Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (1 Viewer)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[samiam5211]

It won’t take years. And the defects that result in late abortions are generally incompatible with life. Not going to result in an increase in birth defects in reality.

I suspect that even things like downs syndrome are less common than they would be without access to abortion.

 

[Optimus Prime]

So the new abortion restrictions are going to result in an increase in births with genetic defects, because many of those pregnancies would have been terminated in the past.

How much you want to bet in a few years, people will be blaming the covid vaccines for a rise in genetic defects?

I didn’t even think about that

 

[MT15]

So, they are just coming out and admitting it now. Basically if a woman gets pregnant, she no longer has any control over her own body. She is now a brood mare for the state.

 

[zztop]

^ and not only that but severe punishment for doctors. This whole thing republicans are doing is just so forked up

Doctors who violate it would lose their license and face potential civil lawsuits, felony charges, a fine of up to $10,000 and two years in jail.

 

[DaveXA]

^ and not only that but severe punishment for doctors. This whole thing republicans are doing is just so forked up

Doctors who violate it would lose their license and face potential civil lawsuits, felony charges, a fine of up to $10,000 and two years in jail.

Yeah. We're well on our way to a fascist state the way things are going at this point. And Republicans have no one to blame but themselves.

 

[MT15]

Yeah. We're well on our way to a fascist state the way things are going at this point. And Republicans have no one to blame but themselves.

They’re pushing for it, Dave. The R party is no longer a conservative party but rather an authoritative party looking for power to impose its will and do away with our democracy or representative republic if you like that term better. They won’t blame themselves, it’s what they want.

 

[MT15]

Overturning no fault divorce is just the next step in making women into property again.

 

[MT15]

I’m putting this here because making abortion illegal is just a step toward controlling women. It’s a very toxic path that some evangelicals are on.

 

[zztop]

Republican Nevada governor signs abortion protections legislation

Nevada Gov. Joe Lombardo on Tuesday became one of the first Republican governors to sign a bill protecting access to abortion for out-of-state patients and in-state providers. Lombardo, who …

thehill.com

Two Republican women also joined Democratic state lawmakers in voting for the bill, a move that the Nevada GOP said it was “horrified” by. Earlier this month, the Democratic-led state Legislature also advanced a resolution that would codify abortion rights up to 24 weeks in the state constitution, the AP reported.

He joins only a handful of other Republicans who have signed legislation protecting abortion access, including Vermont Gov. Phil Scott and former Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker, according to an AP analysis.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Republicans blundered in last year’s midterms by trying to skirt the issue of abortion. Democrats outperformed expectations and bucked historical trends by spending hundreds of millions of dollars on advertisementsattacking the GOP for revoking reproductive rights.

Republicans mostly tried to change the subject, pivoting to inflation and crime while spending almost nothing on abortion-focused commercials.

Letting an effective line of attack go unanswered constitutes political malpractice. Post-election polling conducted for Heritage Action showed independents trusted Democrats more than Republicans on abortion by a 25-point margin.

A Republican National Committee autopsy of what went wrong in 2022 concluded that the party “underestimated the impact” of the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade and recommended that candidates talk more about abortion in future elections so they don’t get defined by the opposition. But RNC leaders decided in April to keep the draft report secret.

Ignoring these lessons, many of the leading Republican candidates for president in 2024 are choosing to be vague about whether and when they think abortion should be illegal under federal law.

They’re strategically ambiguous on how they interpret laws on the books and to what extent they would try to exert influence over the Food and Drug Administration.

They are also aiming to appeal to social conservatives, by winking publicly and promising privately, without alienating major donors and independents.

Our view is that all voters, in the primaries and in the general election, deserve clarity on an issue so consistently contentious yet suddenly unsettled. Here are seven questions anyone who wants to be president should be able to answer:


1. Do you support federal restrictions on abortion?
Donald Trump, who nominated three of the justices who struck down Roe, has suggested that this is now a “state’s rights” issue, but as president he supported federal legislation to ban abortions after 20 weeks, and he hasn’t ruled out signing something that goes further if he regains power.

