SHOULD Biden run for a 2nd term? (4 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Biden has lost support from many people who voted for him in the past.
He is getting up there in age.
Here are a couple of sites I'd like to share...
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Octogenarian Biden begins new year facing age-old question on 2024 race

In the coming months, Biden faces a simple question: will he seek a second term at the end of which he would be 86?

www.theguardian.com

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Biden 2024? Most Democrats say no thank you: AP-NORC poll

A majority of Democrats now think one term is plenty for President Joe Biden, despite his insistence that he plans to seek reelection in 2024. While Biden has trumpeted his legislative victories and ability to govern, the poll suggests relatively few U.S. adults give him high marks on either...

news.yahoo.com

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WHAT DO ANY OF YOU THINK?
IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BEST SERVED BY HAVING PRESIDENT BIDEN RUN FOR ANOTHER TERM OR WOULD A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE BE BETTER?

 

[SamAndreas]

Marst is one of the last remaining polling houses from ole yester years whom I respected in the past, and still respect within the margin of error now.

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/18/g-s1-11999/donald-trump-kamala-harris-poll-election-2024

 

[SamAndreas]

No he shouldn’t run. The intense demands of the job are grinding him down. At 81 it will only accelerate. There is a solid bench. I like governor. Just to name a few. Beshear, Shapiro, Whitmer, Polis, Walz top my list. Open the floor at the convention.

What about Kamala Harris? I don't see her name there.

 

[Sendai]

What about Kamala Harris? I don't see her name there.

Not a fan.

 

[Greg]

What about Kamala Harris? I don't see her name there.

She’s the only option. She’s the only one who can use his campaign funds. Are you really going to have a floor fight in August, then try to get a new candidate on all of the ballots for a November election? You have to start that process now. I expect legal challenges.

 

[Sendai]

She’s the only option. She’s the only one who can use his campaign funds. Are you really going to have a floor fight in August, then try to get a new candidate on all of the ballots for a November election? You have to start that process now. I expect legal challenges.

Refund the campaign funds and the donors can simply direct the money to the new candidate. Plus new candidate means new money. The democratic nominee will be on all ballots. There’s plenty of time.

 

[Greg]

Refund the campaign funds and the donors can simply direct the money to the new candidate. Plus new candidate means new money. The democratic nominee will be on all ballots. There’s plenty of time.

Can you do that? I’ve never heard of political contributions being refunded.

New money when? In September? For a November 5th election….thats too late to start a campaign with a candidate most of the country probably doesn’t know imo.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

The Dems messed this all the hell up. They had an incumbent and somehow ended up having the challenger run virtually unapposed.

We deserve exactly this...from not pushing RBG to retirement to the mishandling of the Bernie bros to whatever the * this is.

Dems suck

 

[bdb13]

I think the governor of Kentucky, whose name I don't even know LOL - would potentially have a good chance at winning if this was a normal situation.. name recognition in a situation like this seems like a problem but it's not like everyone wouldn't find out over the next 3 and 1/2 months or so, so I dunno... but yeah, seems like it probably defaults to Kamala at this point.

 

[FullMonte]

She’s the only option. She’s the only one who can use his campaign funds. Are you really going to have a floor fight in August, then try to get a new candidate on all of the ballots for a November election? You have to start that process now. I expect legal challenges.

So, I was wondering about this...because my mind has a tendency to try to figure out ways to do things that the rules prohibit while not breaking the rules as they are written.

As I understand it, if Kamala is not on the ticket, then they cannot use the campaign funds that have been donated so far. But.... If Biden drops out, and Kamala becomes the presidential nominee, and she selects, say, Gavin Newsome as her vice presidential nominee. At that point, the new ticket can use all of the campaign funds. But, is that the new "official" ticket? If Kamala were to drop out, and Newsome were to become the new presidential nominee, could he and his VP selection then access all of the funds?

 

[Greg]

As I understand it, if Kamala is not on the ticket, then they cannot use the campaign funds that have been donated so far. But.... If Biden drops out, and Kamala becomes the presidential nominee, and she selects, say, Gavin Newsome as her vice presidential nominee. At that point, the new ticket can use all of the campaign funds. But, is that the new "official" ticket? If Kamala were to drop out, and Newsome were to become the new presidential nominee, could he and his VP selection then access all of the funds?

I wouldn’t think so because he wasn’t on the ticket when the funds were raised. But that would never happen. She wants this. She’s not going to take it and then just give it away.

