Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (2 Viewers)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[MT15]

 

[Nolaswede]

Just throwing this out there, but if the SCOTUS rules something that's seemingly in favor of a religion, people and other religions need to exploit the heck out of those provisions and show that everyone has the same rights. If a coach can't be prohibited from praying after football games, he can say a Hindu prayer or whatever.

Same with any other ruling. We're not a theocracy nor a dictatorship. Everyone should get equal treatment.

Would love to see students, before a game, bring out prayer mats right by the 50
Yard line. Scotus would probably ban it before the end of the 4th quarter!

 

[SFIDC3]

As someone who has lived through Midwest winters, I have thought seriously about moving to Washington. It has very mild winters, no state income tax, and is socially liberal.

WA has no state income tax

Oregon has no sales tax.

A lot of folks work in live in Vancouver, WA and work in Portland - the Columbia River Is the border. That way they get Portland with no sales tax and WA with no income tax.

My old director moved to that area, they love it there FWIW….

I hope that MS speaker of the house has a heart attack and dies, what a pile of excrement….

 

[CoolBrees]

Well we are always accepting refugees from the new United Southern Sates Republic

My best friend I met here in Portland. He is from the 9th Ward by way of Houston after Katrina. He followed his cousin up.

Aside from cannabis, strip clubs and the naked bike ride Portland is known for our donuts (voodoo is now national). The best donuts, imo, come from one of the NOLA Donuts shops. Owner is from Lafayette and they do beignets and cro-nuts that are amazing.

Legal cannabis, rivers, mountains oceans, mild weather and a super majority of the left (not Dems) in our State House.

We are about to pass the most robust women’s health bill this nation has ever seen.

Part of it, we are going to offer Oregon Health services free to out of state individuals seeking services offered in Oregon not offered elsewhere. We are building a state fund to help low income individuals in others states with their travel costs. Oregon is planning on buying airtime in other markets to let people know you can come to Oregon and be treated like a human; not livestock.

Just come join us.

Seriously it is time to abandon Texas etc. The SC has said they get to enact all the crazy sky man laws they want; well that also means we get to act like a functioning society with an education - that’s school Farb- and enact all the laws we want to as well.

And look at it this way. When Trump gets elected again in 24 you will be living only 2-4 hours by car from the Canadian border, and beautiful - and I mean stunningly gorgeous- Vancouver BC.

We will leave the light on for you

 

[Saintamaniac]

I hope that MS speaker of the house has a heart attack and dies,

Shhhhhh! You're saying the quiet part out loud.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

 

[zztop]

this will be the first of many articles like this in the upcoming years

Who Will Help Care for Texas’ Post-Roe Babies? (Published 2022)

Even some anti-abortion adherents say Texas is failing families left impoverished by its war against abortion.

www.nytimes.com

Texas opted not to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, which helped lead to hospital closures and the formation of rural health care “deserts,” where obstetricians are scarce and prenatal care scarcer still. More than a quarter of women of childbearing age are uninsured, the highest rate in the nation. Medicaid covers low-income women through pregnancy and for two months postpartum, compared with 12 months in most states.

A proposal in the Texas House to expand postpartum coverage to 12 months was cut to 6 months by the state Senate. Tens of thousands of children born to low-income parents languish on the waiting list for subsidized child care.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Effecting the dating world
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…..In the wake of the Dobbs decision, others are having those conversations earlier in the dating process than they used to.


Rachel Chaggaris, a 25-year-old structural engineer in Denver, matched with a few men on the dating app Hinge soon after the decision was handed down on Friday. They all asked a version of the same question: What was she up to that weekend?

She gave them all a similar response, she said: She was going to a protest for abortion rights and then to a Pride event. Doing so, Chaggaris said, was a “convenient” way to gauge their reactions.

Two men didn’t reply, she said, and one replied enthusiastically about those plans.
“I need to date someone who views me as a human that’s equal to them,” Chaggaris said.


While she has always aimed to date liberal men, “it’s definitely just become far more important since Roe being overturned,” she said. And if abortion doesn’t come up in her dating app chats, “by the second or third date, I’m definitely going to try to bring it up somehow,” she added…..

The dating app OkCupid made that easier last fall: After Texas’s abortion law took effect, the app introduced a “pro-choice” badge users could add to their profiles.

More than 450,000 app users within the United States have added the badge to their profiles, according to a spokesperson, who added that this month there was an 80 percent increase in OkCupid users who mentioned being “pro choice” in their profiles compared with April……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/06/29/relationships-post-roe/

 

[SystemShock]

this will be the first of many articles like this in the upcoming years

Who Will Help Care for Texas’ Post-Roe Babies? (Published 2022)

Even some anti-abortion adherents say Texas is failing families left impoverished by its war against abortion.

www.nytimes.com

Texas opted not to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, which helped lead to hospital closures and the formation of rural health care “deserts,” where obstetricians are scarce and prenatal care scarcer still. More than a quarter of women of childbearing age are uninsured, the highest rate in the nation. Medicaid covers low-income women through pregnancy and for two months postpartum, compared with 12 months in most states.

A proposal in the Texas House to expand postpartum coverage to 12 months was cut to 6 months by the state Senate. Tens of thousands of children born to low-income parents languish on the waiting list for subsidized child care.

Eventually the headline will read "Darwin proven right"

 

[MT15]

This isn’t all that uncommon. A child of that age will have a very difficult pregnancy. Ask any OB-GYN.