Meanwhile, former New Jersey governor Chris Christie says: “The states, not the federal government, should be making these decisions.” Businessman Vivek Ramaswamycalls abortion murder and supports six-week bans at the state level but says “the federal government should be out of this.”

Others, such as former vice president Mike Pence, are outspoken about the need for a federal role. And the Republican Party platform still calls for a personhood amendment to the Constitution that could ban abortion from the moment of conception……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/07/abortion-republicans-2024-questions/

 

[MT15]

These laws are insane:

 

[Optimus Prime]

The Ohio Supreme Court on Monday ordered state officials to rewrite some of the language for an August ballot measure that, if passed, would make it more difficult to amend the state constitution.


The debate over the measure has become a proxy battle in recent months between Ohio Republicans, who hold a supermajority in the state legislature, and Democrats who have argued that it is an attempt to quash voter efforts to enshrine abortion rights into state law after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.


The measure, known as State Issue 1, seeks to raise the threshold required to amend the state’s constitution through a ballot initiative to 60 percent of the vote. A ballot initiative now only has to pass with a simple majority.

The proposal also would impose more-stringent requirements on how signatures are gathered for ballot initiative campaigns……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/12/ohio-constitution-ballot-supreme-court/

 

[Optimus Prime]

An active duty US Marine was one of two men arrested in connection to the firebombing of a Planned Parenthood in Orange County, California, according to the Department of Justice.

Tibet Ergul, 21, of Irvine and Chance Brannon, 23, of San Juan Capistrano — who is currently a Marine stationed at Camp Pendleton — were arrested Wednesday morning, according to the DOJ.

Both men have been accused of using an explosive or fire to damage property affecting interstate commerce.…..

Marine among two arrested for Planned Parenthood fire

The FBI previously offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to the identification, arrest, and conviction of the alleged arsonists

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Optimus Prime]

Google has made millions of dollars in the last two years from advertisements misdirecting users who were seeking abortion services to “pregnancy crisis centers” that do not actually provide care, according to a new study.

The tech giant has taken in an estimated $10m in two years from anti-choice organizations that pay to advertise such centers alongside legitimate results on the Google search page, according to a new report from the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), a nonprofit group that conducts misinformation research. Its study, published on Thursday, estimates that the search results have reached and potentially misled hundreds of thousands of users……

Crisis pregnancy centers have been defined by the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecologists as facilities that “operate unethically”, representing themselves as legitimate reproductive healthcare clinics while actually seeking to dissuade people from accessing abortion healthcare. They outnumber actual abortion clinics three to one in the US, with approximately 2,600 operating nationwide.….

Google Search is a leading source of information on abortion, with Americans making an estimated 102m searches for queries related to abortion each year. Google Search is now the top source of referrals to crisis pregnancy clinics, the study found by reviewing client intake data from a top anti-abortion marketing firm, surpassing word of mouth for means of getting pregnant people in the door.

The CCDH study showed such clinics pay for advertisements to appear in Google Search results related to more than 15,000 different queries about abortion, including “abortion clinic near me”, “abortion pill”, “abortion clinic” and “planned parenthood”. Further, 71% of clinics identified in the study used deceptive means of advertising, advancing false claims that abortions are linked to cancer and other diseases……

Google earned $10m from ads misdirecting abortion seekers to ‘pregnancy crisis centers’

A study finds the search giant has profited since Roe was overturned from anti-abortion groups buying misleading search terms

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

An active duty US Marine was one of two men arrested in connection to the firebombing of a Planned Parenthood in Orange County, California, according to the Department of Justice.

Tibet Ergul, 21, of Irvine and Chance Brannon, 23, of San Juan Capistrano — who is currently a Marine stationed at Camp Pendleton — were arrested Wednesday morning, according to the DOJ.

Both men have been accused of using an explosive or fire to damage property affecting interstate commerce.…..