 

[SamAndreas]

Intresting:

On a Tuesday in early July, 75 wealthy Democratic political donors gathered on a Zoom call to discuss the path forward for President Joe Biden after his calamitous debate performance against Donald Trump, according to a person on the call.
Only one of the donors said they thought Biden should stay in the race, this person said. All the others made it very clear that they believed Biden needed to drop out of the race, if the party wanted to defeat Trump in November. People who spoke to CNBC for this story were granted anonymity to speak freely about a sensitive matter.

Since then, big money donors who fund either the Biden campaign, his allied political action committees or the party at large have launched a lobbying campaign aimed at senior Democrats in both the House and Senate.
Their goal is to convince lawmakers to publicly call on Biden to end his reelection campaign, according to over half a dozen people familiar with the matter.
Many of these donors laid their positions out in stark terms: If Biden refused to drop out, they would not be giving money to help his reelection until polls showed that he was a clear favorite to beat Trump.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/18/democratic-donors-biden-drop-out-kamala-harris.html

So that's what's been pushing the leadership, but not the rank and file of the members. I've noticed that during the last several days that it's only been the leadership being talked about this in the news.

I would think it some non-ranking member were to say something unsupportive about Biden, the news frenzy would have added in, I haven't seen it, not one Congressional small fry has added themself to that list PBS quit updating. Why not?



The big money bags have issued stark terms,

If they succeed, it will have the look of it being a predetermined by the Billionaire oligarchs kind of election, in other words fake.

It would mean that the overlords have obtained the power. Have overthrown both parties at the same time. What we're being warned about will have already happened.

So ... .



There's another possibility that this flap is proceeding splendidly under Biden's guidance to scare the living stuff out of our voters, to insure they get out and vote.

The only way that would work would be for poor old beleaguered Biden to either fight them tooth and nail for himself or Harris, and win, then one or both would run against the establishment, and media, a populists.

Or, that could all happen without it having been orchestrated by Biden / Harris. Which would mean it wouldn't smell at all.

Not that I would mind that smell if Biden and Harris are roping-the-dope insofar as the media. The media acted like a mindless swarm of wasps today, they deserve whatever Biden / Harris decides to do to deal with them as far as I'm concerned.

 

[FullMonte]

I wouldn’t think so because he wasn’t on the ticket when the funds were raised. But that would never happen. She wants this. She’s not going to take it and then just give it away.

Oh, I wasn't saying I think it would happen, it was more of a hypothetical of "could you get around that rule this way?"

 

[SamAndreas]

Not a fan.

Then I don't have regard for your stated position. Moot as far as I'm concerned.

 

[SamAndreas]

So, I was wondering about this...because my mind has a tendency to try to figure out ways to do things that the rules prohibit while not breaking the rules as they are written.

As I understand it, if Kamala is not on the ticket, then they cannot use the campaign funds that have been donated so far. But.... If Biden drops out, and Kamala becomes the presidential nominee, and she selects, say, Gavin Newsome as her vice presidential nominee. At that point, the new ticket can use all of the campaign funds. But, is that the new "official" ticket? If Kamala were to drop out, and Newsome were to become the new presidential nominee, could he and his VP selection then access all of the funds?

What on earth. Gavin Newsom cannot run against the Criminal, he's compromised, his ex wife who would know where his dirt is, is in the enemy camp sleeping with Don Jr.

Newsome is ruled out by that, an impossibility. He's not even trying to run, so please don't try to draft him.

Let's keep Biden / Harris instead.

 

[Greg]

What on earth. Gavin Newsom cannot run against the Criminal, he's compromised, his ex wife who would know where his dirt is, is in the enemy camp sleeping with Don Jr.

Newsome is ruled out by that, an impossibility. He's not even trying to run, so please don't try to draft him.

Let's keep Biden / Harris instead.

He wants to run. You think he’s been doing all this campaigning for Biden? He’s about to fight to be the alternative to Kamala.

One of the things his ex let be known a long time ago…before he was even governor…is that he wanted to be president.

 

[CoolBrees]

I think we are past caring about someone's sex life when convicted of paying off porn star doesn't sink you.

 

[SamAndreas]

He wants to run. You think he’s been doing all this campaigning for Biden? He’s about to fight to be the alternative to Kamala.

One of the things his ex let be known a long time ago…before he was even governor…is that he wanted to be president.

Greg, the gaslight you're using reeks of Sulfur.

Deodorized gas is available. Perfumed gas is even available.

 

[SamAndreas]

I think we are past caring about someone's sex life when convicted of paying off porn star doesn't sink you.

I said dirt, I didn't say sex life.