SHOULD Biden run for a 2nd term? (2 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Biden has lost support from many people who voted for him in the past.
He is getting up there in age.
Here are a couple of sites I'd like to share...
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Octogenarian Biden begins new year facing age-old question on 2024 race

In the coming months, Biden faces a simple question: will he seek a second term at the end of which he would be 86?

www.theguardian.com

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Biden 2024? Most Democrats say no thank you: AP-NORC poll

A majority of Democrats now think one term is plenty for President Joe Biden, despite his insistence that he plans to seek reelection in 2024. While Biden has trumpeted his legislative victories and ability to govern, the poll suggests relatively few U.S. adults give him high marks on either...

news.yahoo.com

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WHAT DO ANY OF YOU THINK?
IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BEST SERVED BY HAVING PRESIDENT BIDEN RUN FOR ANOTHER TERM OR WOULD A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE BE BETTER?

 

[LA - L.A.]

Since Trump will 100% be the Republican nominee, things look grim for you third party voters, too.

Or did you forget you’re a loser if he wins, too?

Yeah I saw that Freudian slip too.

The poster's been repeatedly claiming for months he doesn't want Trump to win, because Trump's so terrible. Then he gloats about how Trump would win the election today which would be "grim for Dems."

If he's been sincere about how terrible he thinks Trump is, then wouldn't it be grim for everyone? I think he's just like Sununu, not to be confused with snu-snu. The poster talks about how he wants anyone but Trump to be the nominee due to how bad Trump is, but the truth seems to be that he'll vote for Trump if he's the nominee.

The poster seems like another Republican that's more concerned about the Republican winning, even if Trump is that Republican.

The Republicans need to resoundingly lose in the 2024 election. They are an anti-democracy party these days.

 

[MT15]

Why do you think he's not qualified?

What little I have seen of him, he’s just another huge ego backed by his own money. Thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. Pals around with Musk and that Bill Ackman idiot. Birds of a feather.

I believe he even said he thought Musk should be in his Cabinet, and then had to lamely say he was joking.

 

[LA - L.A.]

What little I have seen of him, he’s just another huge ego backed by his own money. Thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. Pals around with Musk and that Bill Ackman idiot. Birds of a feather.

I believe he even said he thought Musk should be in his Cabinet, and then had to lamely say he was joking.

Running a for profit company and being President require two different mindsets and value systems that are antithetical to each other. There are overlapping traits and aptitudes, but we don't need for profit CEO's as presidents.

 

[SystemShock]

What little I have seen of him, he’s just another huge ego backed by his own money.

So? Is that a problem in on itself?

Thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room.

So? Does the President of the U.S. needs to be humble? Play dumb?

Pals around with Musk and that Bill Ackman idiot. Birds of a feather.

I believe he even said he thought Musk should be in his Cabinet, and then had to lamely say he was joking.

Well, there was a time when people thought Musk was Tony Stark incarnated, until he showed his true colors.

This is why you think he's not qualified?

I did a quick search and 538 stated his voting record in Congress has been 100% for Biden initiatives.

 

[zztop]

Since Trump will 100% be the Republican nominee, things look grim for you third party voters, too.

Or did you forget you’re a loser if he wins, too?

Don't discount republicans. Remember that time they elected a dead guy?

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1NC1YQ/

 

[MT15]

So? Is that a problem in on itself?

So? Does the President of the U.S. needs to be humble? Play dumb?


Well, there was a time when people thought Musk was Tony Stark incarnated, until he showed his true colors.

This is why you think he's not qualified?

I did a quick search and 538 stated his voting record in Congress has been 100% for Biden initiatives.

Yes, all of these attributes are problems when you have such a paucity of experience in a field, and an outsized opinion of your expertise. He’s basically Trump, but not stupid and racist. And naming Musk as a likely Cabinet member doesn‘t speak well for his judgement. He said this recently, not before Musk showed himself.

yes, there’s no daylight policy-wise according to his voting record, but he has zero foreign policy experience and that’s important at this point in time, plus his words on the campaign trail have called his judgement into question, IMO.

 

[SystemShock]

Yes, all of these attributes are problems when you have such a paucity of experience in a field, and an outsized opinion of your expertise. He’s basically Trump, but not stupid and racist. And naming Musk as a likely Cabinet member doesn‘t speak well for his judgement. He said this recently, not before Musk showed himself.

