Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (2 Viewers)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[MT15]

It's incredibly hypocritical how these laws fly in the face of their fevered promotion of firearms.

Is a woman's womb not her castle? If something in her castle threatens her life, she can shoot it. But she can't slay it in any other way. Insane.

This is why people say these laws diminish women’s “personhood”. Women are not given full agency - once they become pregnant they lose their rights. Monsters think this way.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

George Carlin was so ahead of his time speaking about this loudly..
but this holds true 35 years later as if no time has passed...

 

[MT15]

This shows how much the rape exception actually harms women (or girls) rather than helps them. Women who report rape are generally treated like shirt.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

This shows how much the rape exception actually harms women (or girls) rather than helps them. Women who report rape are generally treated like shirt.

And of course those butt crevasses are protected by qualified immunity, right?

 

[MT15]

 

[Optimus Prime]

When Maxwell Frost bounded on stage at a Saturday morning rally in support of Floridaabortion rights, the 27-year-old congressman was quick to explain why he had shown up.

“I’m so proud to be here as an ally and partner in this fight!” he yelled to the roughly hundred-strong crowd who had gathered in an Orlando church courtyard, clutching handwritten sings with messages like “abortion bans are killing us” and “womb-tang clan ain’t nothing to fork with”.

His biological mother had given him up for adoption, said Frost, who wore a black T-shirt that read “Abortion is Health Care”. “The thing that made it sacred was the fact that she had a choice,” Frost said. “I’ve had enough of people trying to use parts of all of our identities to take away freedoms from other people.”

The crowd – mostly women – roared in response.


In an election where women’s access to abortion has become a top issue, activists are now rushing to convince men that they also have a stake in the fight – and that, come Tuesday, they should vote accordingly.

Although men support abortion rights at similar rates as women, they seem to be far less driven by the issue. Less than half of men identify as “pro-choice”, according to Gallup, and are far more likely to see the economy or immigration as their top issue. One poll of men of color found that, although more than 80% believe abortion should be legal, less than half prioritized candidates who supported abortion rights.

“It’s that common misconception that abortion is a woman’s issue,” said Zach Rivera, a 24-year-old activist with Men4Choice, a national group dedicated to energizing men who support abortion rights.…….

In Florida, the future of abortion might come down to men

Women’s access to abortion is a top issue, as activists rush to convince men they also have stake in the fight

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

…….Republicans have won control of the Senate and are likely to capture the House of Representatives; if they do, they may well advance legislation to ban abortion nationwide. (And to pass it: there is no reason to believe that a Republican governing trifecta will preserve the filibuster.)

A bill like this would probably not be termed a “ban” by its sponsors: Republicans, wary of the public disapproval of abortion bans, have started calling their new abortion restrictions by chillingly imprecise euphemisms, such as “standard” or even “protection”.

But the effect of the laws are the same: to outlaw abortions. This could take the form of a gestational limit, or of the federal recognition of fetal personhood.

Trump may well sign such legislation into law, eliminating abortion rights even in Democratic-controlled states and those that have recently passed abortion rights referendums with the stroke of a pen.

But Republicans do not even need to manage to pass a bill through Congress to make abortion much more difficult to get. Trump can simply restrict abortion through federal agencies.

He will soon be in control of the FDA, for example, which regulates the abortion drug mifepristone, part of a two-drug regimen that now accounts for most abortions in the United States.

Mifepristone is a safe, effective drug that allows abortions to be performed in the privacy of patients’ homes, with little of the expensive clinical involvement and overhead that makes surgical abortions more time-intensive and costly for providers and patients alike.

Naturally, the anti-abortion movement hates it. Since Dobbs, a coalition of anti-choice groups and Republican attorneys general have been suing the FDA, seeking to overturn the agency’s 2000 approval of the drug.

Trump will be able to rescind access to it almost immediately, taking the drug off the legal US market. If he gives the anti-choice movement what they want, he may also direct the FDA to revoke approval of the most reliable forms of female-controlled contraception, like Plan B, IUDs, and certain birth control pills, which the anti-choice movement falsely claims cause abortions.

Trump is likely to also revive enforcement of the Comstock Act, a long-dormant 1873 law that bans the shipment of anything that could be used to induce an abortion through the US mail.

The Comstock Act has not been enforced in decades – parts of it were repealed in the 20th century, and other sections were long rendered moot by supreme court precedents like Roe and Casey – and would have the effect of criminalizing much abortion care.

Since Dobbs, several Democratic-controlled states have passed what are called shield laws, which protect doctors who mail abortion drugs from states where the procedure is legal into states that have bans.

This mail-order abortion operation is, for now, technically legal: it has preserved women’s independence and dignity and no doubt saved thousands of lives.

