Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (1 Viewer)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[Farb]

I forget.

I am sure we were having a lovely time though and it was a good debate! LOL. Cheers my friend.

 

[Farb]

The horrible and terrible parts already occurred: Christian empires forcing conquered peoples into their religion and appropriating their practices in the process.

Here in my home State, at least we took the name back of our day of the dead, hanal pixan. Unfortunately the actual date has been lost in time.


Of course you can dismiss any faith you don't agree with, but that wasn't the point; the point is, religious faith is religious faith, no matter the religion, whether you have faith in Jesus, Allah, or the Leshen.

Besides the Romans and maybe the Mongols (at first), I think that was pretty universal as far as Empires go. If I were alive during the golden age of Spain and knowing what I know I now, I would be against the the way the handling of native religions played out, but again, I am not a fan of presentism.

Yes, humans have religious faith in a lot things. The sun, politicians, some even have a religious faith in not having a religious faith. I can respect the ones I would like to respect and loath the ones that are counter to my desired faith.

 

[SystemShock]

some even have a religious faith in not having a religious faith.

No one has religious faith in not having a religious faith.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

What are the protected classes?

A protected class is "a set or category of things having some property or attribute in common and differentiated from others by kind, type, or quality" (class) that is "preserved from harm, especially by means of formal or legal measures" (protected).

Anything else?

 

[MT15]

The sun, politicians, some even have a religious faith in not having a religious faith.

it doesn’t matter how many times you say this, it’s not true. You only say it to try to level the playing field. It doesn’t work.

Atheism and especially agnosticism are not faith-based. They are fact and evidence based. They are the opposite of religious faith. Your argument is simply gibberish on this matter.

 

[Farb]

No one has religious faith in not having a religious faith.

Do you consider the worship of self to be a religious?

 

[Farb]

A protected class is "a set or category of things having some property or attribute in common and differentiated from others by kind, type, or quality" (class) that is "preserved from harm, especially by means of formal or legal measures" (protected).

Anything else?

Yes.
Do you think that is holds up the constitution, especially the 'men are created equal'? Would not every citizen be considered a protected class to the face of the government?

What is the standard to elevate one class/race/sex/fetish about another?

 

[Farb]

it doesn’t matter how many times you say this, it’s not true. You only say it to try to level the playing field. It doesn’t work.

Atheism and especially agnosticism are not faith-based. They are fact and evidence based. They are the opposite of religious faith. Your argument is simply gibberish on this matter.

Just because you don't like something, doesnt make it not true. I think we have learned that.

 

[SystemShock]

Do you consider the worship of self to be a religious?

Worship of self? What does that entail? How do you define that? Just being conceited?

 

[coldseat]

Yes.
Do you think that is holds up the constitution, especially the 'men are created equal'? Would not every citizen be considered a protected class to the face of the government?

What is the standard to elevate one class/race/sex/fetish about another?

Why do you keep asking these same inane questions over and over.

The standard is simple. Those "protected classes" have been discriminated against so much in this country throughout it's history, that they require special protections in law so that they can enjoy the same freedoms everybody else enjoys without any protections.

This didn't just originate out of thin air to oppress poor white men. There's a whole 250 year history behind it.

 

[coldseat]

Worship of self? What does that entail? How do you define that? Just being conceited?

Anybody that doesn't worship "God" must, by default, worship themselves. Or so the christian thinking goes.

 

[Saintamaniac]

No one has religious faith in not having a religious faith.

It almost looks like a crap against the wall approach at this point.

Would not every citizen be considered a protected class to the face of the government?

You do understand that protected classes were created because white so-called Christians kept finding ways to use their religious beliefs as justification to discriminate against people based on their religion, their race, and their sex. Even now, you refuse to allow people to have their own religious beliefs and freely practice those religious beliefs because they differ from your own.

 

[DaveXA]

Anybody that doesn't worship "God" must, by default, worship themselves. Or so the christian thinking goes.

Not really. Most Christians haven't really given that much thought. They really don't spend much time talking about what defines faith in those terms. At least that's been my many years of experience.

 

[MT15]

Just because you don't like something, doesnt make it not true. I think we have learned that.

Self-awareness, you have none. You have never shown how an being an atheist or an agnostic is faith-based. You’ve never even tried. You just spew crap over and over saying the same things, and pretend they are true. Which is itself a propaganda technique.

 

[SystemShock]

Anybody that doesn't worship "God" must, by default, worship themselves.

... and therefore, I am God!

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Yes.
Do you think that is holds up the constitution, especially the 'men are created equal'? Would not every citizen be considered a protected class to the face of the government?

What is the standard to elevate one class/race/sex/fetish about another?

As coldseat said, it's about historical discrimination. Your "all men created equal" argument is clearly bullshirt, given the legality and prevalence of slavery when that was written.

Edit: I was clearly exhausted when I posted this because it's not like me to ignore the fact that you attributed "all men are created equal" to the Constitution, even though it is clearly in the Declaration of Independence.

 

[J-DONK]

Yes.
Do you think that is holds up the constitution, especially the 'men are created equal'? Would not every citizen be considered a protected class to the face of the government?

What is the standard to elevate one class/race/sex/fetish about another?

Farb just google stuff my man. The standard is legislation passed by Congress.

Protected group - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Booker]

... and therefore, I am God!