The Trump Cabinet and key post thread (1 Viewer)

[superchuck500]

Surely to be a clown show. We know that RFK certainly thinks he’s getting nominated for HHS, which includes FDA.

 

[SFIDC3]

I’m sure his supporters are well aware of his faults.

This says it all, he is basically unable to recognize a cult when he see's one or he's just being disingenuous.....I'll go for the latter and say you guys are feeding a troll at this point.....

 

[MT15]

Anyone who doesn’t agree with you isn’t living in reality.

Still evading the discussion, still dodging, eh?

No, I’m fine with people disagreeing with me. I’m not very tolerant of those who want to peddle disinformation though. So - can you address any of the actual facts that have been brought up about Trump?

I don’t think you can, all you can do is point fingers at Democrats. Sorry, the GOP is responsible for this mess. They are the party of lying and corruption now.

 

[faceman]

I’m sure his supporters are well aware of his faults. When faced with a choice between Trump and Harris/Biden, they choose Trump. Perhaps they believed his opponent was less qualified than he? Perhaps they didn’t care for Biden Harris policies. Both candidates were known quantities. All most of them had to do was compare one 4 year term against another.

I get you and the Dems don’t understand it. Maybe they aren’t as connected to “the people” and their concerns as they think. So instead of addressing that, they blame the voter. Not a good strategy if you ask me.

I'm a conservative Republican and I don't get it either. My grandfather once said vote for the better person.Trump ain't it. Why do ou fail to understand? You sir are putting politics over human decency

 

[TampaJoe]

Still evading the discussion, still dodging, eh?

No, I’m fine with people disagreeing with me. I’m not very tolerant of those who want to peddle disinformation though. So - can you address any of the actual facts that have been brought up about Trump?

I don’t think you can, all you can do is point fingers at Democrats. Sorry, the GOP is responsible for this mess. They are the party of lying and corruption now.

Are you now? Disinformation? What did I say that wasn’t true? Be specific.

As for addressing facts about Trump. There have been many statements about Trump. Some I agree with. Some I don’t. But I’m not sure why you expect me to defend the man. I didn’t vote for him. So if the point is to convince me why I shouldn’t have voted for the man, the point was and is moot.

As for blaming Democrats, who picked their candidate(s)? Who ran their campaign? Who ran the Biden administration? Who made their policy decisions? Last I recall Democrats ran the Democrats Party. They don’t ask me. I doubt they ask Republicans. So if the Democrats lost the election, who do you think is at fault. I think you would like to blame everyone except the actual decision makers in the Democrat Party. Maybe that’s your version of reality? Maybe that’s your version of taking responsibility.

I remember as a kid growing up playing sports, when you lose, you don’t blame the fans. You don’t blame the ref. You don’t blame the other team. You accept it, put on your big boy pants and take responsibility. Accept the loss and get better. It’s a valuable life lesson obviously lost to you.

 

[TampaJoe]

I'm a conservative Republican and I don't get it either. My grandfather once said vote for the better person.Trump ain't it. Why do ou fail to understand? You sir are putting politics over human decency

I didn’t vote for Trump. I didn’t nominate Trump. I’m not a member of the Republican Party. I didn’t vote for Harris because I didn’t think she was fit for the job. What is so difficult for you to understand?

 

[bird]

I didn’t vote for Trump. I didn’t nominate Trump. I’m not a member of the Republican Party. I didn’t vote for Harris because I didn’t think she was fit for the job. What is so difficult for you to understand?

You didn’t vote for Harris because you don’t vote for Democrats.

 

[TampaJoe]

You didn’t vote for Harris because you don’t vote for Democrats.

No. She was the last choice of your party when she ran on her own. When you guys couldn’t gaslight the public any longer about Biden and kicked him to the curb, he stuck it Pelosi and Obama and endorsed Harris. IOW he stuck you with her. She isn’t qualified for the office. I think she was barely qualified for the Senate.

So no Bird. I didn’t vote for her because she wasn’t qualified in my opinion. Evidently she wasn’t qualified in the opinion of a majority of the voters. Perhaps you and your party should have given that some thought. Maybe the result would have been different. I don’t run your party anymore than I run the GOP.

So nice try but no cigar.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

No. She was the last choice of your party when she ran on her own. When you guys couldn’t gaslight the public any longer about Biden and kicked him to the curb, he stuck it Pelosi and Obama and endorsed Harris. IOW he stuck you with her. She isn’t qualified for the office. I think she was barely qualified for the Senate.

So no Bird. I didn’t vote for her because she wasn’t qualified in my opinion. Evidently she wasn’t qualified in the opinion of a majority of the voters. Perhaps you and your party should have given that some thought. Maybe the result would have been different. I don’t run your party anymore than I run the GOP.

So nice try but no cigar.

How do you figure?

 

[MT15]

What did I say that wasn’t true?

See my post about your statement that Harris only talked about Trump and not her policies. I clearly pointed out how you were basically describing the Trump campaign and ascribing it to Harris.

My contention is that it’s basically disingenuous to absolve the GOP of blame for running a man who is unfit for office. The GOP voters do carry the blame that this man was nominated.

 

[TampaJoe]

See my post about your statement that Harris only talked about Trump and not her policies. I clearly pointed out how you were basically describing the Trump campaign and ascribing it to Harris.

My contention is that it’s basically disingenuous to absolve the GOP of blame for running a man who is unfit for office. The GOP voters do carry the blame that this man was nominated.

I haven’t attempted to absolve the GOP of anything. The GOP is responsible for Trump. The Dems are responsible for Harris/Biden.