 

[MT15]

This is a great article. I wish every anti-abortion Christian would read it.

Overturning Roe v. Wade Isn't About Christian Morals or Protecting Life

Dante Stewart, the author of Shoutin' in the Fire: An American Epistle, says abortion restrictions aren't about religious morals. They're about white control, and Black women will suffer most.

www.parents.com

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Edit: Referenced by MT15 in a post above...



Brought to you by right-wing Christian Nationalism. What a disgrace.

 

[Lapaz]

Don't know is this was already posted but...



Brought to you by right-wing Christian Nationalism. What a disgrace.

I saw one reply that said that the timing of this story was convenient. What that idiot doesn’t realize is that this probably happens almost everyday somewhere in the U.S. No timing is needed. It is real life, but anti-abortionist believe life is a fairy tale. They don’t realize the tragic situations that their absolutist attitudes towards fetuses is going to create.

 

[MT15]

This is the level of evil we are dealing with:

 

[Optimus Prime]

This is the level of evil we are dealing with:

Ah, the old “if you didn’t make me so mad I wouldn’t hit you” defense

“If you didn’t make Obama president we wouldn’t have voted for Trump”

Maybe decades from now it’ll be “if you didn’t insist that anyone, with no restrictions, can buy any gun they want, and carry it openly wherever they want the 2nd amendment wouldn’t have been repealed”

 

[Optimus Prime]

Really good read
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……But I also felt actual nausea as I flashed back to my own difficult pregnancy. I suffered from hyperemesis gravidarum — a detached-sounding clinical term that describes vomiting constantly while pregnant. It’s like morning sickness, but all day and for all three trimesters (waning only, in my case, in the very last month).

I couldn’t swallow prenatal vitamins; cucumbers were one of the few foods I could keep down. My throat ached from stomach acid, and I was weak.

Sometimes I was bedridden and almost never was I able to get work done (except to write occasional poems about, yes, pregnancy and nausea).

Eventually, I wound up on Zofran, a drug sometimes prescribed to patients undergoing chemotherapy. (It didn’t really work.)

Mercifully, my husband and I had some savings, so I could sink into an entropic duvet existence till I gave birth and was no longer imprisoned in my own ill body.


As many as a third of women experience some form of trauma during pregnancy or birth — caused not only by illnesses like mine but also by such things as complications during delivery and inadequate support during labor.

And a significant fraction who experience this suffering also end up with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

After I gave birth, I had some of the classic signs of post-traumatic stress disorder: I constantly replayed the worst moments of my pregnancy; I suffered from anxiety spikes; and I avoided anything that reminded me of pregnancy.

In fact, I tossed my maternity clothes as soon as I could. The latter was part of my effort to dissociate from that time.

That disassociation may explain why it took Roe’s demise to grasp that what I suffered from was psychologically diagnosable: Yes, that was indeed PTSD.

Estimates of the proportion of women with pregnancy-and-birth-related PTSD range widely (from 4 percent to 19 percent, depending on the study), but it is known to disproportionately affect women who have had previous trauma or who are financially stressed — as well as women of color…..

For decades, the antiabortion camp has inundated the public with claims about the ostensible suffering of groups of fetal cells (in propaganda like “The Silent Scream”); those who worked to reverse abortion rights point to the electrical impulses in these cells and call them, misleadingly, “heartbeats.”

Meanwhile, the very real bodily and mental suffering of many pregnant women gets short shrift.

Until I myself developed hyperemesis gravidarum, I had no idea that 0.5 percent to 2 percent of pregnant women confront it, or that, among those, more than half end up with at least one PTSD symptom, according to one study, and fully 20 percent experience “full criteria” PTSD…..

People who give birth willingly can, with difficulty, reconcile themselves to pregnancy-related trauma because they want to have a child.

But if I had not desired my daughter with all my heart, the physical pain I experienced, which also caused psychologically scarring, would have been akin to torture……..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/06/24/dobbs-roe-forced-pregnancy/

 

[Optimus Prime]

Good read from a different perspective
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Why do we not have a term for men who have had abortions? Men may not undergo the procedure, but they are in sexual relationships resulting in pregnancies that are terminated.

What do we call them? “Father of the fetus” seems odd, as do “male counterpart” and the overly clinical “inseminating partner.”


It matters that we don’t have a name for the man in that relationship. Because in this moment, when abortion has again become a crime in so much of the country, the dissenters in the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade talk about the opinion’s ignoring “the importance of reproductive rights for women’s liberty.”

Certainly, this is first and foremost a women’s issue — an issue of a woman’s health, a woman’s life, a woman’s freedom. And without a doubt, the decision about what to do about an unwanted pregnancy lies rightly and solely in the woman’s hands.


But the effect of having an unwanted child is a men’s issue, too. I know this because, whatever we call those guys, I am one of them……

Would those two pregnancies, had they come to term — had actual babies been born — have affected those women more than me? Possibly destroyed their lives and dreams in ways I can’t imagine?

Absolutely so. But would I have been unaffected?


Absolutely not.


I cannot fathom how fathers of girls, fathers who supported the Dobbs decision, can ignore its ramifications for their own daughters. But so much of this discussion has ignored the fathers of boys.

Boys and their fathers have to become part of the fight. Because when I imagine my child getting someone pregnant at this young age — their future just beginning to gestate, but certainly viable — it terrifies me…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/07/01/father-abortion-decision-menstrual-extraction/