But when the Comstock Act is enforced, much of this sector of abortion provision will disappear. Combined with the revocation of FDA approval for mifepristone, this will inevitably mean that many women seeking abortions will turn to black market surgical abortion providers, and suffer the risks attendant to such procedures.

A return to pre-Roe levels of abortion ban-related mortality could probably follow.

Trump is also likely to reverse the Biden administration’s guidance on Emtala, the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, a federal law that requires emergency rooms to provide stabilizing care to all patients facing health crises.

Emtala has been the subject of much post-Dobbs litigation, as states like Idaho and Texas have sought to argue that their abortion bans supersede the federal law, thus requiring hospitals in their states to withhold emergency abortions from women in medical emergencies who will suffer or die without them.

The US supreme court declined to decide the issue last summer; a Trump administration may help to resolve it for them………

Make no mistake: this Trump presidency will continue to attack abortion rights | Moira Donegan

Just because Trump is publicly distancing himself from abortion does not mean Republicans won’t enact a national ban

www.theguardian.com

 

[Sendai]

…….Republicans have won control of the Senate and are likely to capture the House of Representatives; if they do, they may well advance legislation to ban abortion nationwide. (And to pass it: there is no reason to believe that a Republican governing trifecta will preserve the filibuster.)

A bill like this would probably not be termed a “ban” by its sponsors: Republicans, wary of the public disapproval of abortion bans, have started calling their new abortion restrictions by chillingly imprecise euphemisms, such as “standard” or even “protection”.

But the effect of the laws are the same: to outlaw abortions. This could take the form of a gestational limit, or of the federal recognition of fetal personhood.

Trump may well sign such legislation into law, eliminating abortion rights even in Democratic-controlled states and those that have recently passed abortion rights referendums with the stroke of a pen.

But Republicans do not even need to manage to pass a bill through Congress to make abortion much more difficult to get. Trump can simply restrict abortion through federal agencies.

He will soon be in control of the FDA, for example, which regulates the abortion drug mifepristone, part of a two-drug regimen that now accounts for most abortions in the United States.

Mifepristone is a safe, effective drug that allows abortions to be performed in the privacy of patients’ homes, with little of the expensive clinical involvement and overhead that makes surgical abortions more time-intensive and costly for providers and patients alike.

Naturally, the anti-abortion movement hates it. Since Dobbs, a coalition of anti-choice groups and Republican attorneys general have been suing the FDA, seeking to overturn the agency’s 2000 approval of the drug.

Trump will be able to rescind access to it almost immediately, taking the drug off the legal US market. If he gives the anti-choice movement what they want, he may also direct the FDA to revoke approval of the most reliable forms of female-controlled contraception, like Plan B, IUDs, and certain birth control pills, which the anti-choice movement falsely claims cause abortions.

Trump is likely to also revive enforcement of the Comstock Act, a long-dormant 1873 law that bans the shipment of anything that could be used to induce an abortion through the US mail.

The Comstock Act has not been enforced in decades – parts of it were repealed in the 20th century, and other sections were long rendered moot by supreme court precedents like Roe and Casey – and would have the effect of criminalizing much abortion care.

Since Dobbs, several Democratic-controlled states have passed what are called shield laws, which protect doctors who mail abortion drugs from states where the procedure is legal into states that have bans.

This mail-order abortion operation is, for now, technically legal: it has preserved women’s independence and dignity and no doubt saved thousands of lives.

But when the Comstock Act is enforced, much of this sector of abortion provision will disappear. Combined with the revocation of FDA approval for mifepristone, this will inevitably mean that many women seeking abortions will turn to black market surgical abortion providers, and suffer the risks attendant to such procedures.

A return to pre-Roe levels of abortion ban-related mortality could probably follow.

Trump is also likely to reverse the Biden administration’s guidance on Emtala, the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, a federal law that requires emergency rooms to provide stabilizing care to all patients facing health crises.

Emtala has been the subject of much post-Dobbs litigation, as states like Idaho and Texas have sought to argue that their abortion bans supersede the federal law, thus requiring hospitals in their states to withhold emergency abortions from women in medical emergencies who will suffer or die without them.

The US supreme court declined to decide the issue last summer; a Trump administration may help to resolve it for them………

Make no mistake: this Trump presidency will continue to attack abortion rights | Moira Donegan

Just because Trump is publicly distancing himself from abortion does not mean Republicans won’t enact a national ban

www.theguardian.com

The Supreme Court in Dobbs declared abortion a state issue so Congress has no authority to legislate on abortion.

 

[DaveXA]

The Supreme Court in Dobbs declared abortion a state issue so Congress has no authority to legislate on abortion.