So, seriously, do you think a U.S. president needs to be humble and play dumb?
You don't think Bill Clinton has an ego? Obama? Did they ever play dumb?

 

[SystemShock]

Running a for profit company and being President require two different mindsets and value systems that are antithetical to each other. There are overlapping traits and aptitudes, but we don't need for profit CEO's as presidents.

Why would they be antithetical? And why are you singling out for profit CEO's? For-profit and non-profit CEO's aren't different: the former run companies that pay out dividends, the latter put any money they make back into the business, but they both still have to make money; and a government has to make money too. The U.S. government has its shareholders and customers in the citizens, a board of directors in Congress, and it needs to make money to keep the corporation going, and balance its budget. It has products as well (healthcare, infrastructure, etc.).

 

[SFIDC3]

I see. I think Biden would lose to Trump also. Haley would beat Biden too. Things look grim for you Dems

C'mon Steve, go ahead and predict that great "red wave" again....it worked so well the first time.....

Oh, and it's just so rich that you think it looks so bleak for the Dems, meanwhile, your own dumpster fire of a party will almost surely nominate that guy you claim you can't stand, unless he is incarcerated first.....

Have a great day!!!!

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Haley fares best against Biden as Republican contenders hold national leads

More still think their financial situation would be better under Trump than Biden.

www.cbsnews.com

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Nikki Haley touts 17-point polling edge over Joe Biden. Here’s what more recent polls say.

Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley makes a repeated argument that she has a stronger general election argument that other Republican presidential...

www.dallasnews.com

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Nikki Haley would beat Joe Biden in a landslide, polling shows

Despite Haley’s theoretical strength against the presumptive Democratic nominee, she has a long road ahead of her if she hopes to unseat the 45th President from his perch atop the Republican party.…

www.bostonherald.com

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https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/gop-republican-debate-iowa/card/behind-haley-s-17-point-lead-over-biden-in-wsj-polling-qByTNcx5uHOCTq443PVW

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https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article283440228.html

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Nikki Haley would beat Joe Biden in a landslide, polling shows

Despite Haley’s theoretical strength against the presumptive Democratic nominee, she has a long road ahead of her if she hopes to unseat the 45th President from his perch atop the Republican party.…

www.courant.com

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@MT15 said I must be kidding her. Surely these links show that my statement about the internet evidence was based on reality...a reality I am surprised she was unaware of.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

C'mon Steve, go ahead and predict that great "red wave" again....it worked so well the first time.....

Oh, and it's just so rich that you think it looks so bleak for the Dems, meanwhile, your own dumpster fire of a party will almost surely nominate that guy you claim you can't stand, unless he is incarcerated first.....

Have a great day!!!!

It would be more accurate if I said it looks grim for the Democrats to have Biden in the White House for another term.
Yet it also seems likely that Dem voters will be motivated by their desire for abortion choice and Dems may control BOTH Houses of Congress.
If Trump is President we will have 4 years of gridlock and then the future looks grim for ALL of America regardless of their political affiliation.
I sure hope neither Trump or Biden is President.
Go Nikki!!!

 

[LA - L.A.]

Why would they be antithetical? And why are you singling out for profit CEO's? For-profit and non-profit CEO's aren't different...

Yes, they are very different types of individuals. The difference is more in the mindset and values of the individual, than it is with the skills or on task experiences with the individuals. CEO's who work for legitimate non-profits are more "other serving" individuals. CEO's who work for for-profit companies are more "self-serving" individuals. Legitimate democratic governments are run to be "other serving" not "self serving."

Repeating what I said in a another thread on the same subject:

If someone wants an executive C Suite type individual as president, then it should be an individual with executive C Suite experience exclusively within legitimate non-profit organizations.

They understand how to run things to serve and improve the lives of as many people as possible, as opposed to maximizing revenue and minimizing expenses to give the net profits to an exclusive and small group of people. That's the exact opposite of how to run a democratic government.

By the way, fascism historically has always been born out of, supported and maintained by the for profit private sector. Fascism and corporatism have historically always been joined at the hip. It's not a coincidence, it's the goal.

 

[brandon]

Haley fares best against Biden as Republican contenders hold national leads

More still think their financial situation would be better under Trump than Biden.

www.cbsnews.com

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Nikki Haley touts 17-point polling edge over Joe Biden. Here’s what more recent polls say.

Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley makes a repeated argument that she has a stronger general election argument that other Republican presidential...

www.dallasnews.com

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Nikki Haley would beat Joe Biden in a landslide, polling shows

Despite Haley’s theoretical strength against the presumptive Democratic nominee, she has a long road ahead of her if she hopes to unseat the 45th President from his perch atop the Republican party.…

www.bostonherald.com

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https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/gop-republican-debate-iowa/card/behind-haley-s-17-point-lead-over-biden-in-wsj-polling-qByTNcx5uHOCTq443PVW

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https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article283440228.html

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Nikki Haley would beat Joe Biden in a landslide, polling shows

Despite Haley’s theoretical strength against the presumptive Democratic nominee, she has a long road ahead of her if she hopes to unseat the 45th President from his perch atop the Republican party.…

www.courant.com

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@MT15 said I must be kidding her. Surely these links show that my statement about the internet evidence was based on reality...a reality I am surprised she was unaware of.

Look at all this wishful thinking.

 

[LA - L.A.]

So, seriously, do you think a U.S. president needs to be humble and play dumb?
You don't think Bill Clinton has an ego? Obama? Did they ever play dumb?

This is an irrational leap to make from the criticism that Dean Phillips "thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room."

1. A person doesn't have to play dumb to avoid arrogantly thinking they are always the smartest guy in the room.
2. Being humble is not the same as playing dumb.
3. Being humble does not require playing dumb.
4. The smarter someone thinks they are, the less smart they usually are, see https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/dunning-kruger-effect

Every president has advisors that are smarter than they are within their fields, that's the whole reason presidents have advisors. A president is only as effective as how smart their advisors are. The smartest president's seek out, hire and appoint advisors smarter than they are.

Bill Clinton and Obama understood and respected that. Trump didn't and that's why his administration was too incompetent to pull off most of the anti-democratic things they tried to do. Most CEO's who think they are always the smartest man in the room don't understand or respect having smarter advisors. All indications are that Dean Phillips doesn't understand or respect that either. He thinks he always knows better than everyone else.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Look at all this wishful thinking.

Look at the handful of people on madaboutpolitics who can't face the reality that America is not comfortable with Biden as he gets deeper into his 80s.
If only MAGAs cared about that and chose the most electable candidate in a GENERAL election.

 

[MT15]

So, seriously, do you think a U.S. president needs to be humble and play dumb?
You don't think Bill Clinton has an ego? Obama? Did they ever play dumb?

Those are your words not mine, why are you putting words in my mouth? Having an ego is just fine I never said it wasn’t. What I don’t like is having an ego where you think you know everything about areas other than what you actually do. So many rich guys think that because they managed to get rich in one area they know everything about everything. Musk is a great example, Trump is another.

 

[MT15]

Haley fares best against Biden as Republican contenders hold national leads

More still think their financial situation would be better under Trump than Biden.

www.cbsnews.com

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Nikki Haley touts 17-point polling edge over Joe Biden. Here’s what more recent polls say.

Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley makes a repeated argument that she has a stronger general election argument that other Republican presidential...

www.dallasnews.com

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Nikki Haley would beat Joe Biden in a landslide, polling shows

Despite Haley’s theoretical strength against the presumptive Democratic nominee, she has a long road ahead of her if she hopes to unseat the 45th President from his perch atop the Republican party.…

www.bostonherald.com

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https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/gop-republican-debate-iowa/card/behind-haley-s-17-point-lead-over-biden-in-wsj-polling-qByTNcx5uHOCTq443PVW

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https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article283440228.html

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Nikki Haley would beat Joe Biden in a landslide, polling shows

Despite Haley’s theoretical strength against the presumptive Democratic nominee, she has a long road ahead of her if she hopes to unseat the 45th President from his perch atop the Republican party.…

www.courant.com

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@MT15 said I must be kidding her. Surely these links show that my statement about the internet evidence was based on reality...a reality I am surprised she was unaware of.

No, I cannot believe you think of polls as “evidence” of a reality. They’re not. They’re more like an opinion of how something is likely to go, and without analyzing those polls you cannot trust them, especially these days.

Republicans have underperformed in nearly every single election, state and national, ever since 2016. Often in direct contrast to what the polls say. That is actual evidence my friend.

 

[Taurus]

So, seriously, do you think a U.S. president needs to be humble and play dumb?
You don't think Bill Clinton has an ego? Obama? Did they ever play dumb?

Dumb, no. Humble, yes.

Anyone with half a brain realizes how big the job is. How the responsibility ages you.