    I don't think he's actually a lawyer for Trump or the Trump campaign. I could be wrong but I think he has filed election challenges to benefit Trump - he's a Trump ally - but his clients were others with purported standing to challenge the Georgia elections.

    In all fairness, is it even possible to know who is a lawyer for Trump or his campaign?

    Trump tweets that Sidney Powell is part of his team, and shortly after, the campaign issues a statement that she isn't a member of the team, nor is she representing Trump personally.
     
    Pretty funny thread here about the testimony and "evidence" from today's ridiculous Michigan Senate hearing.



    And despite being by Twitter user "Sandwich Breathe" it is all real.



    Didn't one of them also sign an affidavit that they felt intimidated because a large black man was wearing a BLM shirt?

    The last guy is my favorite though. In 2008, 2012, 2018, and 2020, they used Dominion's algorithms to steal the election. I guess someone forgot to click the right icon in 2016?
     

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