Marine among two arrested for Planned Parenthood fire

The FBI previously offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to the identification, arrest, and conviction of the alleged arsonists

www.independent.co.uk

he should be locked up in a Miltary prison for the rest of his life

 

[MT15]

he should be locked up in a Miltary prison for the rest of his life

What will his consequences be in reality though? I read about a couple of active military just arrested for Jan 6, and the military wouldn’t say what would happen to them.

 

[Optimus Prime]

99.9% chance anyone who usings the term "so-called consensus" is batshirt crazy
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A small group of conservative doctors has sought to shape the nation’s most contentious policies on abortion and transgender rights by promoting views rejected by the medical establishment as scientific fact, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post that describe the group’s internal strategies.

The records show that after long struggling to attract members, the American College of Pediatricians gained outsize political influence in recent years, primarily by using conservative media as a megaphone in its quest to position the group as a reputable source of information.

The organization has successfully lobbied since 2021 for laws in more than a half-dozen states that ban gender-affirming care for transgender youths, with its representatives testifying before state legislatures against the guidelines recommended by mainstream medical groups, according to its records. It gained further national prominence this year as one of the plaintiffs in the federal lawsuit to limit access to mifepristone, a key abortion drug.

Despite efforts to invoke the credibility of the medical profession, the American College of Pediatricians is viewed with skepticism by the medical establishment. For years, the group has presented statistics and talking points to state legislators, public school officials and the American public as settled science while internal documents emphasize how religion and morality influence its positions. Meeting minutes from 2021 describe how the organization worked with religious groups to “affect the idea makers through the high courts, professional literature, and legislatures.”

It promotes conversion therapy, a discredited practice intended to change the sexual orientation or gender identity of LGBTQ people that most medical societies warn can result in harm. Pediatric experts deemed a June 2022 report crafted by the group that undergirds a new Florida policy banning transgender care for Medicaid recipients as “unscientific.” Francis Collins, former longtime director of the National Institutes of Health, accused the group in 2010 of distorting his research to “make a point against homosexuality.”

Jill Simons, executive director of the American College of Pediatricians, disputed criticism that her organization promotes policies that do not follow science. “Our recommendations are based on the medical research and what is best for children,” she said.

Her organization exists to represent “all the good pediatricians out there who agree with us who maybe are afraid to step forward,” Simons, a Minneapolis pediatrician, said in an interview with The Post. “Very smart people in the field of medicine have disagreed with a lot of these so-called consensus that is out there.”

Sam Wineburg, a Stanford University psychologist who studies online disinformation, highlights the American College of Pediatricians in his research as an example of a group that uses its name and scientific jargon to convey authority.

“It looks like an official medical organization, and you’re easily duped into thinking that this is the umbrella organization for pediatricians in the United States,” Wineburg said, noting the group has “all of the superficial bells and whistles of credibility.”...............

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/06/15/abortion-transgender-christian-doctors/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3a4fafe%2F648b342c2e7a825a07a1324e%2F5a0cb1ffade4e230f7038273%2F8%2F72%2F648b342c2e7a825a07a1324e

 

[zztop]

^ about the woman turncoat that switched parties and forked over all the people of NC who vote for her

Angry Ex-Staffers Speak Out on 'Pro-Choice' Democrat's Stunning Abortion Betrayal

“I wish I could say that she took a giant bag of cash at an IHOP and that’s why she did this—but it’s so much dumber than that,” her former aide told Jezebel.

jezebel.com

an ex staffer apparently said her decision to switch sides was all because of pettiness

more on this traitor

North Carolina's Party-Switching Abortion Traitor Now Says She Didn't Have an Abortion

State Rep. Tricia Cotham (R) is trying to rewrite history after leaving the Democratic Party to give the GOP a veto-proof majority on a 12-week abortion ban.

jezebel.com

Back in 2015, when Cotham spoke on the House floor about her medically necessary abortion for an ectopic pregnancy, she used very different language. Cotham said it was an “induced, physician-assisted miscarriage”—which is an abortion. (She also mentions “chemotherapy,” which suggests she was given the cancer drug methotrexate, to end the pregnancy.)