Maybe, but that won’t stop them from trying.

 

[bird]

The Supreme Court in Dobbs declared abortion a state issue so Congress has no authority to legislate on abortion.

Yes…or no.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10787

 

[bird]

On a side but related note, the time has come to eliminate the several states as “sovereign”. The mish-mash regarding not just abortion but other issues as well is making a messy situation worse. I would go so far as to establish provinces as opposed to states. The number of provinces could be 6-8 in number. I would also decrease the number of persons that a congressperson represents from its current number to 25,000. I would also eliminate the senate as well as the electoral college.

Yes, I am well aware that this would mean a new constitution.

A guy can dream, can’t he?

 

[Sendai]

Yes…or no.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10787

That’s a solid maybe, maybe not, who knows

 

[Optimus Prime]

That’s a solid maybe, maybe not, who knows

And that’s the existential dread we all will have to live through

Nationwide abortion ban?

Deporting millions of law abiding people?

Cancelling healthcare for millions with no replacement?

Banning birth control?

Getting rid of vaccine requirements?

“Maybe, maybe not, who knows”

But, by god at least the one 15 year old trans kid in the whole state trying to play volleyball won’t be able to

The answers under a Harris administration would have been a definitive ‘absolutely not’

But playing ‘wait and see’ could be fun too

 

[MT15]

They will abso-freaking-lutely pass a national abortion ban, as soon as they can. Trump will sign it and nobody will give a crap about the fake SCOTUS ruling.

Anyone who thinks anit-abortionists will be satisfied with any abortions at all in any state is either being foolish or disingenuous.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The anti-abortion movement is ready for its comeback in 2025.

With the return of Donald Trump to the White House, complete with a Republican-dominated Congress, anti-abortion groups are unfurling ambitious lists of policies they hope to see enacted under a sympathetic administration.

In the two years since the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade, the movement has largely been relegated to playing defense.

Popular support of abortion rights surged, while red-state voters defended abortion rights through ballot measures and many Republicans downplayed their opposition to the procedure.


Now, they are ready to go back on the offense.

Earlier this week, the powerful Students for Life of America released its wishlist of federal legislation, entitled “Make America Pro-Life Again”, which takes direct aim at access to abortion pills.

The group is backing federal bills that would ban abortion pills entirely, outlaw telehealth abortionsand require medical-grade cleanup of the pregnancy remains left behind by medication abortions.

(Students for Life argues that the pills pose a threat to the US water supply because people may pass the remains of their pregnancy into the toilet.) Currently, abortion pills account for roughly two-thirds of US abortions………

Emboldened anti-abortion groups create wishlist for second Trump term

‘Make America pro-life again’ legislation includes banning abortion pills entirely and outlawing telehealth abortions

www.theguardian.com

Emboldened anti-abortion groups create wishlist for second Trump term

‘Make America pro-life again’ legislation includes banning abortion pills entirely and outlawing telehealth abortions

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

The anti-abortion movement is ready for its comeback in 2025.

With the return of Donald Trump to the White House, complete with a Republican-dominated Congress, anti-abortion groups are unfurling ambitious lists of policies they hope to see enacted under a sympathetic administration.

In the two years since the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade, the movement has largely been relegated to playing defense.

Popular support of abortion rights surged, while red-state voters defended abortion rights through ballot measures and many Republicans downplayed their opposition to the procedure.


Now, they are ready to go back on the offense.

Earlier this week, the powerful Students for Life of America released its wishlist of federal legislation, entitled “Make America Pro-Life Again”, which takes direct aim at access to abortion pills.

The group is backing federal bills that would ban abortion pills entirely, outlaw telehealth abortionsand require medical-grade cleanup of the pregnancy remains left behind by medication abortions.

(Students for Life argues that the pills pose a threat to the US water supply because people may pass the remains of their pregnancy into the toilet.) Currently, abortion pills account for roughly two-thirds of US abortions………

Emboldened anti-abortion groups create wishlist for second Trump term

‘Make America pro-life again’ legislation includes banning abortion pills entirely and outlawing telehealth abortions

www.theguardian.com

Emboldened anti-abortion groups create wishlist for second Trump term

‘Make America pro-life again’ legislation includes banning abortion pills entirely and outlawing telehealth abortions

www.theguardian.com

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever read, what the hell do they think people put in the toilet daily? Where do they think menstrual blood goes? What do they think wastewater treatment is for? What do they think happens when miscarriages naturally occur?

Sometimes I simply cannot believe anyone gives credence to these people.

 

[CoolBrees]

I hope they pass a national 6 week abortion ban

 

[superchuck500]