You can’t blame Biden Harris election loss on the GOP. They didn’t chose your candidate, they didn’t run her campaign. They didn’t chose her policies. Evidently you don’t get how elections work. Campaigns compete for votes. It’s naive to expect the other party to surrender. To use your words, it’s delusional. Maybe that is your reality.

 

[bird]

No. She was the last choice of your party when she ran on her own. When you guys couldn’t gaslight the public any longer about Biden and kicked him to the curb, he stuck it Pelosi and Obama and endorsed Harris. IOW he stuck you with her. She isn’t qualified for the office. I think she was barely qualified for the Senate.

So no Bird. I didn’t vote for her because she wasn’t qualified in my opinion. Evidently she wasn’t qualified in the opinion of a majority of the voters. Perhaps you and your party should have given that some thought. Maybe the result would have been different. I don’t run your party anymore than I run the GOP.

So nice try but no cigar.

Sorry, but I have heard your tapdancing for years.

You don’t vote democratic and then play your game.

Your better candidates bullschlitz was deflection and misdirection. You actually don’t care who is run by Republicans. And you do prefer that Dems run someone you think is beatable no matter no matter who Republicans run. I actually believe you don’t like Trump and that you didn’t vote for him. I also know that is irrelevant because you like his and the party’s policies so you support the party. Your “I am not GOP” is bullschlitz. Of course, it is possible that some policies are not good but, again, you don’t care because you will vote Republican. Saying you are not GOP merely gives you an illusion of “clean hands”.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I remember as a kid growing up playing sports, when you lose, you don’t blame the fans. You don’t blame the ref. You don’t blame the other team. You accept it, put on your big boy pants and take responsibility. Accept the loss and get better. It’s a valuable life lesson obviously lost to you.

Just like Trump and the GOP did in 2020?

Kamala lost a a variety of reason but you’ll never convince that one of them wasn’t that Trump was allowed to blatantly lie about that election for four years to the point that over 70% of republicans believed that it was stolen

Oh, and get off your high horse

Trump and the GOP were 100% prepared to claim this election was also stolen had they lost, they had lawyers, lawsuits, protestors ready to be deployed the second the race was called

No one here is saying Trump didn’t win, we can’t believe he won, we question why he won not that he won

Denying a loss is a GOP move. Accept the loss and get better?

They threw a years long temper tantrum and pouted, got worse and somehow got re-elected

 

[TampaJoe]

Sorry, but I have heard your tapdancing for years.

You don’t vote democratic and then play your game.

Your better candidates bullschlitz was deflection and misdirection. You actually don’t care who is run by Republicans. And you do prefer that Dems run someone you think is beatable no matter no matter who Republicans run. I actually believe you don’t like Trump and that you didn’t vote for him. I also know that is irrelevant because you like his and the party’s policies so you support the party. Your “I am not GOP” is bullschlitz. Of course, it is possible that some policies are not good but, again, you don’t care because you will vote Republican. Saying you are not GOP merely gives you an illusion of “clean hands”.

Why would I vote for a Presidential candidate in either party who I believe to be unfit or whose policy and ideology I cannot support?

I have no problem not supporting Trump. That does not mean I will vote like a progressive.

 

[TampaJoe]

Just like Trump and the GOP did in 2020?

Kamala lost a a variety of reason but you’ll never convince that one of them wasn’t that Trump was allowed to blatantly lie about that election for four years to the point that over 70% of republicans believed that it was stolen

Oh, and get off your high horse

Trump and the GOP were 100% prepared to claim this election was also stolen had they lost, they had lawyers, lawsuits, protestors ready to be deployed the second the race was called

No one here is saying Trump didn’t win, we can’t believe he won, we question why he won not that he won

Denying a loss is a GOP move. Accept the loss and get better?

They threw a years long temper tantrum and pouted, got worse and somehow got re-elected

I stated at the time that Trump should have conceded when the last state certified. I was never an election denier. I actually believe in the process. I don’t get angry with people who chose to vote differently than I. That’s how elections work.

As for lying. Biden and his administration was gaslighting the public for years. So don’t lecture me on honesty like the Dems don’t lie. They do. They have. That is the ultimate pot calling the kettle black.

As for accepting the loss, calling the voters delusional isn’t accepting the loss. If you want to know why, ask people who didn’t vote for Harris and actually listen to them instead of insulting them.

 

[bird]

Why would I vote for a Presidential candidate in either party who I believe to be unfit or whose policy and ideology I cannot support?

I have no problem not supporting Trump. That does not mean I will vote like a progressive.

Thanks for confirming exactly what I said and have been saying all along.

 

[TampaJoe]

Thanks for confirming exactly what I said and have been saying all along.

I confirmed what I’ve been saying all along.

 

[TampaJoe]

IKR, our economy is the worst in the world due to its failure to recover from COVID. (GDP up 2.6 vs trump's 2.3. Stocks at record highs. Inflation lower than our peers.) How will trump fix this broken economy? Tariffs?

Trump spent his entire campaign demonizing the others, labeling non-trump supporters "ENEMIES OF THE STATE", and describing all democrats as evil.

Then when he won the election, he convinced his delusional supporters that his win was a landslide that has given him a mandate. Has he even reached over 50% of the vote? Last I checked, more Americans voted for someone other than trump.

Instead of nominating these circus clowns, he should be trying to find a way to work together with his fellow AMERICANS...and that means working with those EVIL Democrats.

I hope he will attempt to work across the aisle and hope Dems will do the same.

As a side note: is referring to people who happen to belong to the other party delusional demonizing or is it a term of endearment?

Perhaps both sides would benefit from a little less vitriol.

 

[bird]

I confirmed what I’ve been saying all along.

Keep telling yourself that. It is necessary for you to maintain your fiction.

You vote Republican, period. Your not voting for Trump means nothing.